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A Repeated Story. Why?
The below-stated address is a short video on Obama's background. Many will say it is rubbish. Why does this story continue to be repeated? Why are there so many lawsuits to have this information released. And more importantly why has Obama taken such a guarded and defensive posture and remained silent? Exactly who is Barack Obama? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGmZ0fhH5fM&feature=related]Obama -The One Video - YouTube[/ame] |
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Your attitude is what got us here. Nobody wanted to know because he as such a nice guy and talked so pretty. I have read BOTH his autobiographies, researched as best I could the Chicago papers and HIS BACKGROUND is the story, but nobody is interested...isn't that a shame !!!! We elected a man of shadows as President. Read his books, read about him...then you begin to understand what we have the Supreme Court looking at things he does !! OR continue as you are...he is counting on you |
Who is Barack Obama? Well, he's the President of the United States, silly. :doh:
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One thing I will never understand is that when he was running for pres. in 08 his platform was change or change you can believe in. Never once was it said what he planned to change. How can an intelligent person vote for anyone like that . Yes you can say Romney or whom ever are the same but most people never heard of obama before 08. I dont get it and now they want him in again knowing his agenda. He still does not stand for anything. Yes he is a fake.
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So, you are fine with a President suing a state because they are trying to enforce the federal law ? AND, not sure what you "heard" but have you read his autobiographies ? Have you researched his days in Chicago ? Are you aware of who his associates were in Chicago ? Are you aware of how close he and Wright were ? Since you say you have heard it all before, BECAUSE THE PRESS DID NOT COVER IT...you must have and still dont care. Have you ever heard of a President who had his grades in college SEALED ? So, you are ok with a President that IN THREE SHORT YEARS, has told WHOPPERS, not the little things they say in campaigns and then cannot get done...I mean WHOPPERS......on healthcare...that has many lies in it.....how about the Patriot act ? How about the war on terrorism ? How about the trying of terrorist suspects ? He actually MADE FUN of the previous administrations on many of those things...made jokes. You are ok with all of that ? So you are just fine with a President who IN THREE YEARS now talks about Romney flip flops and in those short amount of years had just about doubled his position changes...WHILE PRESIDENT. IN SUCH A SHORT TIME. So you are happy with a President who in the last week was going to spend 8 BILLION dollars of your money on an "experiment" that NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON thought was needed, and then we find out it is only to cover the hidden costs of the healthcare bill and make sure it doesnt come out before the election. Tell me, in your lifetime, has there ever ever been a President who spent his three years in the WH basically campaigning at every opportunity ? If you are ok with all of this, then you should worship him !! I am sure he is a nice guy...and a great speaker, but his many shortcomings are simply stunning but his pretty words overcome all of that for you guys. Got to tell you, you standards are much lower than mine when it comes to the President ! |
Well, Bucco, you will have your choice in November as to who you vote for President.
I am sure we will be seeing a negative campaign from both Republicans and Democrats here in Florida and the television ads will be overwhelming. After both sides have their campaign, the voters will decide. |
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I have not see any radical African-American statements made by Barack Obama. Even if Reverend Wright did mentor Bracak Obama; the teacher is not the student, nor is the student the teacher. I do not worship any politician. Unless you see Jesus perhaps as a politician. He was kind of an anti-politician, at least, according to some of his biographers. Obama's flip-flops look like they are maturing to reflect the political realities of working with Congress as well as the many responsibilities a POTUS has. Mitt Romney's flip-flops look like he just wants to be President. He'll flip-flop in the future probably quite a lot more than Obama has if he becomes President. |
Please keep your comments from becoming personal to/about another member and stay on the topic.
Thank you. |
We can't make this same mistake twice. Voters must demand that Mitt Romney release his tax returns for at least the last ten years immediately. What is he hiding? Why all the off-shore bank accounts? President Obama's college grades probably don't effect the way he governs, but Romney's investments could certainly present a conflict of interest.
