Here we go again
 

I could except MO and MN voting for a redneck, but Colorado is normally more intelligent than to vote for Santorum. I am once again embarrassed to be a Republican. Why can't people see what a redneck Bigot he is. I thought we were beyond idiocy when we ran Freakboy out of the running, now I have to worry about this redneck. I want Romney in the WH, but I like so many American (THAT WALK UPRIGHT OF COURSE) will vote for Obama to protect us all from Neanderthals like Santorum.

I hope I have not been to hard on him, as even with his bigotry, he does seems to be a man of faith, even though it is misguided.

Does not matter who wins on the Repub side, they are all the same, just their mouth works different, but their ideas are all the same.

Wow...this post is like a pot calling the kettle black (not meant to be racist).

Geeze...why don't you tell us how you really feel?:shocked:

Who is the "bigot" here? :ohdear:

ceejay, I am not a bigot, I hate everyone equally.

:boom::):boom:

The only true conservative won these 3 primaries and the phony conservative O.P. is P.O.'d. He would vote for Obama over Santorum and has the cojones to try to portray himself as a "conservative" all this time? Bah!!; I never bought that and now he's come out of his closet.

Americans who would vote for Santorum are not human, but people who don't "walk upright"?

A man who lives by his Christian principles is called a "Neanderthal"?

We now grow "rednecks" in Pennsylvania, I guess.

The words spoken by the OP are the words of a bigot, while calling others bigots.

You hope you have "not been too hard on him"?.........R U Kidding????

I am not a supporter of Santorum, but your post is vile, objectionable and I assume reflects the hate you carry with you on a daily basis.

I am also a Romney supporter but seeing you also do gives me pause...I do not want to be affiliated with anyone that can so easily spew hatred like this.

"We now grow "rednecks" in Pennsylvania, I guess."

You could be a redneck if.......you were born in Virginia and raised in West Virginia.

Santorum supporter
 

i have heard Sen Santorum speak live twice and i wish everyone could here him in person and see his sincerity and love for this country....with Trump threatening a third party run if we don't choose Romney, essentially blackmailing all Republicans, it is doubtful that Santorum will get the nomination, but he is definitely the best man!

I agree completely. Rick Santorum is without a doubt in my mind the finest candidate running for the office. He doesn't have the support of the Republican Establishment, or any of the massive free political advertising and name recognition that the major newspapers are giving Romney.

But Santorum has the message that all of middle America will gravitate to if they are given and take the opportunity to hear this solid American speak.

That I sincerely doubt. :ohdear:

If Santorum gets the GOP nomination, that is spectacular news for the Democrats. The Democrat victory would be by over 15% compared to 3% if Romney would be the candidate.

How many Hispanics and Black voters would vote for Santorum? Hardly any is the answer. He is basically bigoted as shown in this link where he targets blacks as recepients of aid and no one else. Santorum targets blacks in entitlement reform - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

I say Santorum should be the candidate. It would provide an even easier victory for President Obama.

Gov Romney did not carry one county in MN, in spite of having former Gov Pawlenty and former Sen Coleman as his surrogates.

You can be a christain and not have hatred for Gay folks.
I have met more rednecks from Pennsylvania and New York than I have from Alabama.
I am a Bigot when it comes to Bigots like Santorum.
I would ask your view of Gay people. Do you consider them animals like Sartorum does? Just asking for clarification.

I only do this because of the hatred spewed by Santorum openly and on a national stage. He is a despicable bigot.

Thanks for the post and the link. People need to take a close look at this bigot and see him for what he is. Being a devout Christian does not give you the right to be a bigot and spew the hatred that this one man redneck bigot machine has been doing for years. As said by Bourbon breath, I am out of the closet now. Call it what you wish, but I will not condemn a man or women because they are GAY. They have rights just like the rest of American and should not be cast out like Santorum Does to them. The calling of Gay people animals is the only real issue I have with Santorm, but it is a big enough issue for me to vote out of my party to help stop someone like him from getting into the WH. I agree with Bourbon Breath on many many issue on this forum, but the condemnation of Gay American is too much for me to tolerate.

While Santorum is solid in the values that have made America great, like working for a living instead of voting for a living, refusing to spend money you don't have, and revering God instead of an alluring politician (those same values that have now been flushed down the toilet by Obama-Pelosi-Reid et al), Santorum does not have the requisite superficiality (of charm, good looks and promising free stuff) to defeat

Slick Barry

in the debates.

(Slick Willy is a mere novice compared to Slick Barry.)

I agree that Santorum is solid in the values that have made America Great, but ya just can't sanction his bigotry.

