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pooh 12-21-2011 07:33 PM

Question re: CC&R's and attitudes....mostly a vent!
 
When we bought our homes here in TV, we were informed that the community had deed restrictions, CC&R's in other words. We were to have read them and sign off that we had done so. Having lived in a development for 30 years with CC&R's, I didn't find this to be very troublesome. It was easy to read the restrictions and honestly, they weren't much different from ones we had lived with prior to moving to this wonderful part of Florida.
While living in that community in CA, I was involved with the homeowners association and some of those duties included helping homeowners who were subjected to things that were forbidden by the CC&R's because some in the development felt that the rules weren't applicable to them. One infraction caused a breakup of friendships and the eventual move of a family. Sadly I was a part of the enforcement section of that deed restriction and the stress of the entire situation almost made me move away...but the HOA was correct in enforcing their rules...the city also had the restriction as part of the land deed. No one wanted a very tall CB antenna in the neighborhood and neither did the city. Heck we absolutely could not have outdoor antennas and this family wanted everyone to ignore the rules because, heck, they were nice people. Yes, they were....until they wanted all to ignore this little rule for them. It went over like a brick balloon.

My point is and it did take me a while to get to it, didn't it.... :) we have some in TV who feel that some of the rules are insignificant and infractions of those rules are not earth shaking....true, but when one acknowledges that they have read the rules and by purchasing their lot, acknowledges that they will live by them, why do they suddenly decide not to? Is it because they have come from an area where they had no such thing? Guess I'm very sensitive about this, having had to deal with many irate neighbors, take some to small claims court, etc, in order to keep our community as nice as when we first moved in....and we were the second family to move into the development.

I'll get off my soapbox now, but maybe only one foot. The other one is still up there....just incase I feel the need to sound off again. The rules here aren't difficult to live with. Okay, other foot is now firmly planted on the ground.

Happinow 12-21-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 431533)
When we bought our homes here in TV, we were informed that the community had deed restrictions, CC&R's in other words. We were to have read them and sign off that we had done so. Having lived in a development for 30 years with CC&R's, I didn't find this to be very troublesome. It was easy to read the restrictions and honestly, they weren't much different from ones we had lived with prior to moving to this wonderful part of Florida.
While living in that community in CA, I was involved with the homeowners association and some of those duties included helping homeowners who were subjected to things that were forbidden by the CC&R's because some in the development felt that the rules weren't applicable to them. One infraction caused a breakup of friendships and the eventual move of a family. Sadly I was a part of the enforcement section of that deed restriction and the stress of the entire situation almost made me move away...but the HOA was correct in enforcing their rules...the city also had the restriction as part of the land deed. No one wanted a very tall CB antenna in the neighborhood and neither did the city. Heck we absolutely could not have outdoor antennas and this family wanted everyone to ignore the rules because, heck, they were nice people. Yes, they were....until they wanted all to ignore this little rule for them. It went over like a brick balloon.

My point is and it did take me a while to get to it, didn't it.... :) we have some in TV who feel that some of the rules are insignificant and infractions of those rules are not earth shaking....true, but when one acknowledges that they have read the rules and by purchasing their lot, acknowledges that they will live by them, why do they suddenly decide not to? Is it because they have come from an area where they had no such thing? Guess I'm very sensitive about this, having had to deal with many irate neighbors, take some to small claims court, etc, in order to keep our community as nice as when we first moved in....and we were the second family to move into the development.

I'll get off my soapbox now, but maybe only one foot. The other one is still up there....just incase I feel the need to sound off again. The rules here aren't difficult to live with. Okay, other foot is now firmly planted on the ground.

:agree:

Trish Crocker 12-21-2011 07:47 PM

I agree 100%!! There is nothing wrong with wanting to live in an area that doesn't have restrictions, but, if that's the way you feel then don't buy in an area that does. One of the problems is that, if a situation is allowed to go on because the people are "nice"..it sets a precedent and therefore the rule is no longer allowed to be enforced. I want to live in an area that has structure..that's one of the great things about TV.

ceejay 12-21-2011 07:48 PM

Well said, Pooh.

You forgot to add the icon: :spoken:

I think some just like to stir up trouble. If little children moved in next door to them or someone put Snow White and all her 7 Dwarfs on display on their next door front lawn, they would probably be the first to make that phone call.

