Obama's Army
 

This is scary stuff-can we say Obama's brown shirts?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGW136RLhSM&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak.

Read history. What happened to the "Brown Shirts" of Nazi Germany? Could it start in this country, yes, will it succeed, no. Why, it started a couple generations to soon. To many vets are still around that fought for this country and still believe in the Constitution.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/obamas-private-army/

I had to dilute this thread with facts, but do your homework, people, before believing anything you hear on Fox.

"Facts" represented by a decidedly "left wing" organization are suspect in themselves. I can present facts from a decidedly "right wing" organization. Will you change your mind because you read them? hmmmmmm.

The Annenberg Foundation is closely associated with radical arsonist and "former" home grown terrorist Bill Ayers (Obama's friend by the way).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2104053/posts

Thanks Richie, you beat me to the draw.:laugh:

If this was Dick Cheney proposing this, the liberal socialist would be foaming at the mouth and marching in the streets.

They are all a bunch of hypocrites. I would have a problem if ANY politician proposed this, but they would only have a problem if a non-liberal proposed it.

Did you bother to read the article? I did. This is basically a medical organization that has a military structure - related to the reason why the top doctor in the country is called the Surgeon GENERAL. They *do* work alongside the military on projects but strictly for medical procedures. The "Ready Reserve" would be akin to a "National guard" of medical professionals that could be called upon to help during natural disasters like Katrina.

Another website rated this as "Pants On Fire" it was so false. If you actually READ the documents that the guy on Fox references (and most people don't) they have NOTHING to do with what we would think of as a 'private army'. (They were commenting on Victoria Jackson's comments which basically repeated the claims made by the guy on Fox News).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-care-law-giv/

Oh, but if it on the enternet then it has to be true. Just like I won the Canadan Lotto last week. All I need to do is send them $250.00 processing fee and I will get millions of Canadan Dollars. Believe me the check IS NOT in the mail.

The Half Lie is one of the best propaganda techniques that has ever been used. FOX Noise is excellent at that. To prove it, look at the number of uber-conservatives who did not go any further than to look at a short clip and they become full time believers.

WOW...deep stuff this is. How many of those folks you call "uber conservatives" did not go any further ?

Other than DJPLONG...I count SIX posts on this thread that I suppose you have classified as "uber conservatives"......that is obviously an overwhelming number to deal with.

Lets keep that term "half lies" in mind as we post here from now on....I like that and may be quoting you !

I do not classify Nitaak as uber-conservative. She sounds quite reasonable in her postings.

Well then if she has passed your test then she is home free, isnt she ? You are the chief label maker on here !

What the heck is an UBER CONSERVATIVE anyway ? Sounds like a sound bit kind of term !

You'll have to pardon me, DJ, if I don't believe a word of the spin from the Obama Administration and the left-wing Annenberg supported site "Politifact". If this was a benign and laudable support organization the Administration would be holding it out for the world to see and even putting a picture frame around it to show everybody what a great thing this is, thereby shining a light on the greatness that is Barack Hussein Obama.

But, in fact, the 2 pages authorizing this "private civilian army" was buried in 2700+ pages of the never read but voted into law ObamaCare Bill. It was not discussed, not disclosed (another example of Obama's "transparency" he pledged), and is only now seeing the light of day; of course on Fox News because the left wing media has declared this a non-story.

First the private government security force known as the TSA, and now this. Do you really like where all this is going? Let's not be naive.

:agree:Power plays are always subtle. Recall the salami tactics used in Eastern Europe..slice by benign slice until the communiists had this poipulation by the throat. Bet they said it couldn't happen

R

I guess the bottom line here is: do you trust Pres. Obama?

B. Hussein Obama?

Yes, I do. I trust him a lot more than I ever trusted G. Walker Bush. Evidently, the American voters did not trust Republicans after G. Walker Bush.

I trust B. Hussein Obama to bring the United States economy to it's knees.

So, by the same token, if someone says it's on Fox News, it HAS to be true?

When the claims buy the guy on Fox were checked, they were found to be wild misinterpretations. If I wanted to be charitable, I could imagine how the guy could have easily made such a misinterpretation based on some of the text in that very thick document.

But then you get a 'celebrity' like Victoria Jackson repeating the misinterpretation as if it were gospel.

