The dummy does it again
 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62217.html

Please people, come up with someone I can vote for. I don't know which is the dumbest, Michelle or Rick.

Really?
 

He is not all that bad:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...aign-trail.php

Bachmann is using tactics from the FREAKING MIDDLE AGES (and before). Use "God" to support your platform no matter WHAT happens.. Heck, maybe JUPITER and POSEIDON are mad that we've turned away from 'The Old Ways'! It's just as provable as Bachmann's claim.

Plong,

Don't worry about voting for Bachmann or Perry. The mainstream Republicans are not dumb enough to put up reactionaries like either of them for President or VP. They learned their lesson with Palin in 2008. A couple of sensible candidates will probably emerge - and if not - the country will elect President Obama again.

One of the wonderful things about living in this country is the fact that you don't have to believe as everyone else believes. Even in matters of faith. You can resort to childish name calling when our politicians give our Creator praise or acknowledge His hand in the guidance of our country.

I will be the first to defend your right to say these things, even if I don't agree, so long as you don't try to force your beliefs down the throats of others without going through the rule of law. I will also be the first to point out your hypocrisy.

Do you think President Obama is, in your words, a "dummy" for his words in his Presidential Proclamation--Thanksgiving Day November 23, 2010? In it, he offers thanks to God for the many blessing He has bestowed upon this great country from its inception until today, and asks that God continue to bless our nation.

Obama said, in part, "In confronting the challenges of our day, we must draw strength from the resolve of previous generations who faced their own struggles and take comfort in knowing a brighter day has always dawned on our great land. As we stand at the close of one year and look to the promise of the next, we lift up our hearts in gratitude to God for our many blessings, for one another, and for our Nation."

Now, using the same litmus test you use on Bachman and Perry, is Obama a dummy?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...anksgiving-day

Big difference between those statements and backman stating that GOD has now given two warning to Washington, the earthquake and the hurricane. That just show me what a lunatic she is.

GOD is a good thing, but if you hear it speak and give you guidance, then you are a lunitic.

People have been trying to decipher God's meaning and purpose since the beginning of recorded history. I grew up devout Roman Catholic and my priests and teachers have always speculated on God's role in our world. I was told my whole youth that the U.S. was destined to win the two world wars because "ours was a righteous cause" and "God was on our side". Should I now consider all those religious men "lunatics", as you say?

You absolutely should. I cant say here how I feel about Catholic priests. They knew they were just putting lies in the simple minds of the common man. They knew that we won because we had superior weapons and manpower. Please tell me you don't believe GOD moves solders around the battlefield like a chess game. That mentality was good for the old testament, but has been changed by the NEW one. The New Testament teaches love and kindness, but so many interpret it in ways that approves hate and condemnation. Oh well, what are ya gunna do?

They called Reagan all kinds of hateful things that you left-wing liberals are now spewing today. What's the matter, you guys frightened again because B Hussein Obama is the weakest President in history?

Bachmann's handlers are now saying her references about warnings from God were a joke. To me, that is even worse than if she had actually meant it .. you just don't joke about natural disasters that are causing injury and severe hardships to a large number of people.

Seems alot of people don't remember all the joking and hateful things that were said after Katrina.:cus:

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

People died from Irene. My God does not kill people to get the attention of politicians in Washington D.C.

I guess the self-proclaimed "wise and erudite" here would call Lincoln a "dummy" too.

"In his Second Inaugural Address, which would be his final address to the American people, Lincoln endowed the Civil War with sacred meaning, creating an American Scripture and articulating an American civil religion that still suffuses the idea of the nation with religious significance.

"Fondly do we hope -- fervently do we pray -- that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, ... as was said 3,000 years ago, so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'"

http://www.pbs.org/godinamerica/peop...m-lincoln.html

As I am not a particularly religious person, it still makes me wince when I see people putting down other people's faith. Seems that there is a war on Christianity where some faiths gets a free ride. I want to make it clear that I do not in any way condone the harsh things said about any religion.
There is tons of literature to back my belief that there is a war on Christianity.(Banning the display of ten commandments, crosses, prayer in school,even Christmas, to name a few)

Just got to use that middle name!!!!!

I have a feeling he is proud of his middle name; don't you?

So now you're insulting my religion, and the priests who mentored me. Very nice.

