Robbery at gunpoint in TV?
 

Did anyone hear about a robbery at gunpoint a couple of nights ago? My DW is a nurse at The Villages Hospital and all of the other nurses in her department were discussing the robbery of a nurse in the hospital parking lot a couple of nights ago. I've been trying to find information on it but can't find anything online or in the Daily Sun (obviously).

My wife works nights and she is concerned. I guess I can contact Sumter County law enforcement but I was hoping someone on here might have heard something.

:throwtomatoes:If you wanted to know if it happened you could call Sumter Co.

But.... if you just wanted to bash The Daily Sun and start a nasty rumor
about the community we live in than don't call.:ohdear:

How would knowing that something like this happened start a nasty rumor about our community? If it did happen then all of us need to know about it so that we can take precautions so that it don't happen again. The Daily Sun should run a story on how to take necessary measures to insure that this don't happen again.

:shrug: You don't have a clue!!!

yes he does......figmo is very astute on this subject!

So I guess this means you didn't hear anything?

1. Certainly not bashing the Sun. I subscribe, I read it every day, I take it for what it is--a smattering of news off the wire, great info on what is happening in TV, a marketing tool for TV. I don't expect them to run much "bad" news about TV, and I get what I expect. Definitely worth the $.15 a day I pay for the paper.

2. I resent you suggesting that I want to "start a nasty rumor about the community we live in." I live here too and I love it here. Are you suggesting I am lying? Are you suggesting my wife is lying? Are you suggesting her co-workers are lying? I guess it's easy to be a cyber bully behind the anonymity of a computer screen. I simply asked if anyone had any further information on something I had heard, one of the truly nice benefts of TOTV.

3. I don't think there is anything wrong with letting other readers know that there is a potential danger out there. Potential danger. I've always thought it better to err on the side of caution.

I am only an occasional visitor to The Villages, so I may be off here, but ... isn't the hospital in Lake County?

Not sure (we just moved here the end of August. I know my Village is in Sumter and my house is exactly 2.3 miles from the hospital), but this is precisely WHY I like to go to TOTV first for information.

cybrgeezer:

No, the hospital is in the very farthest northeast corner of Sumter County. It is very, very close to Lady Lake and Lake County, but is, for sure, in Sumter County.

Not that I'm all that sure it matters, as far as this thread is concerned!?!?

SWR
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Thanks for the heads up on this cappyjon. I know that the Sun publishes all good news because most of the news from TV is good, but when something that should concern a lot of us is not published we need to know about it. I know it taints the reputation that TV has but come on folks, there is crime most everywhere and TV is probably not immune from it. There's just much less of it. I personally want to know about the not so good stuff that happens. We should never let our guard down totally....

Rumor - "an UNVERIFIED account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern"

No, I did not hear anything.

1. It sounded to me like you were bashing The Sun. I don't really care if you do. I pretty much agree with your take on The Sun.

2. I don't believe I suggested you "wanted" to start a rumor (please see definition) I said " if ". And I never said the word LYING about you, your wife or her co-workers. Please don't put words in my mouth and read things with more care.

3. There is always potential danger out there. I hope you're not just learning that.

You should really stop....you're going to go blind.:coolsmiley:

I like your avatar. "Dont tread on me"

:agree:

Just discussing this with the family at dinner. Don't you wonder why someone would attempt to rob a nurse getting off the night shift? Most just carry a little lunch money.

I guess they will have to beef up the security in the parking lot at night.
Thank goodness for surveillance cameras.

I would hope that the paper would cover these types of stories. It is in the public interest to do so. We should all feel safe here. At times it feels as if we live in Stepford where everything is controlled, and nothing bad is to be talked about or admitted too. If someone has information regarding this crime, I hope they will post the information here.

My wife is also a nurse that works at the hospital but she works the day shift(7am-7pm). She has no first hand knowledge of it but said that it was the talk of the hospital.

My neighbor is a volunteer at the hospital. Today she told me there was an
"incident" in the parking lot. Someone tried to rob, either a nurse or a volunteer, as they were leaving work and walking to their car. My neighbor did not mention a gun, but that is not to say there was or wasn't one.

Boy howdy.

Two jewel thefts were reported in the Daily Sun in the last seven days. Why in the world wouldn't an attempted robbery in the parking lot of the hospital NOT be reported? Seems like the same kind of bad stuff to me?

