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taylor111947 10-09-2011 10:03 AM

Accident at LSL Square Sat night about 9pm
 
Anyone know what happened? EMS and police were there a long time. I hope it wasn't too serious.

pooh 10-09-2011 10:38 AM

I could see the flashing lights while viewing the square on the web cam. I, too, hope things weren't too serious.
Nothing noted on the incident page for Sumter County fire and police.... http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=375

mac9 10-09-2011 12:56 PM

A friend was a witness to the incident. It was no accident. A man jumped from a car with a pipe in his hand and accosted another man. He beat the man with the pipe and jumped back into his car and took off, leaving the bloodied man lying in the street. Police were called and the EMTs. Several people were able to provide the police with the license number of the vehicle. The police were there so long because so many people saw the incident and were being interviewed.
Wonder how the Daily Sun will report this?!

villagegolfer 10-09-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mac9 (Post 404101)
a friend was a witness to the incident. It was no accident. A man jumped from a car with a pipe in his hand and accosted another man. He beat the man with the pipe and jumped back into his car and took off, leaving the bloodied man lying in the street. Police were called and the emts. Several people were able to provide the police with the license number of the vehicle. The police were there so long because so many people saw the incident and were being interviewed.
Wonder how the daily sun will report this?!

omg

Posh 08 10-09-2011 01:19 PM

I'm not feeling the love all of a sudden.

villagegolfer 10-09-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 404113)
I'm not feeling the love all of a sudden.

Maybe it was not a random thing. Maybe they knew each other or someone paid this person to do bodily harm.

Chi-Town 10-09-2011 01:56 PM

Could have been random. Maybe an exchange about the driver being inconsiderate of people crossing or who knows. It doesn't take much to set off a road rage incident. Doubt if it was set up, too many witnesses for a drive by. The main thing is that this is one of the things I don't miss. There were four people killed and twenty-three wounded in incidents around Chicago this weekend. But those were mostly gang and family related.

villagegolfer 10-09-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 404136)
Could have been random. Maybe an exchange about the driver being inconsiderate of people crossing or who knows. It doesn't take much to set off a road rage incident. Doubt if it was set up, too many witnesses for a drive by. The main thing is that this is one of the things I don't miss. There were four people killed and twenty-three wounded in incidents around Chicago this weekend. But those were mostly gang and family related.

Seems extreme for road rage. This happened at the square, right?

batman911 10-09-2011 02:31 PM

Irate husband?

Chi-Town 10-09-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by villagegolfer (Post 404141)
Seems extreme for road rage. This happened at the square, right?

Hardly extreme for road rage. I have seen some incidents over the years that would keep you up at night. And a few times it involved someone on the street saying something to someone in a car or vice versa (hence road rage or maybe pedestrian road rage).

John_W 10-09-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mac9 (Post 404101)
...Wonder how the Daily Sun will report this?!

I remember one crowed night at LSL this past July and a brand new car caught on fire at the corner of the square by Urban Flats. I never saw it in the newspaper or remember anyone posting about it on here.

I was crossing the street and noticed the car smoking and some guy was laying in the street trying to pull something out from underneath. It started to get some flames and 3 or 4 people were running around trying to get stuff out of the car, suddenly a guy ran up with a fire extinguisher. Within about 30 seconds it appeared to go out, but then the extinguisher ran out and the fire came back. A crowd of maybe 300-400 began to gather round. The band stopped the music and came to watch, I ran over and got my wife and said let's move back in case that gas tanks blows. Finally two fire trucks and a couple of police cars pull up and put out the fire. The car was pushed over into a parking spot and became a tourist area for the rest of the evening. I think it was a brand new black Chevy with Texas license plates, maybe a rental car.

Larry Wilson 10-09-2011 06:34 PM

I've seen fights at the square and never saw one reported in the sun. Usually started by a jerk over chairs or someone bumps into someone and spills a drink.
The biggest brawl I ever saw was 4 or 5 years ago at a Christmas tree lightning. Big, big crowd at Lake Sumter. (That's a big part of the problem) People get into fights over parking spots and chairs-there is never half enough)
Right after the lightning, the band stated an electric slide line dance. There was no room and a guy bumped a big lady. She grabbed him by the shoulders and threw him into the chairs which also knocked his wife into the chairs. He got up and put the lady into a head lock and threw her into the chairs. Then everybody got in on it. One side were bashing the man for touching a women. The other side was saying she started it and were bashing the people that were bashing the man. It turned into a full scale brawl. Chairs were flying. Mainly guys punching and women trying to stop their men. I never saw anything like it. People were just so close that everybody was bumping into each other. I think many were drunk.
I got out of there as soon as I could. Never saw anything in the paper.

