Republican Bashing Debate
 

It's 9:05 PM as I write this and it seems to me that the bashing of and incitement to provoke infighting is rampant by Brian Williams and the guy from Politico. It's especially hostile toward Gov. Perry. The attempt to get Perry and Romney to fight is interesting. They LOVE Huntsman it seems. He gets no contentious question and is handed a softball every time.

Richie, what channel is this on?

Why not questions on job creation specifics. The moderators are trying for too much "gotcha" questioning. I would like specifics solutions discussed. Or, am i missing something? Maybe they don't really want to hear "solutions". Might stir the listener in ways they don't want?

MSNBC...........bleh. Channel 56 on Comcast

I will not watch that station. I have it on my ignore list.;)

A little nostalgia
 

This is the only reason I would watch MSNBC. I'm already restless. I hate sitting in front of the TV.

I'm watching a movie that I recorded last week from TCM. Blackboard Jungle. I'm waiting for Glenn Ford to kick Vic Morrow around. Good flick.

"He's crazy, he's high, he's flying on Sneaky Pete wine!"; Love that flick

Tonight was not a debate. Bryan Williams and whoever the other guy was had only one objective....to confront the participants and gode them to tangle with each other.
Bryan Williams is the poster child for a network that leaves under God out of commercials....and does not include mentions of Christ in recent glory to a war veteran...he is all about what partisan, party line, protect Obama, mis-information and leaving out any information that does not toe the NBC "PARTY" line.

I applaud Gingrich for calling Bryan on the tactics being used.

And I think the participants did a fairly good job of finessing Bryan's goding and getting their message across.

That is the first time I have ever watched msnbc....because I am more interested in the candidates than I am the network.

btk

Blackboard Jungle was probably better.

I still say Perry is not an American, but a Texan. Thats OK if he stays in Texas, but please don't turn him loose on the whole country. Huntsman showed me some points of quality and even some from Paul. My choice is still Romney. Even if Perry is selected, he will not beat Obama. Sorry fellow conservatives, but I just don't like the man.

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That doggone lamestream media. When will people wake up and realize they are just a political arm of the Democratic party or even worse, socialists. Praise the Lord we have Fox Noise to combat them. :cus:

Fig Newton's comment about trying to get the Republicans to fight amongst themselves was ridiculous. Brian Williams should have responsed with we are trying to see differences between the Republican candidates.

Was Michelle Bachmann decrying the use of all school required vaccines such as smallpox, polio, or whooping cough by saying it is a parent's right to get their children vaccinated? Just what we need in the world is another outbreak of those diseases that were eradicated by vaccines - and required by law to attend school.

Rick Perry still is behind the time about global warming. Scientists (with credentials from other places than FOX News) have decided that global climate change is man-made.

Romney stood up pretty good. Still my choice of any Republican. Ron Paul is a crackpot as is Bachmann. Gingrich is useless. Santorum is a Gingrich puppet. Huntsman was also okay. Cain is out of his league but obviously has ideas.

Blackboard Jungle is a great move to watch on TCM. Vic Morrow made a very convincing "hood", didn't he? One of my favorite television shows was "Combat" starring Vic Morrow as the grizzled sergeant of his WWII platoon.

I sure would rather watch shows like that than the "Dancing with the Stars" or "Big Brother's House".

Watermelon
 

Come one now buggy. Climategate is almost 2 years old. Surely (don't call me shirley) you do not still believe that man has caused global warming. I thought you were a learned guy. Don't you know the Green Movement's True Colors?
Watermelons: Green on the outside and red on the inside.

I think you saw that totally wrong and Newt was absolutely correct. The biased moderators asked very little substantive questions. They were dwelling on the negatives and trying to get the candidates to blast each other. They had a little success getting the 2 frontrunners to do so. I think they were purposely trying to get them to damage each other instead of finding out specifics of how they would govern.

Rick Perry is correct about man made global warming. There is no definitive scientific evidence to prove it. It's not a settled scientific fact. Just cause you say so doesn't make it so.

Your last paragraph is very flawed. Also I'm suspicious of any Republican a guy as leftist as you thinks is peachy. (with all due respect)

:girlneener: fox noise...good one!

IF what you say is true about the "debate" on MSNBC was a planned event for bashing the Republican candidates (and I do not think it went down like that) - why did the Republican candidates bother to attend? Maybe they should have figured that a liberal station like MSNBC would try to just get them to turn on each other and would not attend. Why didn't FOX have them on their staton with the FOX moderators as the hosts?

It gave Americans a chance to see the characters running - so far - and to get a very brief look at their views.

I would still like to get the viewpoints on Michelle Bachmann being upset that children are required to have vaccinations before attending school.

No one put their foot in their mouth. No gaffes. Big winner, in my viewpoint, was Jon Huntsman with Mitt Romney coming in second. Santorum was definitely dead-last.

