The Rudeness Continues
 

I know I have posted about this before, but it seems that the rude behavior in this area is not limited to our busy season.

I had an endoscopy scheduled at the TV hospital this morning at 9:30 AM. My wife had to drive me because they didn't want me driving home after the procedure. She drove me in her GEM car which is street legal. We were heading east on El Camino Real towards the hospital when a car got right on our tail and then laid on the horn. Just about scared my wife to death. Oh well, no big deal, the person must have been in a big hurry....

After the procedure they gave me a prescription. We dropped it off at Walgreens and were told that it would be an hour for pick up. Since I had to fast the night before I was famished so we went for a nice brunch at First Watch. We finished our lunch and it was not quite an hour so we figured we would go over to Lowe's and kill a little time and pick up some things for the garden.

So we waited almost two hours before going to pick up our prescription which was supposed to be picked up in an hour. We went to the drive thru pick-up lane and when we got to the window the pharmacist said it would be a few more minutes but that we should wait right there. So we did. We waited about five minutes (maybe a little longer).

After we paid and were getting ready to pull away the woman behind us laid on the horn and started yelling. My wife thought maybe our door was left open or the trunk was open. I said I would get out and see what was wrong. When I got out I couldn't find anything wrong with our vehicle so I looked at the woman who had honked and shrugged my shoulders. She honked again and yelled something I couln't understand. I walked towards her window to see what she wanted and she said "get in your golf cart and go on your way already." Apparently she was in a big hurry and was ticked off that the pharmacist took so long with our order (or she thought it was our fault because it took so long). I asked her why she had to be so rude? Why did she have to yell at us and lay on her horn? I told her it wasn't our fault. She gave me the finger. At this point I was ****ed. I had just had a procedure, I just wanted to pick up my medicine and go home. She said if I came any closer she would call 911. I said "go ahead and call 911 you rude b*tch." I think this kinda surprised her, and she said she would pray for me. I told her to pray for herself, because she wasn't being very Christian.

The rudeness continues...

Cappy, I'm glad you were able to point out too her, 2 of her finer attributes. :clap2:

Unbelievable. So much hatred coming from someone who calls herself a Christian.

Pharmacists all around this area seem to be over worked. Clearly the individual behind you exhibited misplaced aggression...but then each of us would be better off channeling any aggression into something positive...like perhaps the woman behind you could have recited a prayer, a poem , a joke.

I hope you have better days ahead.

and be reminded when you are chastising the event as attributable to "this area" it is NOT an attribute of THIS AREA as you improperly infer.

You happen to run into the exceptions and then proceed to announce the entire area as "rude" which is incorrect and inaccurate information.

Keep in mind the other 99++++% that is just fine and dandy and happy and courteous......Thank you very much!

btk

so sorry that you had to endure what you did! something like that is not a good thing even when you have not had a procedure! guess we can be sure it wasn't a snowbird - and the f/t residents are taking up that slack! such a shame!

hope you are feeling better since the procedure and that all will be well from her on out.

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. I have rarely heard any horn honking here in the Villages unless it is in jubiliation like during a Villages' parade, golf cart driving exhibition, or in some kind of greeting.

I do hear horn hooking in anger once in a while on the more heavily traveled highways that go through the Villages like 441/27 and CR466 and CR466a.

I agree! Incident painted with too broad a brush.

it is ok now
 

i sometimes have rough days like this,,,, until my meds kick in, my wife worries i will try to baptize someone in the water aerobics class when they take my noodle... until my pills take effect. DONT let them get to you,, this is not a small town anymore, I am sure you have a wonderful bride, nice golf car,, and we have a nice life... my bride is concerned i will over medicate myself and come home with a new wife!

I am soooo sorry to hear this. I just got through telling people back home how nice it is being in a place where you never have to worry about someone giving you the finger...ugh...there is something very ugly about an adult...an older adult at that..giving the finger. I am sorry your day was filled with nasty rudeness.

Handled well by you. I am proud of you.
Yesterday at Walmart we saw a guy leave his shopping cart in front of our car (I had already taken one to the cart barn on the way in the store). My hubby told him what a lazy jerk he was. He responded with all kinds of profanities at hubby. He was the one who was wrong but did not like being called on it.

isn't it possible she wasn't even a village resident?

Either way it stinks she acted like that, just go home take nap after your procedure, relax.

But you were speaking with too broad a brush, 1 out of 90,000? :ohdear:

I've been around a few years. I've lived in major metro areas (Miami for most of my life, NYC for a little while) and tiny little Caribbean islands. I've traveled the world and I can say in MY OPINION that I have not seen the type of rudeness that I've seen IN THIS AREA. My point is, I've only been living here for six months and I have already seen more rudeness than I've seen in decades living in other places. I know Miami, Chicago, NY, Philly, etc. have reputations for rudeness and I am sure it is well deserved, but I've lived in/visited all of these places and I haven't seen this amount of rudeness in such a short amount of time.

Some of it seems to come from a sense of entitlement, but some certainly comes from a lack of proper upbringing. In this case, it seemed to stem from someone who had a deep seated resentment against TV residents (hence the "get into your golf cart annd move along" quote).