Thanks for venting!

LvmyPug2 12-21-2011 08:42 PM

Couldn't agree more. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. One person thinks they have a "beautiful garden statue" and all the rest of us see a tacky lawn ornament. For those of you who are reading this and thinking "not my stuff" Yes, I really am talking about your gazing globes, statues of the Virgin Mary, and all those little squirrels and garden gnomes....

angiefox10 12-21-2011 08:50 PM

And I always dreamed of putting out a hot pink flamingo!

TommyT 12-21-2011 08:51 PM

Okay, I have to say this !!!!
 
Call the enforcer of the rules. They might not know or look the other way until someone complains ..... :cus:

:spoken:

JimPete 12-21-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 431570)
And I always dreamed of putting out a hot pink flamingo!

I thought the plastic pink flamingo was the Florida state bird. Why would you ban that? :1rotfl:

renrod 12-21-2011 08:59 PM

It needs to be "faded pink" to be the state bird.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 431574)
I thought the plastic pink flamingo was the Florida state bird. Why would you ban that? :1rotfl:

It needs to be "faded pink" to be the state bird.

chuckinca 12-21-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 431570)
And I always dreamed of putting out a hot pink flamingo!

:agree:


Pink flamingo yard ornament(s) means retired in Florida!


.

JimPete 12-21-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renrod (Post 431576)
It needs to be "faded pink" to be the state bird.

My apology. Ornithology is not my forte. :)

pooh 12-21-2011 09:06 PM

They can be dressed as Christmas yard decorations you know.... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg..... ;)

JimPete 12-21-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 431581)
They can be dressed as Christmas yard decorations you know.... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg..... ;)

I like them! Can you get the set at Walmart or do they sell them seperately?

BTY I do agree with you rant. Any time you want to put both feet back up on the soap box, feel free. :)

pooh 12-21-2011 09:17 PM

Amazon....and Christmas might be the one time you can put the little buggers out and not be in violation. Heck I've seen some beautiful lighted ones as part of Christmas displays and they are absolutely adorable! For the life of me, I can't find them anywhere! Probably should have started looking in July!

JimPete 12-21-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 431587)
Amazon....and Christmas might be the one time you can put the little buggers out and not be in violation. Heck I've seen some beautiful lighted ones as part of Christmas displays and they are absolutely adorable! For the life of me, I can't find them anywhere! Probably should have started looking in July!

Ahh. Nothing says Christmas like a lighted flamingo or an inflatable Santa on a Harley.

pooh 12-21-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 431594)
Ahh. Nothing says Christmas like a lighted flamingo or an inflatable Santa on a Harley.

How true, how true....:1rotfl::1rotfl: Don't ya just love it!!!

angiefox10 12-21-2011 09:27 PM

You two...
 
are killing me!!!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

pooh 12-21-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 431596)
How true, how true....:1rotfl::1rotfl: Don't ya just love it!!!

Don't forget these for Halloween, Jim....http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...vL._AA300_.jpg

pooh 12-21-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 431599)
are killing me!!!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

This for you Angie.... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

JimPete 12-21-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooh (Post 431600)
Don't forget these for Halloween, Jim....http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...vL._AA300_.jpg

You don't have a stuffed one for Thanksgiving do you? :icon_hungry:

pooh 12-21-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 431605)
You don't have a stuffed one for Thanksgiving do you? :icon_hungry:


Well, I don't, but someone does.... ;)

http://teamflamingo.files.wordpress....ing_turkey.jpg

but remember this......http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RGUNc7fm6j...g+Flamingo.png

JimPete 12-21-2011 09:52 PM

Pooh, you have got to be the mosted well versed individual I have met on the subject of hot pink plastic flamingos. Your resources seem endless.

:bigbow: :spoken:

Jim

pooh 12-21-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 431610)
Pooh, you have got to be the mosted well versed individual I have met on the subject of hot pink plastic flamingos. Your resources seem endless.

:bigbow: :spoken:

Jim

That one year of ornithology in college did wonders, didn't it....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

VillagesFlorida 12-21-2011 10:01 PM

I DO have a lighted flamingo and it resides right under the lighted palm tree...ya gotta love Christmas in Florida!