Buggy, Jon Huntsman should be running as Obama's Vice President.
I, too, have wondered why the Republicans always agree to debates moderated by liberals. Someone pointed out to me that it would be hard to find journalists that aren't liberal. I had to agree.

Latest Rumor
 

Mickey Mouse wears a Keith Olbermann watch.:jester:

John Huntsman was handled with kid gloves for some reason. The liberal commentators must like him a lot, as you do. Unlike everyone else he was not challenged on any topic and only given open ended questions on which to pontificate. They were so sure of him they even gave him a question asking him to bash the others near the end. Very astutely, he refused to comply. He's about as Republican as you are.

The only good points the candidates got in was accomplished by ignoring what the 2 liberal commentators were trying to get them to say and saying what they wanted to say about their candidacy. (I guess I should say 3 liberal commentators including that guy from Telemundo who tried to get the candidates to say something damaging to themselves about illegal immigration.)

I can see what you are saying - so why didn't FOX have the "debate" on their network with their own commentators?

Personally, I enjoyed the chance to see all of them together.

It will be very interesting to see who the final President and VP candidates will be for the Republicans. If either of them is too far to the right such as Bachmann or Perry, kiss it good-bye for 4 more years. If either of them is Evangelical like Santorum, kiss it good-bye. Romney and Huntsman as a ticket might work.

There are supposed to be a few more debates. I don't know the venue for them. We shall see what we shall see.

Ron Paul and some others disagree with your view of Perry. They say he "ain't no conservative" Amazing how everyone looks at something and sees something different.

Romney/Huntsman?; Why would I want that? Everything we run moderate candidates they lose. Gerald Ford, Bob Dole and John McCain were all "moderates" and they went down in flames. I don't want a candidate that liberals like. I want a candidate that makes you say OMG!!

Still, like I held my nose and pulled the lever for McCain, I will vote for whoever is running against this failed President.

On September 22nd there is going to be a debate sponsored by FNC, Google and the Florida GOP. It is being held in Orlando. You can submit questions at FOX News.com

I bet a couple of those candidates will make a stop in The Villages if they are going to be in Orlando.

Anyone going to go see Dickie Cheney at Savannah Center on the 14th?

The Villages is a friendly stop, for the Republican candidate photo-op. (I'm a closet poet)

No, I don't think so. I'll save my money for a more relevant Republican.

Of course not....but I read that all the tickets were gone. So glad to let someone else have ones I could have gotten. Had enough of him...my favorite was when a reporter said something like 60% of Americans were against the war in Iraq and his response was "SO?" Condie also has said he misrepresented events concerning her in his book....Have fun you guys seeing him.....

Cheney..even if he paid me I wouldn't waste my time.

I think it was better to have the debate on MSNBC with Brian Williams. If it had been on Fox "noise", as some of the posters on this forum so affectionately refer to Fox News, the left would currently be making comments on how Fox coddled and lobbed softballs at their own little darlings...Yep, the way it happened was better.

Katz, several weeks ago there was a debate sponsored by FNC. There were no soft ball questions. Newt complained about "gotcha" questions. I thought at the time that liberal journalists would never ask Democrats hardball questions like FOX was asking the Repiublicans. Of course, one of the moderators was Chris Wallace. Hardly a Republican.

Ah, again you honor us with your wit and wisdom. Your are a diamond in the rough, fer sure.

Village Golfer, when are you going to join us for a couple of cold Yeunglings?

Anytime you feel the need for friendly civil discussion. You might be surprised when we meet.;)

Tomorrow, Friday, at Glenview CC around 3 pm would be good for me. How about it?

Let me know if you will be there. I am always up for a meet and greet over a beer or two.

LOL I don't know about tomorrow. I know we have golf in the morning and right now my bride is sleeping off the festivities at Lake Sumter. Rocky and the Rollers were really good tonight.
I really like Glenview's Sunday brunch. My golfing buddies and me try to go there when we can.

Thank-you for the invite but I will not know if it is feasible until tomorrow.

Stay tuned.;)

I was just saying that the liberals would accuse Fox of taking it easy on them...not that it would truly happen that way.

Yes, it is always easier to say the "debate" was not very good because the moderator just tried to get the candidates to fight amongst themselves.

Shifting the blame is always a good technique - and Republicans have used it very well since President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans.

Now, who is going to be first to whine in with their "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"? Got to be at least one of those coming.

I just wish they would ask questions that enable us to understand what these candidates plan to accomplish, and how they plan to, in a clearer way.

The best thing about the debate was the times that the candidates took the debate back by refusing to answer the "gotcha" questions and said what they wanted to say. Newt Gingrich was masterful at that, and to a lesser extent, so was Michelle Bachmann. Rick Perry, after a bad start by taking the bait to attack Romney, showed strength of conviction and refused to be badgered as evidenced by his defense of Texas' capital punishment laws.

OK "but President Obama blames the former administration all the time"

Q: What's the difference between a liberal and a puppy?

A: A puppy stops whining after it grows up.