Anyone who thinks God has chosen the USA as his favorite place is mistaken.

[quote]Obama insisted on being sweared in as the President of the United States as Barack Hussein Obama. If there is a problem with that name I must insist that you contact his office.

Can you give me some links or proof of your statement? Can anybody prove it one way or the other? I don't think so.

I did not mean it to be an insult. You misunderstood me. I just stated an opinion about what you said they said about the big wars. You may have misunderstood what they were trying to tell you all them years ago or just don't remember it correctly. No insult given and none should be perceived. My point is and was that when politicians use natural disasters as gods wrath in the way M Bachmann did is either lunacy or satanic. Sorry if you disagree RL but the woman is a basket case. We need to work together and try to get a candidate that CAN WIN and that could HELP AMERICA. Bachmann is not it.

I do not think that this kind of name-calling is detrimental to civil discussion. Would it be allright for me to call Obama, satanic or a lunatic? He may be anti-American but he knows what he is doing.

What?

I said civil discourse does not involve calling people names like lunatic or satanic.

Whatever you may think of Michelle Bachmann, she is a far better candidate for the Presidency that the current President. She's not my first choice, but will get my vote if it's her against Obama.

It's not even a contest in my mind.

First I do think and was taught in school that God is a hands-off person hence we have free choice. God favors no one over another. As for Bachman being a better President than Obama is I beg to disagree and the votes will bear me out. She is far too radical for most American voters and says things that are just far out. $2.00 for gas?

OMG! You're kidding, right ??? The GOP might as well start preparing for 2016, if she'll be the choice in 2012...

Just saying.... She's certainly not my cup of tea :icon_wink:

Hummm. Richie, I might just stay home if its between them two. I just hope for one of the many qualified members of the GOP to step up and soon. I think a republican would do a better job with the economy; however, I fear if we go so far to the right with Bachmann or Perry we will end up with other social problems worse than the recession because of their non inclusive views. Rather I like it or not, we have every kind of nut in the tool chest in America and they will be like oil and water to anyone slightly different from their hard right beliefs. As long as we are a moderate country, we need moderate leaders.

Of course she would do a better job then B.Hussein Obama. Forrest Gump would be my vote if it was between him and B. Hussein.

Do you mean to imply that Obama is main stream? Given his past associations Ayers, Wright, et al. I am just saying......

I am not very religious but I do believe that the day America bars "God" from our way of life we are heading for our destruction. As for religion when balancing good vs bad religion tips on the side of good much more prominently. Keep in mind every institution has had bad actors, schools, muncipalities, military, law enforcement , etc. We shouldn't judge them all by the acts of a few. We should however demand that those few be dealt with severely for their breach of trust

Maybe you guys have convinced me.... $2.00 gas sounds pretty good.

Yup. That's me. The left-wing liberal who voted for Reagan TWICE (four times if you include the NH primaries - he was the first Presidential candidate I ever voted for when I came of age) and voted for Libertarians Harry Browne and Ron Paul.

For the humor-impaired, that's sarcasm.

Rubicon,

I said that Bachmann and Perry are not mainstream Republicans. I said that mainstream Republicans will hopefully find more middle of the road candidates than either Bachmann or Perry. American voters will not vote extremist candidates into office for President or VP. This was shown by voters rejecting Palin in 2008. No, I do not believe, nor do the American voters, believe that President Obama is an extremist. Yes, I do expect some remarks from a few posters on this forum regarding that - but what else could one expect from those few?

Looks like us Floridians might be standing in the way of progress on the energy front. I don't understand why we should object to drilling in the everglades or off the coast of Florida.

How else will we get our $2.00 gas prices...

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1032513.story

I don't get it . . .

:agree:

I am sorry that life has sent you down the wrong path, but it is not nice to make fun of people. Your humor is impaired.

After seeing this clip on television tonight, it is abundantly clear she said it in jest.......the audience's reaction tells it as well.

Once again, a few written quotes out of context made a feeding frenzy by the leftist crowd that hates Bachmann.

See:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiulmCotAcA[/ame]

Thank you.

Of course, Bachmann meant her ill-fated remark to be a joke. It was in very poor taste and never should have been said - but it was a joke.

Michelle Bachmann?; right now I'd vote for Charlie Sheen over Barack Obama? Who are we kidding here?