Why?
 

Gracie,

Tiss the Season, Desperation = Money = Drugs = Debt= More debt more Drugs.

I am Glad not one was seriously hurt. Hope they escort all out staff out to their cars for security in case a return incident is planned.

Figmo- Does Florida allow one to carry Mace? Or a strong pepper spray?

Car.

Not why in the world would someone attempt to rob...but why in the world would an attempt to rob NOT be reported in the Daily Sun? They reported two other things of equal concern in the last couple of weeks. I get so tired of the conspiracy theories. And so tired of hearing that they hush things up. It is a nine to five reporting situation and sometimes you read things a couple of days after they have happened...but I think the Sun is getting better at reporting these sorts of things.

Caution
 

Caution is always in order. There were a couple of incidents a few years ago not too long after we moved here (moved in in Feb. 2004) where some people were accosted when they arrived home. I don't remember if it happened inside the garage or in the driveway, but yes, they did happen. As someone else has stated, we are not immune here. Remember, Villagers are not the only ones using the hospital, entertainment venues, hotels, restaurants, etc. The bigger we get, the more vulnerable we will be. Caution and paranoia are not the same. One is reasonable, the other is not.

Hearing about it a few days later doesn't help the person who is rob, mugged or murdered the next day. The area, and the paper, is large enough to have a "Hot desk" where late reported items can be handled, and updated as quickly as possible. We all understand that the days of "Stop The Presses" is long gone, but putting the daiy to bed by 5PM, doesn't help or keep people informed in a proper way. They should consider editting stories up to a later time, like 9, 10 or 11PM. They will still have the paper available the next morning.

Just my thoughts.

One of your previous posts says that you JUST moved here. Give it a couple of weeks. You will see it isn't bad at all, The Sun.

And WELCOME to you Sgt John. I hope you enjoy every second of a thousand years here with us in lower Paradise!

Good Point
 

Guess I am used to working for media that reports EVERYTHING! sometimes maybe to much to quick.

Good Point Cracie

Instead of these comments about bashing the Daily Sun, if someone would pick up their phone and call the Sumter County Sheriff Office - this whole thing could be resolved very easily.

Well, I hate to say it, but it was not a rumor, it was confirmed by my wife's supervisor at the hospital. Not a lot of details, but a gun was involved, it was a female hospital employee (not a nurse but also not a volunteer). and it happened at a remote parking lot by the helicopter landing pad.

Hopefully the Sun will report it in the next day or so just to put the word out there--remember, a lot of TV residents are not on TOTV. I never intended to bash the Sun, like I posted earlier it does a good job for what it does, but comprehensive reporting (especially crime reporting) should not be expected. They do run the "Ploice Blotter" in the local section (I think on Mondays), but they usually only show a log of arrests, not of crimes that were committed. Gracie, I know that they reported the jewelry thefts, but in my mind there is a big difference between a burglary and a robbery. A robbery with a gun is a lot scarier to most folks and certainly could be considered very bad "publicity." I certainly am not claiming "conspiracy theory," I just don't have real high expectations of the local paper.

I offered to drive my wife to work tonight in case she was scared. She said it was not necessary because she drives her cart to work and parks right outside the hospital doors. She also said that since she only carries a dollar in her purse to work, she would consider asking the robber for some cash to help defray our Christmas expenses. At least she has a sense of humor about it.

Well not here to bash the sun or anything else but i worked in a Clevland hospital and we have had things happen more than you can count, very good friend was robbed, beaten and her car jacked. It was never reported in any ohio paper. We have armed guards that saw what was going on and came as quick as they could, it was all handled within, never in print. But we were all informed by the admin to be very aware if we were not comfortable ask someone to take us out to our car. So as for the lack of news print, some hospitals just handle a problem as they see fit.

Thanks cappijohn for starting the thread and making us aware of the situation that occurred. Guns are everywhere...why wouldn't they be used against others in these unfortunate desperate times for some. Just glad that no one got hurt.

Thanks for the definition of "rumor." That does not mean that rumors don't neccesarily turn out to be true. I also don't think it is necessary to squelch a rumor--sometimes getting information out to the public can be important. I think that it was evident in my initial post that I was asking anybody on TOTV if they could confirm this "rumor." I was not stating it as fact, just something that I had heard and it disturbed me.