Before anyone attacks me, remember I have been here many, many years and never saw anything like it before or since.
I love it here but its not all roses and sunshine. Every now and then something ugly happens. I hope they catch the guy with the pipe.

villagegolfer 10-09-2011 06:43 PM

Yea, but these incidences are few and far between. I have been here a year and have never seen an argument or a fight. Kind of boring, huh?

philnpat 10-09-2011 07:12 PM

As far as reading about it tomorrow in the Sun...the uninformed will then be misinformed.

villagegolfer 10-09-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by philnpat (Post 404260)
As far as reading about it tomorrow in the Sun...the uninformed will then be misinformed.

Are you saying that the Daily sun will not report the facts?

graciegirl 10-09-2011 09:14 PM

I like the Sun.

I imagine that if what is reported here is true that there will be news about it in tomorrow's paper.

I haven't ever seen violence here in three years time. I wonder what caused this.

Indydealmaker 10-09-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 404292)
I like the Sun.

I imagine that if what is reported here is true that there will be news about it in tomorrow's paper.

I haven't ever seen violence here in three years time. I wonder what caused this.

Gracie, Never fear. Jumping from a car and attacking with a pipe. This kind of attack smacks of something personal. Unlikely to be random.

chuckinca 10-09-2011 10:40 PM

I disagree.

Road rage is random. If I was planning to attack someone with a pipe, I wouldn't do it in the middle of the town square.

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doccrocker 10-09-2011 10:48 PM

Since I don't live in The Villages, yet, I don't get to read the Sun, but I got to thinking that as far as reportage is concerned, I wonder if bad stuff is downplayed. There is an image issue for The Villages. For myself, I'd rather know the facts, but "editing the movie" to get a PG rating has become politically correct.

tippyclubb 10-09-2011 11:06 PM

Wow, it's hard to believe something like this happened in TV. However, it won't stop us from moving there!

Yes, it will be interesting to see if its reported in the Daily Sun.

Barefoot 10-09-2011 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=doccrocker;404321]

I got to thinking that as far as reportage is concerned, I wonder if bad stuff is downplayed.
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Yes, IMHO. That's why we call TV The Bubble! But sometimes it is calming to read about quilting bees as opposed to wars, famine and violence.

Indydealmaker 10-10-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 404319)
I disagree.

Road rage is random. If I was planning to attack someone with a pipe, I wouldn't do it in the middle of the town square.

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I agree with you that if this attack was promulgated by road rage, then it was likely random. Hopefully 5 mph traffic at the square did not feed road rage. I favor the love triangle motive.

graciegirl 10-10-2011 03:02 AM

Will those involved be residents or younger visitors, do you think?

jebartle 10-10-2011 05:27 AM

My guess
 
The "Daily Fun" will gloss over this story....Sure hope the bloodied man is OK....My, my, my...Wish everyone involved had adopted the "Brillo technique"!
:popcorn::popcorn:

tainsley 10-10-2011 05:28 AM

When we were down in July, we were up at Spanish Springs on the weekend and noticed alot of young people hanging out. There was a policeman parked right at the Square both nights. We wondered if there had been problems there on the weekends.

red tail 10-10-2011 05:37 AM

i read somewhere that there is a lady lake officer assigned to ss during certain periods. has nothing to do with trouble.

BlueHeronFan 10-10-2011 06:01 AM

It will be reported in the Daily Sun if there is police involved. At least that is what I see when I read the Sun. There is constant reporting of these types in the Police Blotter.

Surely folks don't expect them to do a feature on it.

philnpat 10-10-2011 06:21 AM

I guess we'll have to wait for the blotter...I didn't see anything about the incident in the Sun this morning.

graciegirl 10-10-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by philnpat (Post 404347)
I guess we'll have to wait for the blotter...I didn't see anything about the incident in the Sun this morning.

Same here. The blotter had a week ago Saturday but not this Saturday yet.

Nothing else I could see.

kathy and al 10-10-2011 07:20 AM

Since this incident happened at 9 p.m. on Sunday night, there's a pretty good chance that at that late a time (especially on a Sunday) it would not have sufficient time to make the Monday morning paper. If it is reported at all I'd probably look for it on Tuesday.

Russ_Boston 10-10-2011 07:23 AM

Someone please keep us up to date on whether it is in the Sun or not tomorrow.

nitehawk 10-10-2011 07:40 AM

If the victim had shot and killed the attacker would that be justifiable homicide
Maybe good idea to pack when at the square

villagegolfer 10-10-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kathy and al (Post 404360)
Since this incident happened at 9 p.m. on Sunday night, there's a pretty good chance that at that late a time (especially on a Sunday) it would not have sufficient time to make the Monday morning paper. If it is reported at all I'd probably look for it on Tuesday.