Well, when a democratic congress passes a bill that is thousands of pages and no one has read it, there could be all kinds of hidden or misunderstood provisions.

Remember Pelosi saying that we have to pass the bill so we could see what is in it. Hope and Change and a new transparency. My goodness!!!!!

Oh I know - it was definitely a sleeping pill on paper.

But when someone makes a claim and it is debunked, continuing to assert that claim is, basically, lying. It's like Jennifer McCarthy and her anti-vaccination crusade (based on a single study of only *16* kids that was proven to be completely fraudulent). It doesn't do someone's position any favors to base their opposition on myth. There are a lot more substantive things you can base an opposition to Obama's bill on (like it being corporate welfare for health insurance companies).

But DJ; if I reject the source of your "debunking"; that is my prerogative. If you want to take whatever is printed in PolitiFact as gospel; fine with me. I reject their content and so the premise of this post of yours is lost on me. I hope you understand what I am getting at here.

I think PolitiFact is spinning a lie for political purposes.

This is nothing. Americans should be more worried about the far-right's conservative christian army. They are a lot more violent and we all know violence AND b*tsh*t crazy can never lead to anything good.

Too late, dubya did THAT years a go.

What conservative christian army? A violent, crazy conservative christian army? What are you smoking?.

You have 5 posts. How did you get off the probation period so fast. I can see that political will be much better off.:ohdear:

What Obama army? Conservatives have never been clear on this... Is it a Communist army or a Muslim army?

Yes, it does sound far-fetched doesn't it? Ninety-nine of the tinfoil hat "anti-Obama" conspiracy theories sound just as ridiculous. I'm just sayin...

The only thing worth smoking.

Doesn't answer my question, but I already knew you didn't have one. Conspiracy theory? It's in the ObamaCare bill. I don't have to make things up.

Blah blah blah. People have opinions that are different than yours. You have yours and I have mine. Is that what gets you conservatives riled up? The fact people don't live the way you want just because you said so? What an elitist attitude. Please inform us as to how YOU are a better American or human than the rest of us. Don't hate bro because I chose not to drink the kool-aid.

What does my post count have to do with my opinion? Do you have to post a certain number of times before YOU present someone with their very own opinion? One approved by you and tailored to your beliefs? I'll have to pass on that non-refreshing beverage as well. :bigbow:

But thanks for the welcome!!!

Yes I did. I asked how the idea of a far right-wing god army is so insulting or "out there", yet the thought of a communist liberal muslim army is perfectly sane? What do you do all day? Do you sit around all day in fear that a homeless man is going to steal your stuff, a black man is going to mug you, a gay man is going to rape you, and cry because you think all Hispanics are here illegally and gonna get what's yours? What a very small cold world you must live in. I will have to pass on that as well.

I could never be a right-winger. There are waaaayyyyy to many joys in this life to discover to spend all my time hating and thinking of ways to hate those you hate even more. Wow.

Do I have enough posts now to have my very own adult opinion?!?!?!

Welcome. Hang on tight cuz it's quite a ride here with our ultra conservative friends slinging their "truths". :cus:

w

What's your problem? Where do you come up with all the crap that is in this post? Where have I iterated any of the vile rantings that your warped imagination came up with in this post? You have a serious problem fella.

Are you the example of the "new liberal" I keep hearing about.
____________________________________________

How about it all you TOTV liberals. Does this poster speak for you? He claims to be one of you.

Really Buggy?; Do you think he captured the essence with his vile posting?

I would ask all the loud folks on here calling folks names to count exactly how many of those evil bad nasty racist conservatives actually made a claim..PLEASE....the only one I see is the person who began the thread that I can tell.....quite a reaction !!

And guess should say welcome to Bobberton who now joins buggyone as reborn posters.....is that anything like those who say they are reborn and you mock ???

Richie,

I would not go so far as to call his posting "vile". Definitely way over the top and not indicative of people I associate with - either liberal or conservative - at the corner table of the neighborhood bar.

Bucco,

It seems as though whenever I posted an item, you always took the other side in a confrontational, non-typical Villager style.

I have now put you on my Ignore list. Great advice from ADMIN.

Now that makes me laugh....I mean, that is funny

If you ever posted on an issue you might find better responses....slamming people is not something I think is a good thing....you do, thus we dont agree