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But!!; if you don't think money and influence and financial considerations can get someone into Harvard who wouldn't ordinarily make the cut, I think that's incredibly naive. |
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In your note, I notice you did not mention all the ACTIONS taken as president....guess they are not important. Next item...I suggest you READ about the relationship with Wright...READ his books. Let me understand something here...it is ok for the President of the United States to tell you he will do something, and NOT do it...that, you call "maturing"...as PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WOW.....quite a statement. And Romney when he changes is politics....wondering how you could possible make that distinction....that is incredible, especially giving the President a break in what he promised and what he delivered and the WIDE VARIANCE therein...forget flip flopping on foreign policy...he LIED to all of us on so many issues just beginning with Health care and THAT you say is ok. We are doomed with that kind of attitude. You dont even hold the President accountable..he is simply maturing.... but anyone who opposes him...THEY ARE accountable. Mind boggling And all day I will be laughing at your statement on "working with congress"...he had to pay off Democrats to get the fiascon Healh bll passed....he has YET to get a budget passed with the Dems controlling congress...OR could there be another reason for that. He has raised eyebrows in the last few weeks with his statements about bypassing congress......and so we go on and folks will defend him totally all the time, not matter what. |
I cannot believe the things that are being written about President Obama. According to one poster, if you do not agree with all the misrepresentations in the post, that you must worship the president.
Instead of wasting your time posting on this forum, why not go join the Republican committees in the area and actively do your part to get your candidate elected? You should know that posting anything here is not going to change the minds of anyone else. Take a proactive stance instead of your posts which do not help your cause at all. |
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Hope that satisfies you, instead of you having anything to discuss. PS...Anything you find untrue that I post, please feel free to post a rebuttal. Havent see that of you |
People should know by now where the president stands on the issues. They should be spending their time vetting Mitt Romney. There are so many unanswered questions, for instance his tax returns. He turned over 23 years of tax returns when he wanted to be John McCain's vice president, but now that he wants to be president, he can't turn over more than one year's worth. What's he hiding? Why all the off-shore bank accounts?
Did John McCain not like what he saw in those returns, or did he just not like Mitt? Romny's deals at Bain Capital need to be examined one by one. He has made his career at Bain the centerpiece of his campaign when he says he should be "congratulated" for accumulating all his wealth. Let us see where that wealth came from, deal by deal. My company was taken over by corporate raiders, and 44,000 people lost their jobs, benefits, and pensions, so I don't feel all warm and fuzzy about these Gordon Gecko's. And finally, what about his record as governor? He rarely mentions those four years. Why was MA 47th out of 50th in job creation while he was governor? How many times did he raise taxes? They don't call it Taxachusettes for nothing. How did MA become the first state in the country to allow same sex marriages while he was governor? We only have six months until the election, and there's a lot of digging to do to answer these question. |
The question posed in the original post was, "why does this story continue to be repeated"? I'd refrained from asking and answering the question. So let me ask it another way, "does this story continue because there is sufficient credible information that it merits further investigation"? If untrue it is a vile and vacious attack. If true it can only be with the support and financing of some of the most powerful and wealthiest people in the world.