I should clarify, in the incident I posted above, this was clearly not a TV resident (I never claimed that it was, but the ever present TV Reputation Protection League thought it necessary to defend the reputation of "the area"), but someone who is probably suffering from the results of generations of inbreeding.

I am pretty sure that it was NOT a TV resident. Please understand that I never said nor implied in my OP that it was. I have no vendetta against TV residents, but I sure hate rudeness in all of its shapes and forms.

I don't think it was too broad a brush, this was not 1 out of 90,000, but something I have seen a lot of since I moved here six months ago. Don't get me wrong, I love living here, but I am constantly surprised by how often I see this type of thing. This is not the first time I have posted about these types of behaviors.

Jon.

Go and rest. You have been given an amniasic. I am not downplaying what happened but I was told I couldn't sign anything legal on the day following the procedure. It did happen and it was rude but tommorrow the whole thing may not look the same.

It may look not as bad and it may look worse tomorrow, but the kick a poo joy juice will be out of your system entirely and you will be your usual self..

I hope you were given a clean bill of health.

You are a great guy.

this might be the same woman you wanted to chase because she gave you the finger. you seem to have a lot of issues with women and road rage.

Gracie, as usual you are 100% correct. I could use a nap and I am sure tomorrow will be a better day. My wife, on the other hand, was driving during both of today's incidents and she is seething (she's a red head and has the temper in the family).

Oh, you must be referring to the last incident of RUDENESS I reported here on TOTV. The time where a woman almost killed us in the Barnes and Noble parking lot and then proceeded to give us the finger (even though she was the one who was legally at fault). As long as people are willing to condone bad behavior, it will continue.

I have no issues with women or road rage. I DO have issues with rude behavior, whether from males or females (I wouldn't use the word "women" when describing these offenders).

I would ask you to try to stay on the topic of the original post and TRY not to attack the person--try avoiding this misplaced aggression.

Captain Jon, you are not alone in your opinions! I have come to believe that this " rudeness" is accepted as "normal" in some regions, just not in the South where I was raised! Don't know what is "politically correct" but I try to brush it off and continue on my merry way! I love TV and the beauty, etc. more than make up for the occasional rudeness I find. They are not gonna ruin my day!

Come on Jon, you haven't seen this in NYC?

Not sure where that might be in NYC? :blahblahblah:

You need to let this crap roll off off your back and forget it, rather than hashing it over and over.

Thank you Wendy. I am happy to see that others don't have their blinders on.

I agree with you and try not to let this rudeness deter me from living in and enjoying this wonderful place. I do occasionally like to report it on TOTV because I get a kick out of people defending what I consider really bad behavior.

Jimbo,

Of course I've seen it in NYC. I expect it in NYC. My opinion (and I really didn't do a scientific strudy documenting and rating each incidence of rudeness), just based on my limited observations, is that there is a surprisingly high incidence of rudeness in this area, higher than i've seen in any other place i have lived for a six month period.

Where in NYC?: I lived in Battery Park for a little over a year and spent several summers as a young man living on E 93rd and Third Avenue (before it became a "nice" neighborhood).

Where in Battery Park? The nearest real residential area to the park is Battery Park City, which is a bit north of the park on the Hudson. I can't think of a whole lot else in the area. It's mostly office buildings. I could be wrong though. I haven't worked in that area in a few years.
I agree with you about the rudeness in TV. It seems worse in TV than any place I've lived. I can't understand the attitude. In this incredible place you'd think people would be without a care in the world but that's just not the case. Face to face folks seem friendly enough but behind the wheel of a car or pushing a cart in the supermarket that friendly smile seems to disappear. Seems that there's a whole lot of anger out there.
Another question, again not being critical, how did you know she was a Christian?

Next time use your cell phone and take her picture. Post it. Let's take a look at some of these kind understanding people.

You are correct, it was Battery Park City--my grandfather's company owned a condo there called The Colonade in the early eighties (when I worked for him there) and I had the pleasure of living there (except when they had to fly a client in and then I got relegated to the crappy apartment on E. 93rd).

I seem to see most of the rudeness behind the wheel (especially parking lots), in grocery stores (watching the interactions at checkout lines is particularly amusing) and to a smaller extent, the town squares. I also see lots of cell phone use/talking during movies at Old Mill and the Rialto, but that is another thread entirely. I have yet to see it at the rec centers, at the pools, or at the gym (maybe exercise diminishes rudeness/aggrssion?).

My wife, who is a nurse at the TV Hospital ER (and has worked at major metro ERs in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale) sees rudeness almost every night she works and says it is worse here than anywhere she has ever worked (in 20+ years as an ER nurse). Once again, please understand I am NOT saying these are all TV residents, many of the ones in the hospital are not.

I probably should not have assumed she was a Christian, bit i did because:

1. She said "Ill pray for you" during our interaction (I'm Jewish and we just don't say that to folks).

2. The curucifix hanging from her rearview led me to make an assumption.

What a great idea! Funny you should write that, I just got my first camera eqipped cell phone yesterday. Once I figure out how it works, I might give it a try.

"Thank you for sharing (and caring enough to share)"
 

IMHO, most posters just want to share their experience or opinion because it could help other posters, or they may want to know who else has had similar experiences, or they want to share this on TOTV as part of their personal TV experience.

"Active listening" seems like a very constructive response - I hear what you're saying, thank you for sharing and caring enough to share.

What seems strange, and discouraging to me is when people make it about the poster and not the posted topic. They question their "credentials" for posting such a thing, or dismiss or minimize the person's experience, especially when it does not reflect a popular or majority view.

I hope that posters, including new posters, keep sharing and caring in spite of that.

Bravo

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I'm not happy that you encountered a rude and impatient driver. Especially after having a colonoscopy, which isn't on anyone's bucket list.

But I am happy that the rude behaviour isn't being blamed on snow birds! :icon_wink:

Hey folks, if someone being rude is the worst thing that happens on any given day, it is a wonderful day. Rudeness may not be nice but it won't kill anyone and think how miserable a rude person must be to be angry all the ime. Enjoy life, it is too short! Just call me Pollyanna.

Actually an endoscopy, but it's never a fun experience to go under anesthesia.

There are rude frogs, rude snowbirds, rude snowflakes, rude renters, and rude non-TV residents (who live and work in the area),

BUT

There are also extraordinarily friendly and polite frogs, snowbirds, snowflakes, renters, and non-TV residents.

I am happy to see that you and others were intelligent enough to see that I wasn't attacking snowbirds, or TV residents, etc. but merely voicing my displeasure at rude behavior I have seen here.

CappyJon over the course of a few month I've read that you've been dealing with health issues and you have my total respect in regard to the way you've been dealing with these issues. When people are rude to me on the road I blow them a big kiss and that really rattles their cage.:ohdear:

In any confrontation I'm cautious because many people here in Florida are armed and quick to respond in anger. Some people do not age well, what was an annoying character defect while younger can become serious flaws as they age.

quirky, beautifully said. Unfortunately they do like to hide behind their anonymity and take shots at people. Sad way to live in paradise. :blahblahblah:

If you are kind you can't seem to stop acting that way.

If you are mean there may be something troubling happening.

But good manners are drilled into you when you are very young.

Honking at people is what you do to say hi where I was raised and not an act of impatience.

We can talk about it until the cows come home. There are differences in how we act and what we expect from others depending on what we have grown to expect.


There are no easy answers. Happiness usually engenders happy behavior.

My sweetie says that having the last word is just the same as entering a ****ing contest. No one ever wins.

Thank you for your kind words Duffysmom, they are appreciated. For most of my life I have always been a laid back, "kill 'em with kindness" type of lad and to this day that is how I try to live my life. To be honest, I seem to be starting to resent what I perceive as an increase in rudeness in the people around me and it deeply saddens me and probably explains why I am less tolerant of poor behavior than I once was.

Let me emphasize again that this cretin was probably not a TV resident and certainly was not an older person (probably 30s) so her bad behavior was probably not a result of not aging well.

I'm a native Floridian (a Miamian) so I am well aware of the risks of confrontation. Road rage is a way of life in Miami and it is one of the reasons we moved to the Caribbean. That being said, I am a man of principle and I believe in standing up for what is right, and I feel if we turn a blind eye to this type of behavior, we are in a sense condoning it.

When people on TOTV are critical of my posts on TOTV concerning this issue, I frequently ask myself how the other poster would feel/react if this type of rude behavior was aimed at one of their loved ones--their spouse, their mother, or their daughter. I would be interested in their responses.

Concentrated Ruditity
 

Jon, you are not wrong.

This type of behavior is more noticeable. I, too, have noticed a pronounced level of impatience and rudeness in this area. Drivers are really a piece of work! My wife and her friends have commented repeatedly about this kind of behavior in the Publix and Fresh Market by those that appear to act as if they are "special" so that they can cut in line without taking a number etc.

I do not think that this behavior has anything to do with The Villages or with the Villagers. However, it does have to do with an unusual concentration of seniors that are all, in one way or another, distracted by their own problems. At a certain age, we are all less able to keep all of the "balls in the air". Too many start bouncing and it is as irritating as hell. Sometimes this frustration boils over.

This happens everywhere all the time, but here there is an unusual concentration of seniors, in a small area, reacting to inconvenience and/or perceived inconvenience much more aggressively than they historically might have.

Also, because of this senior demographic, there is noticeable resentment by "youngers" against "oldsters".

It is not The Villagers. It is just concentrated "life" smacking us in the face.

Very well thought out and written. I am especially glad that you included your last sentence, because this seems to be what I was seeing today at Walgreens.

The Finger
 

The last time a woman in a car gave me/us the finger I looked over at her and started shaking my head up and down stating OK !

You guys figure out the rest. My wife told the woman are you really sure?

She burned tires away from us. Guess she didn't mean it.

That is hilarious

I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Thanks for taking the time to post your insightful comments.

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