With all due respect, you are confused.

Sorry, Richie. I will never vote for someone who makes the claim that my gay relatives engage in the equivalent of bestiality.

Those are not the values that I want in *my* version of America.

Here's some Santorum quotes that turn my stomach:

Privacy?
So I'll reference the Constitution in that privacy is mentioned in Ammendments 1 (Privacy of Belief), 3 (of Home) and 4 (one's Person and Possessions) - and let's not forget the 9th that says more rights may exist.

Marriage? Hey, Rick - I had a vasectomy after my second daughter was born. I was divorced a few years back but I just got married a year and a half ago. What say you?
(I guess infertile couples who don't adopt shouldn't be married)

What about The Pursuit of Happiness?

Yes, Santorum does have a holier than thou attitude and wants to force his belief on everyone else. That is one thing about these uberconservatives that I cannot stand.

Well, we do not have to worry that Santorum or his ilk will get control of the White House. The voters in America are too wise for that smug bigot to be voted in.

That is crap !! TOTAL !!!

He gives his opinion on things personal.....as does the President...well, that is not true...he doesnt actually..he changes with the audience, HOWEVER...

A man gives his opinion...he never, to my knowledge did anything more. I will agree he will not be the candidate but now he is the one you must villify personally as he is getting more attention.

Your personal attacks just keep an eye on whatever the target of the day is.

Wow, Bucco, I did not mean to cause you such anguish. Sounds as though you were about ready to have a stroke and we sure do not want that to happen.

You should come over to the watering hole some time and get to know a few of the posters personally. You might be very surprised.

I can only imagine your personal attacks in person and under some influence...so will pass, and I have been here quite sometime and know a few posters quite well.

BUT BUT BUT BUT his personal opinions are give in public stating that Gay Americans are no different than animals. Do you agree with that bigotry? Do you want a public official selecting what segments of our society are acceptable and which ones are not? He is a christian version of Osama Bin Laden.

I haven't heard it mentioned that Sen Santorum got his local school district in PA to give him $30,000.00 so he could home school his kids. And why is Gov Romney getting secret service protection when he has only won three contests? Santorum has won four. Both items seem like a waste of taxpayer's money.

And why have far fewer people voted or caucused this year than 2008? Voting was down 16% in Florida.

does it matter that there was a LOW voter turn out? Which is a shame because that is how we wound up with Obama.

Frankly I smell a bit of chum on the water in the presentation of the thread.

btk

Because we are talking about Santorum being a bigot not a thief. Most politicians are crocked, but rarely is one such an obvious Bigot.

Just because I am a conservative Republican, does not cause me to close my eyes to a terrible wrong. The man is a bigot and should not be allowed to serve as a public figure.

Let me add mine: I heard him talking about Obama's attack on religion. He said Obama's support of freedom of choice was an assault on the church because the church does not believe in freedom of choice.

Ok...Obama eats pork...do I think he is assaulting the Jewish religion? Well, duh, of course not. Rickie plays fast and loose with his analogies...This kind of circular thinking is very silly.

And again, I feel like I have to say that I am not and have never been an Obama supporter and I am considering voting for a repub for president for the second time in my life. First was McCain, until he picked the Palin. Right now, I would vote for Romney, provided he does not pull a Palin like move.

Villiager II You cannot compare Santorum to bin Laden because in the Muslim world they do not have gays because when they find them they mysteriously disappear.

Santorum is offering a moral vision that once was common place in America. Somewhere along the way we lost our moral footing and good became bad and bad became good. Character was replaced with personality (Kardashians ,et al come to mind) and thus hero worship goes to drug oriented rock and roll stars, actors whose exploits are intentional in order to get publicity. Family and family values are gone leaving young people with no real role models....you get the picture.
Marriage as defined between a man and woman is critical for society to remain in tact. to change it is to open a pandora's box. I have always admitted that I am a nominal Catholic but the fact is that I believe we need to move back to more prayer. finally suffering is an important aspect of humanity. Ask anyone who has gone through a serious illness and they will tell you it made them a better person.

Our society is upside down and we need more people like Santorum to speak up
or we will follow Rome into history

You are misrepresenting and blatantly lying about Santorum. When did he ever say gays are animals.

You are becoming deranged. That's your clarification.

More blatant lying about Santorum. More derangement from the "uber"-left.

You are crazed in your lying about Santorum.

Great post !!!

I, also was struck, that his theme would be well received a number of years ago, but we are now a society that enables those that want the gratification and are so used to being able to do whatever they want with absolutely no recourse.

Are you going to send me another crying PM if I call you out for your childish name calling again. Your pathetic name calling is your imbecilic calling card.