From a yard in the neighborhood:

JimPete 12-21-2011 10:07 PM

Village people certainly are a fun lot!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

pooh 12-21-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagesflorida (Post 431613)
i do have a lighted flamingo and it resides right under the lighted palm tree...ya gotta love christmas in florida!

From a yard in the neighborhood:


Perfect!!!

JimPete 12-21-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 431599)
are killing me!!!!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Angie, please don't encourage us, we'll just keep going all night if you do.

:icon_wink:

CarGuys 12-21-2011 10:16 PM

Nice Post
 
Rules are there for protection. If they are a bad rule(s) and the majority votes to change them then that is how they are modified.

As soon as you start bending this way and that for whom ever it gets complicated.

If I did not want to follow the rules of the Villages then I would never have moved here.

And I have friends who mock me for moving here and will not move here because of the rules. So be it!

:agree:

pooh 12-21-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarGuys (Post 431621)
Rules are there for protection. If they are a bad rule(s) and the majority votes to change them then that is how they are modified.

As soon as you start bending this way and that for whom ever it gets complicated.

If I did not want to follow the rules of the Villages then I would never have moved here.

And I have friends who mock me for moving here and will not move here because of the rules. So be it!

:agree:

The rules here aren't difficult to live with, at least not for me. I can't believe they're that difficult for others, either. Maybe, as I've mentioned, some just have not lived in areas where there were restrictions.

One does have to admit, the place is lovely and over the years, has continued to remain so. What's the old saying, "People mock what they don't understand."

VillagesFlorida 12-21-2011 10:24 PM

The rules rule!

natickdan 12-21-2011 10:35 PM

We bought in TV because of the rules and as I show visitors around our community, I'm proud to show them where we live.

JimPete 12-21-2011 10:41 PM

I agree. We just sold our Va. house that is in a community which enforces the reasonable rules that everybody who moves in agrees to and it is just as nice today as it was ten years ago when we moved in. It's when the rules are forgotten that the neighborhood starts to decline. It only takes a few people that think an old car up on blocks in the driveway is art to give the community a black eye.

CarGuys 12-21-2011 10:51 PM

Cars!
 
" Honey do you mind removing that transmission so I can take a bath?"

Yes dear As soon as find my wrenches. I gotta get this grass cut!

Where's those kids?

CaptJohn 12-21-2011 11:09 PM

This all reminds me of a Mayberry show of Andy Griffith where Barney Fife is lecturing some prisoners in the jail cell and says something like: Rule number 1: Obey all rules.

Pooh, I totally understand. I used to be Chairman of an island ARC. It was really hard dealing with some of them and we had to take some to court. Very unpleasant but necessary.

JimPete 12-21-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptJohn (Post 431639)
This all reminds me of a Mayberry show of Andy Griffith where Barney Fife is lecturing some prisoners in the jail cell and says something like: Rule number 1: Obey all rules.

Pooh, I totally understand. I used to be Chairman of an island ARC. It was really hard dealing with some of them and we had to take some to court. Very unpleasant but necessary.

Rule #2 Go back to rule #1 and repeat as needed.

skyguy79 12-21-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPete (Post 431643)
Rule #2 Go back to rule #1 and repeat as needed.

Reminds me, I used to have a sign near my desk at work that stated:

Rule No. 1: The boss is always right!
Rule No. 2: If the boss is wrong, see rule no. 1.

However, my employees thought they were always right anyway! ;)

Wing-nut2 12-22-2011 05:40 AM

:agree:

RichieB 12-22-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 431650)
Reminds me, I used to have a sign near my desk at work that stated:

Rule No. 1: The boss is always right!
Rule No. 2: If the boss is wrong, see rule no. 1.

However, my employees thought they were always right anyway! ;)

Had a boss who had a sign in his office that said: "If you don't understand it, oppose it."

That provided for some interesting discussions (and roadblocks).

skyguy79 12-22-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieB (Post 431706)
Had a boss who had a sign in his office that said: "If you don't understand it, oppose it."

That provided for some interesting discussions (and roadblocks).

I guess that means that you didn't work for Congress! :1rotfl:

CaptJohn 12-22-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 431650)
Reminds me, I used to have a sign near my desk at work that stated:

Rule No. 1: The boss is always right!
Rule No. 2: If the boss is wrong, see rule no. 1.

However, my employees thought they were always right anyway! ;)

I prefer:
The boss isn't always right but he's always the boss.


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