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Mitt Romney was vetted so many times...actually he was vetted a number of times while Obama was a child and while he cavorted in Chicago. HOWEVER, to the threads initial thought process, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL if the campaign became a back and forth on BACKGROUND. That would be just great and I, for one, would really welcome that. |
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I DO NOT BELIEVE all that is in this video. I am more interested in the associations he had in his life....not a conspiracy theory, simply a fact It is very difficult to ignore your teachings and the basis on which you were trained. He surely seems like a nice family man....it is only those associations and what they believe in that bothers me a lot. He has shown in this term, especially in the first years of having no buffer as he controlled all of congress. I still have no understanding about how a President of the US facing our economic conditions at the time could possibly oversee this healthcare bill, except he knew he had to hurry. I guess in his hurry, he forgot his promise to the citizens of what it was supposed to accomplish. In reading the Chicago archives you get a sense of this mans ambition and his realization of insuring that you get the programs you want without allowing yourself to be "married" to them..thus so much mystery. This will not be a factor in this election as it was not in 2008, except on the fringes. As you see on some posts here, we will spend time vetting and questioning a successful man WITH A BACKGROUND. We elected a president with so little background and success it was just minimal. I do not see this party or this president pushing the background stuff.....would not be a good idea at all. I said in 2008, he was pulling a con...I still think he did. NOT in the conspiracy sense as most think, but in what he feels needs to be accomplished and his direction. Ever wonder why NOBODY questions HIM on flip flops...religion (remember when Romney had to have a special news conference in the primary of 2008) NOBODY questions the emphasis....total emphasis on federal government ? NOBODY questions him on much of anythng, but then again he doesnt have many press conferences to allow that sort of questions. If you question the shadowy past of our President, you immediately are subject to the claims of conspiracy theorists, etc, NONE of which is true....I am not a "birther" whatever the hey that is.....but I do think...there are so many associations in his past that are so questionable. But as one poster said this morning...then go out and stop his reelection and that surely would be my goal...but much rather would like to get to discuss issues right smack on and hear the explanations for what he does, BUT nobody wants to do that.....nobody seems to care about that. EVERYONE just wants to call out names...it is a shame..not what I grew up on.....cannot wait until the debates. Obama might win them handily although I doubt it very much, but at least the two men can talk about ACCOMPLISHMENTS. Obama did not need to do that in 2008..he had never really had a"job" of consequence to defend...now he does...but at least he will need to talk about EVENTS and not theories, and be asked about what he has done. |
if you repeat something over and over the masses will begin to believe it just ask the nazis.
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Why are you wasting your own time posting on this forum if you believe what you say?????? a little reality check, please. |
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Just so you know Obama's father birth certificate says he (father) is Arab and not African. Obama is 50% white, 12.5% African 43.50% Arab, as his father's family is mainly Arabs from Kenya. His father's claim is 87.5% Arabic and 12.5% African Obama claims his name is Swahili b ut it is actually Arabic "Baraka" (meaning blessed) Hussein is also Arabic....just saying |
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It is simply amazing anyone can ask "who is Barack Obama". The guy campaigned for 23 months !!!!! 23 months !!!! He was asked every conceivable question under the sun - and he answered every single one. Now, you may not have liked all of his answers, but he answered each and every questions.
I lost track of how many debates he participated in - and then when only he and Hillary were left, they had a series of debates that garnered huge TV prime time ratings. So, after 23 months of campaigning and many debates, how can anyone possibly ask "who is Barack Obama"? Either you weren't paying attention or you were too overwhelmed by the sheer lunacy of the R's VP choice. The FACT is Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate. His polling numbers indicates he is much preferred over Etch-A-Sketch and will, in all probability, be overwhelmingly reelected, as he should be. |
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I ram more concerned that a guy could hold the most important position in the world and have these allegations hanging out there Its the process i am concerned about as it appears flawed |
Some of the posters on this forum call the liberal element "Communists". The antithesis of communism are the nazis. I would never call anyone a nazi. Why do they get away with calling a liberal a communist?
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BE VERY VERY SPECIFIC !!! |
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Secondly, I am not wasting my time posting on this forum. I am expressing my viewpoints and trying to enlighten others who may not know what is happening. I am not trying to change their viewpoints - but if someone's viewpoints are changed based upon my postings, so much the better. I do thank you for your interest. |
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Obama is NOT....repeat...NOT even close...governing as he said he would. He lied on each and every aspect of the health care bill including the actual goal of his "reform". In addition on that bill he wasted time that could have been spent on JOBS. NOT "exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate. As a result of his arrogance there are folks who will suffer greatly. He ridiculed the past administration on Patriot act......and kept it totally 100% in place....NOT "exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." He absolutely condemned that past administration on the rendition of terror suspects...I mean he was really strong. Now he still has renditions and no chance of it ever being changes....NOT "exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." As a candidate, he detailed a very detailed plan for NASA and said he would make NASA a priority again. He killed the constellation program....NOT "exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." He said over and over again as he ridiculed the last administration that he would close GTMO.....it is still open......NOT "exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." Have not mentioned his now embracing super Pac's which to him was taboo.....and many many more. So he is NOT even close and if you want to discuss the economics then the list gets so big. How about NO BUDGET in a democratic senate..... Anyway, you feel he has been vetted...good for you. There have been BOOKS written on how he was NOT vetted. Not books by Republicans or right wing folks, BUT by media folks. Hope this time around he will get vetted but as someone mentioned on here...I did not see it or read it but the recent book or tv special on the last campaign had McCain saying he would not campaign in that manner....ie, bringing up some of the more uncomfortable stuff. Actually, that may not be necessary as the last time he had NO record at all of any kind on anything. This time he does. I realize this will be met by sarcasm but this is not a game.....the polls do not matter.....his supporters on this forum NEVER EVER EVER discuss issues and in order to discuss politics, or the world, or the leaders, you need to discuss issues. I believe that this lack of issue driven focus will show up in the campaign, although unlike you I dont predict anything. I have read so much more than you would ever think of reading on this man and all I know, other than the last years as president is shadows...perhaps not by design, but shadows in his life. I will anticipate your posting of polls IF THEY FAVOR OBAMA.....I will anticipate your posting as much negative things about Romney personally as you can get your hands on.....I will anticipate some creative names being posted for Romney, his family, etc........but I would hope that maybe sometime you might post on an issue that is vital to the COUNTRY and not selected things that play to the "game", which this election, nor any election, is not ~!!! |
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On his maturity about the Patriot Act-- David Bromwich: Obama, Bush, and the Patriot Act Obama and NASA-- http://mashable.com/2012/02/14/obama-space/ Obama and Super PACS-- Rodell Mollineau's response to 'Obama super PAC - hypocritical or common sense?' - The Arena | POLITICO.COM Obama's Budget-- GOP-run House easily rejects Obama budget - Yahoo! News Obama and Romney's Health Care Plans-- Obama and Romney surprisingly similar on health care - baltimoresun.com |
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All the others are obviously ok with you !!!! |
This is kind of like the Bill O'Reily program. No matter what O'Reily's guests say, he doesn't listen and just keeps on talking over them to repeat his talking over and over until eyes glaze over. Well, what else can you expect from FOX NOISE?
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2. I listen, just have NOT HEARD ANYONE DISPUTE WHAT I POSTED...NOBODY so not much to listen to is there. What that I posted is incorrect...PLEASE POST |
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You folks are so afraid to admit that the President could be wrong, it is frightening. Do you honestly really believe that he is perfect in every way. I also would call you as the other poster to contradict me on FACTS...like a grown up |
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I have to be honest with you.....I KNEW all about the links you give. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE original statement. "Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate. You are supplying pieces as to WHY he changed. BUT he is not "Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." Not even close. I know very well that candidates can change positions and in fact the only time I would criticize the President on the list I gave is the health care bill where he openly and constantly just lied. But sure folks change postions, but the premise given here is "Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." You people think he is perfect and NEVER criticize him....heck, I oppose him and have made positive statements about him. Why cant he make mistakes ? Why do you people feel the need to make yourself look bad by claiming "Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." then when called on the fact that it is factually not true, you provide links that show it NOT TO BE TRUE. I get confused and you supporters do yourself no good at all by having that gut instinct to protect and defend everything. He is not perfect by any stretch and you are deluding yourself by constantly implying that he is. This began as a thread on the mysteries in his life....the shadows and they exist and then you folks need to get in way over your head with statements as if he were god.....he is not.....I have worked for and supported many candidates over the years, and in my opinion, this kind of idolization is scary. This statement is still NOT TRUE "Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." |
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"Obama is governing as POTUS exactly as he said he would when he was a candidate." That statement seems overstated and simplistic. I doubt if any US President has ever lived up to all his campaign promises. You would need a King to do that and not one that is only a figurehead. Say someone like Henry VIII, Louis XIV, Queen Elizabeth, or some of the other Heads of State who had absolutist power. |
If all the liberals got is the irrelevant argument (if you can even call it that) of shouting "FOX News", you know you've won the argument and that you've been debating with children.
Somehow the most popular and most watched cable new channel in the country, and by wide margins, is considered a pejorative to the clueless childish uniformed left. Sometimes when you argue with these people it might be considered child abuse. |
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