Your post above if so full of crap, and only a moron would infer what you have from my support of Santorum, and nothing else. Karma going to bite you, mark my words.

Please all refrain from directing comments at a user but keep focused on the topic. Enjoy!

I just started reading this thread a short time ago, and as I read further and further I became more and more outraged by what I read and how shamelessly and blatantly those on the left were lying about everything like:

• party affiliation - If someone who constantly voices extreme liberal views and behavior then claims they're a Republican or Conservative then I'm a Wig of Cocker Spaniel heritage that's old enough to have been around to help in the formation of the party.
• outright and blatant lying about what Santorum stated in the video and the article out of CBS. Santorum never once mentioned blacks in his comments and I listened through it twice. It was falsely injected into the article by the CBS writer and the libbers on here were more than happy to continue the lie and even embellish it to the extreme.
• a series of Santorum quotes that were taken out of context so they could be spun into a meaning that does not reflect his views accurately but rather to use the quotes to promote their own agenda and source of bashing.

There is more but this will suffice since I'm up way later than I want to be because of this disgusting, dishonest cruelty and nonsense.

I joined TOTV well over a year ago and I resisted until a few days ago from joining the political forum because I didn't want to get into political discussions. I was also told how nasty the Democrats could get on it, but didn't really think much about it. What triggered me to join was someone's asking how to join the Political Forum along with a comment from Moderator that I felt was not right, personally annoying but at the same time not offensive. So I figured that I've taken enough of left wing subtle political digs that they kept getting away with and it was time to take a look see.

What I found was that there are good people there, but there were enough trouble makers and instigators that want nothing more than to outright lie, deceive, spin and carefully take things to the limit of respectfulness, and sometime beyond, to discredit those who have views that don't align with theirs. I've even been falsely accused of being disrespectful by one of those left-wing people I am talking about. In several years, especially the last four, of following politics on the national level, I've seen many instenses of lying two-faced deceitful politicians that were deceiving the American people to get their agenda moved forward. But what I've found here has outdone them all. Their mitigated gall and imaturity really bakes the cake!

So it's after 2 AM now and I'm going to conclude this message by saying thank you to all the good honest people that have said some really nice things to me. And to the disrespectful troublemakers, you'll have to read my mind because what I'm thinking wouldn't be proper to post here. Finally, I apologize to those that have asked me not to leave, but my health has to take precedence over this forum. Once I post this message I will be unsubscribing for at least a while, and go back to the less annoying stuff that occasionally pops into view in the other forums.

Since I won't be on this thread anymore, you'll have to pm me if you have any comments. If you're one of the left-wingers I'm refering to, you don't need to contact me since and I'll probably just delete it because I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an apology, but I won't hold my breath waiting. If you get nasty or disrespectful, I will definitely forward your message and a complaint to Admin.

So long and see you good people on the other side.

Santorum is a bigot and anyone that would support him is a supporter of bigotry.

I don't agree with Obama on so many issues pertaining to spending, but you have to give him a thumbs up on being a good Christian man when compared to Santorum the bigot.

I desperately want to vote for Romney and if exposing Santorum's bigotry helps that action, then so be it. My fellow Christian conservatives wish to condemn me because I have an opinion. You ask me to prove Santorum is a bigot, REALLY. Pull you head out of the FOX News channel and into the rest of the media and see the light. Maybe your right and I am a man without a party to match my personality. The True conservative box is a small area. Their vision of a perfect world is:

NO GAY PEOPLE
NO NON-CHRISTIANS
NO ONE WITH AN OPEN MIND

5 OF THE SIX PAC ARE BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.

To be precise, he compares gay sex to bestiality.

A longer quote of his that shows his blind spot when it comes to sex:

Consensual sex outside of marriage is not bigamy. Marrying more than one person is.

Consensual sex is not polygamy. It could be polyamory depending on how you really feel about them.

Incest is another matter entirely and usually only prosecuted when one of the 'partners' is underage.

Oh, but if the CHURCH is doing it, he takes a completely different attitude:
He participates in what my semantics teacher taught as as one of the seven tactics that loses debates - in this case "reducto ad absurdum" - reducing to the absurd:
Having that kind of relationship with five people could actually probably be handled by the legal entity known as a "corporation".

But back to the point. In NH, Santorum denied comparing homosexuality to bestiality. Well, boys and girls, here it is - from a 2003 USA Today interview:

The "it's not" referred to "marriage". Later on, when pressed, Santorum has tried to say the "it's not" referred to homosexuality. But when you look at his other quotes, the pattern is clear.