1. I don't know where you thought I was bashing the Sun. I have maintained all along that the Sun is very good at what they do, but that we shouldn't expect any type of in-depth investigative journalism.

I am not one of those conspiracy theorists. The developers own the paper and they have a right to print what they want. It is their paper. Would I like to see better reporting? Of course, but I don't expect it. I think we are on the same page here.

Gracie, I know that the Sun reported the jewel heists, and that they run the "Police Blotter" once a week (I think on Mondays). I also think that a robbery with a gun is scarier (at least to me) than a burglary. Obviously they are both horrible, but violent crime is more disturbing to the public and probably considered worse publicity for residents and potential residents. It SHOULD be reported. Hopefully it will be.

2. Bombero, you are playing a semantic game here and using a rhetorical device often employed by disreputable politicians. You wrote:

"If you wanted to know if it happened you could call Sumter Co.

But.... if you just wanted to bash The Daily Sun and start a nasty rumor
about the community we live in than don't call."

Lets examine why I took offense to this. You are using a logical fallacy which essentially limits the number of possibilities out there.

For example, you wrote "If you wanted to know if it happened you could call Sumter Co." Certainly true, but did you ever consider that I could also go on TOTV and ask if anybody could confirm this event? That is exactly what I did. That is one possibility that you overlooked. Another is that I could get confirmation from another source...which I also did.

You also used the classic "But," essentially saying that if I don't call the police, than I am either A) Bashing the Sun or B) Starting a nasty rumor about our community. It is an "If-than" statement, logically (and linguistically very powerful) saying if you this is done than this is what logically follows. Once again it severely limits the realm of logical possibilities out there. Do you believe it was possible that I was neither bashing the Sun nor intentionally starting a nasty rumor about our community? Truth be told, I was doing neither. I heard about a potentially troubling incident, I asked if anyone could verify it, and put the info out there so that others could be warned of a possible threat.

It seems as if you were questioning my motivations (bash the Sun, starting a nasty rumor) without giving me the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt. You didn't say anyone was lying, but rhetorically if you accuse someone of "starting a nasty rumor" it is implied.

3. As to your statement that "There is always potential danger out there. I hope you're not just learning that." A little obvious don't you think? "I hope you're just not learning that" is a little derogatory. The question is not: Is there danger out there? Obviously there is. The question should be, should people be warned about potential dangers of which they might not be aware.

I apologize Car...I did say..."Why in the world would someone attempt to rob a nurse, they only usually carry lunch money". I did say that.

I ain't right.

No Problem
 

:coolsmiley::coolsmiley::agree:

Very nice comeback to some rather harsh and insensitive comments.

:agree:
Lets add unnecessary too.

Here we go again bad vibes bad vibes...Come on Bombero WHERE did you even get a hint that what you are accusing is true? I don't see nor can I even read into it to get your claim he is "bashing the Sun"

Chill dude.... :boxing2:

I agree and I am tired of bad vibes. I am certainly willing to put the whole thing to rest.

Bombero and I just had a disagreement, as adults are likely to do. I had a concern about an issue and sought confirmation. Bombero thought that maybe I should have sought outside confirmation prior to posting on TOTV.

While I felt he came across as a little harsh and I took offense, I respect his desire to prevent needlessy smearing the local paper and to prevent nasty rumors about our wonderful community.

Nothing in today's paper.

Cappy ... thanks for starting this thread. It's important to be aware of what's going on in our hometown...the good and the bad.

I also applaud the classy way you handled some of the disagreeable replies. There is a better view from the high road.

CarGuy, Florida's CWL (concealed weapons license) not CCW (concealed carry weapon) allows you to carry mace, tazer and other non-lethal items as well as firearms. You can find the complete statue if you google Florida Concealed Carry laws. Way to long to state all that you can and can not carry or do on this thread.

Now as for the Daily Sun. I like the newspaper, it gives the schedules for the Rec Centers and other happenings in TV. If I want other news, good or bad about the surrounding area there are other newspapers I can read. Hope that clears that up for Bombero or whatever that handle was.

Just curious, does any radio station carry local news? Did anybody call the Sheriff's Office for info?

I really, really, really, really like you. I feel the need to hug you, your wife and all of your pets. You are a decent, fair KIND person. :spoken: