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Guest 05-17-2012 02:41 PM

Proof of our "President's" foreign birth???
 
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The above is a pamphlet issued by Obama's literary agent in 1991. It would seem the cat is out of the bag...........wouldn't it??

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

Guest 05-17-2012 02:49 PM

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The above is a pamphlet issued by Obama's literary agent in 1991. It would seem the cat is out of the bag...........wouldn't it??

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

Great reading, isnt it ? He has lied about so many things...when do people wise up ! Never was a birther ever.....but the lying I was always on board !

Guest 05-17-2012 03:15 PM

I have been consistent in my belief that Obama was not vetted properly and convinced that he has re-invented himself. He was not qualified to run as president. He has aggresively fuht to hide the truth. The liberal media is complcit in assisting Obama in this lie

Guest 05-17-2012 03:16 PM

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I have been consistent in my belief that Obama was not vetted properly and convinced that he has re-invented himself. He was not qualified to run as president. He has aggresively fuht to hide the truth. The liberal media is complcit in assisting Obama in this lie

I could not agree more ! The election of 2008 was and will be considered a huge black eye for the media !

Guest 05-17-2012 03:27 PM

I see nothing new or factual about this tripe. Why don't you leave this trash alone and do what needs to be done with honest information about Romney and stop with the made up trash about Obama. This is just one more hoax spread by the gullible that the majority will see as complete nonsense and childish.

Silly boys.

Guest 05-17-2012 04:23 PM

Orly Taitz is suspiciously quiet. Could this be another one of those socialist, communist, muslimist, moaist plots?

Guest 05-17-2012 04:29 PM

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I see nothing new or factual about this tripe. Why don't you leave this trash alone and do what needs to be done with honest information about Romney and stop with the made up trash about Obama. This is just one more hoax spread by the gullible that the majority will see as complete nonsense and childish.

Silly boys.

how is it that you do not see anything factual about this item? on what do you base your belief that this information is not honest? on what you you base your statement that this is a hoax? how will it be made known that the information is nonsense? do you think richielion made it up with pagemaker or some other desktop publishing software?

i'd love to read your answers/explanations.

Guest 05-17-2012 04:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493891)
I see nothing new or factual about this tripe. Why don't you leave this trash alone and do what needs to be done with honest information about Romney and stop with the made up trash about Obama. This is just one more hoax spread by the gullible that the majority will see as complete nonsense and childish.

Silly boys.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ????????

Tell me where you saw this before ""born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii." ?

Tell me when you say it written by his LITERARY AGENT ?

It goes back to 1991,,,you never saw this before anywhere

Guest 05-17-2012 04:50 PM

Which literary agent? Barack Obama graduated from Harvard Law Schol in 1991.

Guest 05-17-2012 04:59 PM

Obama literary agent: 1991 bio was an 'error' | NewsOK.com

Guest 05-17-2012 05:13 PM

Yeah, I'm sure it was an "error", or it was a literary ploy to make the new "author" appear to be "exotic".

You can buy the b.s. Taltarzac, I know you got too much invested in him to see the forest for the trees.

Guest 05-17-2012 05:22 PM

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Yeah, I'm sure it was an "error", or it was a literary ploy to make the new "author" appear to be "exotic".

You can buy the b.s. Taltarzac, I know you got too much invested in him to see the forest for the trees.

Until now I would have said richie was too intelligent to buy into the silly birther nonsense.

Guest 05-17-2012 05:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493891)
I see nothing new or factual about this tripe. Why don't you leave this trash alone and do what needs to be done with honest information about Romney and stop with the made up trash about Obama. This is just one more hoax spread by the gullible that the majority will see as complete nonsense and childish.

Silly boys.

The Villager II: I truly appreciate your point of view; however your response is exactly what deceivers rely upon when committing such actions. (i.e this is so off the wall it could never happen") I have spent a lifetime investigating and otherwise testing the veracity of people and so I am not prone to go on fishing expedition nor tend to easily be led to believe conspiracies. There are so many inconsistencies colliding with documentation that supports Obama was a non citizens. In addition to the above stated material there is a student photo ID card of Barry Soreto afrom Occidental with the words under his phot "foreign student." Barry applied for foreign student funding ,etc. His associations from the time he entered the USA have been radicals with the funds and know how to re-write his history and the media complicit.

If this is all tripe why won't Obama release his educational documentation and that of his wife. Why won't he release a bona-fide birth certificate and more importantly why is he spending millions to frustrate every effort to get at the truth. This whole affair stinks to high heaven. But if the truth be known it would badly damage this country and that my friend is the over-riding reason Obama is really getting away with this lie.

Guest 05-17-2012 05:30 PM

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Until now I would have said richie was too intelligent to buy into the silly birther nonsense.

I could turn around your sentence on you, but I don't have the same opinion as you.

Guest 05-17-2012 05:33 PM

You folks are not getting it. This is NOT a birther issue, per se.

This is a report from TODAY on information that was on a pamphlet written by Obama in 1991 and the BIO information WHICH WAS SUPPLIED BY THE WRITER (OBAMA) is what is being shown as being born in Kenya.

This has nothing to do with any birth certificate at all...HIS WORDS....

Of course the constant changing of his life story (like the lying about his grandmother) sort of speaks to the mans character !

Guest 05-17-2012 05:40 PM

According to archive.org, a website that caches websites on a regular basis, the Dystel.com website – the official website for Dystel & Goderich, Obama’s literary agents – was using the Barack Obama “born in Kenya” language until April 2007, just two months after then-Senator Obama declared his campaign for the presidency.

Archive.org shows that the Dystel website used the following biography for Obama as of April 3, 2007:
BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller.
Obama launched his presidential campaign in February 2007.

By April 21, 2007, the Obama bio had been changed to state that Obama was born in Hawaii:.......


Obama

See the actual archived page from April, 2007 here:

Dystel & Goderich Literary Management :: Client List

Guest 05-17-2012 05:45 PM

Great post above...bump

Guest 05-17-2012 06:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493952)
According to archive.org, a website that caches websites on a regular basis, the Dystel.com website – the official website for Dystel & Goderich, Obama’s literary agents – was using the Barack Obama “born in Kenya” language until April 2007, just two months after then-Senator Obama declared his campaign for the presidency.

Archive.org shows that the Dystel website used the following biography for Obama as of April 3, 2007:
BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller.
Obama launched his presidential campaign in February 2007.

By April 21, 2007, the Obama bio had been changed to state that Obama was born in Hawaii:.......


Obama

See the actual archived page from April, 2007 here:

Dystel & Goderich Literary Management :: Client List

Garbage in, garbage out still applies to some items on the Internet. The Internet never forgets, but it often gets the facts wrong.

I am not sure how I have anything invested in President Obama winning in November that I know about anyway. I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Barack Obama got my vote in 2008 mainly because I did not want Sarah Palin anywhere near the Oval Office desk. She has true grit but not much of anything else in the way of being qualified to be President of the United States.

I have to see the debates and who is debating against VP Joe Biden before deciding anything.

Guest 05-17-2012 06:07 PM

And so there you go....just a coincedence !!

Now, with all the links that Taltarzac725 shares with us , he just told us to ignore them because it probably is garbage.

Funny how garbage seems to have a political slant !

And the timing of this garbage is simply amazing

Guest 05-17-2012 06:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493966)
Garbage in, garbage out still applies to some items on the Internet. The Internet never forgets, but it often gets the facts wrong.

I am not sure how I have anything invested in President Obama winning in November that I know about anyway. I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Barack Obama got my vote in 2008 mainly because I did not want Sarah Palin anywhere near the Oval Office desk. She has true grit but not much of anything else in the way of being qualified to be President of the United States.

I have to see the debates and who is debating against VP Joe Biden before deciding anything.

This, of course, brands you as a flamming left wing liberal according to our right wing friends. According to them anyone who dares to think through the process and not simply vote the republican line, is a socialist. Just thought you should know where you stand.

Guest 05-17-2012 06:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493968)
And so there you go....just a coincedence !!

Now, with all the links that Taltarzac725 shares with us , he just told us to ignore them because it probably is garbage.

Funny how garbage seems to have a political slant !

And the timing of this garbage is simply amazing

My links are usually to Wikipedia, reputable newspapers or magazines, or other sites. They are not to blurbs used to sell books probably written by a copy writer from some cheap advertising company.

Guest 05-17-2012 06:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493971)
This, of course, brands you as a flamming left wing liberal according to our right wing friends. According to them anyone who dares to think through the process and not simply vote the republican line, is a socialist. Just thought you should know where you stand.

I would hope that one of you who seem to enjoy making light and mocking will advise us which of the new information today you dispute and why !!!!! All is consistent with his entire life of lying about his life.

Guest 05-17-2012 06:16 PM

divert and ridicule..........................

..............again, and again...............the beat goes on.

Guest 05-17-2012 06:16 PM

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My links are usually to Wikipedia, reputable newspapers or magazines, or other sites. They are not to blurbs used to sell books probably written by a copy writer from some cheap advertising company.

First of all, WIKIPEDIA is certainly not even close to reputable.

Now, which links are you making fun of specifically....the one to the advertising firms home page ? The New York Times ? Who exactly are you mocking ?

Guest 05-17-2012 07:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 493971)
This, of course, brands you as a flamming left wing liberal according to our right wing friends. According to them anyone who dares to think through the process and not simply vote the republican line, is a socialist. Just thought you should know where you stand.

lordy, lordy coach! if SOME right wing friends DON'T vote the republican line...how will they counter our democratic friends who do the same thing! ;)

Guest 05-17-2012 07:57 PM

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I have been consistent in my belief that Obama was not vetted properly and convinced that he has re-invented himself. He was not qualified to run as president. He has aggresively fuht to hide the truth. The liberal media is complcit in assisting Obama in this lie

RUBICON...thought you might like this..

"Whatever you think of Breitbart.com’s punishing vetting process, it has exposed just how little work the mainstream media did in investigating candidate Obama back in 2008. Not all of Team Breitbart’s revelations have been election-deciders, but they have often been stuff that a simple Google would have uncovered. If they revealed tomorrow that he’d had his own cross-dressing-themed sitcom on primetime TV in the 1980s, I wouldn’t be surprised."

Obama's literary agent says he was 'born in Kenya'. How did the mainstream media miss this? – Telegraph Blogs

GREAT article filled with logic and not emotion......

"Look beyond the sordid details and the big story here is that this nugget wasn’t part of the wider discussion had back in 2008 about Obama's background and credentials. And why not? The documents were easy to find – the one that showed that “born in Kenya” was still being used in 2007 was on the Internet."

It is a great read...do not want to fill this with quotes but worth the read

Guest 05-17-2012 08:05 PM

Legal records from state agencies, backed up by local newspaper listings from 50 years ago are ignored.

A pamphlet written by an agent that has no corroborating evidence is taken as gospel truth.

Are birthers THAT desperate? It reminds me of other arguments - anything that doesn't correspond to a pre-conceived position is a hoax or irrelevant. That which DOES agree, well, that's the divine-inspired truth.

Guest 05-17-2012 08:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 494025)
Legal records from state agencies, backed up by local newspaper listings from 50 years ago are ignored.

A pamphlet written by an agent that has no corroborating evidence is taken as gospel truth.

Are birthers THAT desperate? It reminds me of other arguments - anything that doesn't correspond to a pre-conceived position is a hoax or irrelevant. That which DOES agree, well, that's the divine-inspired truth.

My thrust is the failure of the media..you make of it what you like. I am disgusted with a President who offers a bribe to shut up....a President who will say that Wright s problem is that he always wants to tell the truth,,,,A president who has all this in his closet and you and nobody seems to care, HOWEVER our media will spend days on Romneys high school days

I used to always say I respected this man...I do not any longer...and you folks who worship despite what has AND I BELIEVE, will come to light are the lemmings. Make light of me if you wish...your opinion carries no more weight than I and I distrust him not only in policies but as a man..he lies and decieves.....and you defend that....

I might ask you, djplong, who knows all.....where did the Kenya come from originally do you suppose ? Made up for some purpose...hmmmm speaks well of the man dont you think...lie in your own autobiography....lie about your grandmothers insurance. This is the kind of man you want in the WH ?