I thought it happened Saturday night.

graciegirl 10-10-2011 08:40 AM

It was Saturday according to the thread starter. Here is what I think...

The Sun sends out people to cover events like dance classes and polo matches and charity stuff but doesn't seem to have a "Brenda Starr, girl reporter" who covers the police runs. Now I think this is by design because people lying bloody in the street isn't good news at all and doesn't encourage people to buy a home....HOWEVER.....some of us well meaning "news reporters" on here repeat gossip and hearsay and absolutely rock solid stuff repeated to them..........so I don't know which is worse. Not getting the news or getting incorrect news.

But I would like to get to the bottom of this.

And I don't think carrying a gun to the square is going to help anything.

STAND BACK...............!

chuckinca 10-10-2011 08:45 AM

I didn't see any story in the Sunday or Monday Daily Sun on this incident.


If people have carry permits they carry at the squares and everywhere else they go.


Wonder if there is a gunslingers club in TV?


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Larry Wilson 10-10-2011 08:56 AM

Sorry this is a little off topic but is an example of the Sun and coverage.
About a month ago a meth lab on wheels was driving around the Villages. Because of smoke coming out of a trailer it was stopped. People were arrested.
It was big news because no one had ever heard of a meth lab on wheels. It made Florida papers-A friend from Ocala and one from Occee called me about it. They thought it would be the talk of the Villages.(no pun intended) Not a word in the Sun and no one knew a thing about it.

I haven't seen anything in The Sun about this incident unless I missed it.

Tweety Bird 10-10-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker;40***0
I agree with you that if this attack was promulgated by road rage, then it was likely random. Hopefully 5 mph traffic at the square did not feed road rage. I favor the love triangle motive.

I agree. Could be the love triangle motive. Who carries a steel pipe in their car? Maybe a contractor? LOL

debzaranti 10-10-2011 09:47 AM

A note to the people on the forum who haven't made the move to TV yet....this is a rare occurrence! Don't let that deter you from moving here. Compared to any other U.S. town or city, our crime rate has to be just about the LOWEST in the nation! (thank God!)

We moved here from south suburban Chicago...so TV's apparent "dullness" is such a welcome change for us. Got tired of finding spent bullet casings in the gutters in front of our house up north, as well as empty crack cocaine packets and booze bottles tossed on our front lawn!

About the kids on the squares....a lot of the locals (teenagers and older) come to our community for entertainment...most likely because there is NOTHING in their towns, except trouble. I can only imagine how happy parents of these teens are to have a safe place (TV) for their kids to come to after prom, homecoming and just to hang out in.

So far, all the young people I've seen on our squares have been polite and respectful. I think the majority of them appreciate having a nice place to come to. Those few that don't behave, are usually "escorted" off the squares by the police, in pretty short order. (I've never witnessed this, but have been told it's happened).

2BNTV 10-10-2011 09:56 AM

I really don''t know why someone would have a need to carry a pipe in their car. Could it be this person is angry and is looking for the slightest provocation to defend himself against perceived threats?

I find this to be a disturbing but very rare incident that I would like to find out what really is behind this attack although it would never stop me from moving to TV.

As Joe Friday said, "just the facts, mame".

As a wannbee, please post if it is made known what really happened.

Uptown Girl 10-10-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debzaranti (Post 404410)
A note to the people on the forum who haven't made the move to TV yet....this is a rare occurrence! Don't let that deter you from moving here. Compared to any other U.S. town or city, our crime rate has to be just about the LOWEST in the nation! (thank God!)

We moved here from south suburban Chicago...so TV's apparent "dullness" is such a welcome change for us. Got tired of finding spent bullet casings in the gutters in front of our house up north, as well as empty crack cocaine packets and booze bottles tossed on our front lawn!

About the kids on the squares....a lot of the locals (teenagers and older) come to our community for entertainment...most likely because there is NOTHING in their towns, except trouble. I can only imagine how happy parents of these teens are to have a safe place (TV) for their kids to come to after prom, homecoming and just to hang out in.

So far, all the young people I've seen on our squares have been polite and respectful. I think the majority of them appreciate having a nice place to come to. Those few that don't behave, are usually "escorted" off the squares by the police, in pretty short order. (I've never witnessed this, but have been told it's happened).

I understand your point Debz, but gotta ask, where in the Chicago south suburbs did you live, Dixmoor?:shrug:


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