Guest 05-17-2012 09:17 PM

Drums keep pounding rythm to the brain!!! :cus:

Guest 05-17-2012 09:44 PM

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My thrust is the failure of the media..you make of it what you like. I am disgusted with a President who offers a bribe to shut up....a President who will say that Wright s problem is that he always wants to tell the truth,,,,A president who has all this in his closet and you and nobody seems to care, HOWEVER our media will spend days on Romneys high school days

I used to always say I respected this man...I do not any longer...and you folks who worship despite what has AND I BELIEVE, will come to light are the lemmings. Make light of me if you wish...your opinion carries no more weight than I and I distrust him not only in policies but as a man..he lies and decieves.....and you defend that....

I might ask you, djplong, who knows all.....where did the Kenya come from originally do you suppose ? Made up for some purpose...hmmmm speaks well of the man dont you think...lie in your own autobiography....lie about your grandmothers insurance. This is the kind of man you want in the WH ?

Bucco, your wiggling around like you've done again in this asinine thread is completely tiresome. You've spent four or five heart-rending posts raving about the President's 'lies' about his birth, then, when the whole birther thing is ONCE AGAIN blown out of the water, you claim your real thrust is the "failure of the media". It's time to admit you can't resist contributing even what ends up as pure BS, as long as it gives you another chance to rail about the the 'lies". You're emotions have taken over any objectivity and credibility you've had. And that's especially unfortunate for someone who seems to make political commentary here their full-time job.

Guest 05-17-2012 10:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 494025)
Legal records from state agencies, backed up by local newspaper listings from 50 years ago are ignored.

A pamphlet written by an agent that has no corroborating evidence is taken as gospel truth.

Are birthers THAT desperate? It reminds me of other arguments - anything that doesn't correspond to a pre-conceived position is a hoax or irrelevant. That which DOES agree, well, that's the divine-inspired truth.

It was continually part of the company's bio on their client Obama for 16 years. It wasn't just a pamphlet.

Government types in power never cover anything up?........seriously??

I think you need to look into the mirror to see the one with preconceived positions. I'm just saying.

Guest 05-18-2012 04:04 AM

Morning Girls.


Vote for Romney.

Wish me luck at the course today.

I love The Villages.

This Thread is a hoax.

Lets pray that Romney takes the high road and wins in Nov.

Guest 05-18-2012 08:13 AM

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Bucco, your wiggling around like you've done again in this asinine thread is completely tiresome. You've spent four or five heart-rending posts raving about the President's 'lies' about his birth, then, when the whole birther thing is ONCE AGAIN blown out of the water, you claim your real thrust is the "failure of the media". It's time to admit you can't resist contributing even what ends up as pure BS, as long as it gives you another chance to rail about the the 'lies". You're emotions have taken over any objectivity and credibility you've had. And that's especially unfortunate for someone who seems to make political commentary here their full-time job.

This deserves a response because despite the name calling, their is truely an element of truth to this post.

I began posting on here at the beginning...and the birther thing was even a "thing" among Democrats BEFORE Obama got the nomination. Then, of course it became bigger and bigger. I NEVER, not even once posted on the subject for a number of reasons. Since you feel what I say is BS and since you feel that I overdo it posting on here, you wont care, but I did not post because I dont believe in conspiracy theories and never did, and I was more concerned not about where he was born, but the influence he received.

Then, as the years passed, I still NEVER posted or commented on the birther thing because it just did not make much sense to me.

Even on this thread and the few that began yesterday, I prefaced many of my posts by saying I was never a birther.

Most importantly, I actually felt embarassed discussing the birther issue and on the post you specifically mention, I wanted to be more agrresive but again...I felt somewhat embarassd to be involved in that kind of conversation, and I have always felt the media was totally screwed up relative to Obama thus I went that direction.

You are right...I CAN see the confusion and I apologize, but after what has come out in the last few days, WITH NO EXPLANATION nor one being asked by the same folks who DEMANDED responses on Romney High School capers, I am now officially very suspicious of how ORIGINALLY this notation got on that pamphlet.

So, you got me on that one.

ON your other criticism and sarcasm, I actually enjoy and used to do it for a living....discuss issues and politics (believe it or not for the Democratic party). As you also know, I have pretty much begged folks like you to discuss ISSUES, but all we get from you guys is criticism much like this..personally aimed calling us out either for the number of posts, not liking the Presidents policies (I suppose that is considered heresy in some circles).

While you consider not only me tiresome but also this thread....just wonder how you would feel if...

Romney was found to have offered money to his high school bud to shut up.

Romney told those friends that their problem was that they always wanted to tell the truth

Romney had a pamphlet come out from 15 years ago that showed him born in Canada (after a discussion already had been made about that fact) Would you wonder a bit how that even got on there ?

Romney lied to the american people on his grandmothers insurance when discussing his plan for insurance.

This all after him lying to America on large issues (health care for example)

This after days of the media discussing the high school pranks of Obama.

Would you question the mans capabilities to be President ?

Now we are watching Romney being criticized instead of asking any questions of Obama !!!!

Again, I am so sorry that I bore you and my BS intereferes with something important in your life. I assure you that I do more than post on this forum.....much of it involved with politics but certainly not narrowed to just that and am very happy and I do hope that alleviates your concerns.

Now, if you find something I post that is not true then you call me out personally on THAT, much like you called me out personally on this post.

Guest 05-18-2012 08:42 AM

I really cannot believe that there have been so many posts to this bogus thread.

President Obama was voted into office by a MAJORITY of American voters and you are now questioning the validity of that by a book jacket? Amazing to say the very least.

Well, a few days in the Caribbean have cleared my head and I can enjoy reading these comedic posts without shouting at my computer.

Guest 05-18-2012 09:00 AM

how about a little more fuel for the "controversy":

» AP declared Obama “Kenyan-Born” Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

At some point there has to be a reckoning of what was said about Obama. If it was incorrect when written and when he was quoted then where is the counterpoint rebutting the alleged incorrectness? There must have existed back then the same caliber of loyalists who would be as quick to disclaim what was written as there seems to be these days. If he has a following today that will defend him, did he not have such a following in 2004?

Some where there is either a truth to be known or a lie to be discovered or revelation that resolves the chronic appearance of the issue.

I also think the term birther is an attempt to discredit via unflattering rhetoric. Similar to labeling those who support Obama as deniers.
I am curious why the birth issue is time sensitive. Why was it not as big a deal as a Senator as it is for POTUS? The most damning statement seems to come directly from Obama in the article above where he states "..I am not running for President..."!!!!!!

Like it or not. There is a reconciling needed....and we know today's loyalists don't agree.

btk

Guest 05-18-2012 09:44 AM

wow
 
that article really gives one food for thought....maybe it is planted by the Clintons? :)

Guest 05-18-2012 09:53 AM

Now that was comical!

Wow, the Birthers are still at it and printing out their own lies in a format that makes it almost realistic.

It is a good thing that American voters (excluding wubers) are savvy enough to see through smoke, mirrors, and obviously some flashbacks from bad acid trips.

Guest 05-18-2012 10:01 AM

forget the typical dodge and weave of today's partisan need to always try to discredit with negative flamming....where were, where are the rebuttals to the articles in print back in 2004?

There surely has to have been some loyalists back then too? Maybe not? If not why not?

Let's see if there exists an opportunity to get an answer to a questions asked.....for a change of partisan pace......if it is allowed.

btk

Guest 05-18-2012 10:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 494203)
I really cannot believe that there have been so many posts to this bogus thread.

President Obama was voted into office by a MAJORITY of American voters and you are now questioning the validity of that by a book jacket? Amazing to say the very least.

Well, a few days in the Caribbean have cleared my head and I can enjoy reading these comedic posts without shouting at my computer.

Please respond...

How does a birth in Kenya appear in a litirary agents bio AND in an AP release without any input from the party in question ?

And if you read the actual birth is NOT the question. It is a question of a man who has lied himself into the WH. And continues while there....we will assume you approve of that. Actually if you read all the links, the specifically say that they are not questioning the actual birth, but the concept of inventing things such as this and such as in his bio, etc.

Guest 05-18-2012 10:18 AM

Just think about it. How could a person make such a series of huge lies to get himself from being a foreign born person from Kenya into the White House? It is not even feasible to do that with millions of people constantly searching websites and records.

The Birthers are hard at work now before their candidate falls too far behind.

This is a time for common sense to start prevailing. Do not believe made up stories like a book jacket or tripe from Prison Planet.

I cannot believe some people will grasp at straws to actually think Pres. Obama was born in Kenya. Well, it is your right to believe what you want - and if that is how you believe, best of luck to you.


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