What is Obama hiding now?
 

Like his bud Eric Holder, guess he's not so keen on getting to the bottom of Fast-n-Furious... at least before the election. What are they hiding now?

You must be referring to his electing today to exercise "executive privilege" to not have requested documents released to the investigators.

Obama, his WH spinners and blindly loyal supporters will no doubt point out to us how he is doing something good for America by concealing now more information.

I can't wait to see/hear how this decision to withhold information gets sanitized.

btk

He railed against Bush for executive privilege while a senator...I mean he was insulting about it. He talked about how he does not get how anyone can do that, of course that is bunk....but how we need total transparency and honesty.

This is a man who does this all the time over and over......I beg the Republicans to have the ^@##! to make character a central issue of this campaign but I don't think they have the nerve !

Let me go ahead and add his quote for the record.

“There’s been a tendency on the part this administration to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there’s something a little shaky that’s taking place,” Obama said, referring to the Bush administration. “And I think that the administration would be better served by coming clean on this.”

He is from Chicago, What did you expect. He is only doing what he was bred for.

This is yet another reason we need him to be unemployed. He is a bad man doing bad things to our country. He always has a reason why when he does something it was for a good reason and is all part of the plan.
I don't want his plan and in context like Rush got hammered for "I want him to fail" when it comes to his plan.

They have to be hiding something. There is no up side to blocking this info.

This was President Obama's first use of "Executive Privilige" since being elected three and a half years ago, compared to George W Bush's six time, Bill Clinton's 14 times and Ronald Reagan's 20 plus times. FYI

Did any of those folks make fun of their predecessor and make fun of the actual process of executive privilege ? You always seems to forget what this man says before he does things ! He used this issue as a campaign point !

The Obama administration sends guns over the border to Mexico where they end up killing scores of Mexican citizens and a US Border Patrol Agent and now Obama is helping to cover it up? Didn’t' he just recently pander to the Hispanic vote by basically giving the Hispanic children amnesty (apparently 30 years old is still considered a child by the left)? Which is it Mr. President, amnesty or assault riffles for Mexican citizens?

Or…. Possibly were they working to create a violent enough situation across the border where he could ram through one of the lefts favorites causes… (besides aborting babies of course) a ban on assault riffles?

The left seems to be good at doctoring things to create situations in their favor. Maybe Holder should have enlisted MSNBC to help. Nah, they're no good at that either.

I think in respects to Fast and Furious the administration was after sheriff Joe but then you know how it goes. They didnt get what they wanted

And that becomes executive privilege how ?

These republican shenanigans that are being conducted today by Congressman Darrel Issa (R-CA) will just outrage and unite the democratic base. The house will vote to censure Attorney General Eric Holder, the case will go to court and will take two years to be heard. Keep up the good work republicans. Congress' approval rating can't go much lower.

I assume since you speak with such authority, you are watching CPAN3 where the hearing is being telecast live....you must be as you seem to talk like you know what you are talking about !!!!

Daniel Issa is just the ringmaster of the 3-ring circus he tries to tell people is serious business. He said after the Repubs became majority in house he would have a hearing a day. Why? Witch hunts. Guise of activity while the House does nothing. It's a sham and a shame....alliteration. :yuck:

You are also actually watching the hearing I suppose or how could you make comments on the subject with NO FACTS

He inadvertently blamed Bush !!!!!!!

"In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair.

In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder.

According to Grassley's memo, Justice said that Holder "inadvertently" made the charge against Mukasey in a hearing."

Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious | WashingtonExaminer.com

Typical liberal response. Save Obama no matter the truth.

Wonder if the family of the Border Patrol officer killed by the administrations pet project thinks getting to the truth is a republican three ring circus?

Or don't you care?

What was Bush hiding the 6 time he used Ex Privilege?

Now Cologal.....are you implying that there is some relativity to what you say to today ? If that is the case, we should just shut down and everytime something bad happens, say "hey they did it" !!!!

I dont know but surprised at you taking the same tact as others on here.....Bush did it !!!

While I am curious about what could possibly be so sensitive, and also curious about....well, if you watched the hearings, the administration (and by that I mean Holder, et all, not neccessarily the President) has been just plain lying in memos and testimony.

My biggest thing about this guy is again...he actually demeaned others...not just politics, he spoke of others who do this in such a demeaning way.....which is what he does and then rolls over. He has done this so many times with things that Bush did and where he publicly did just short verbally lynch him and that either continues the same policies or repeats them and we are supposed to just accept that blindly !!!

That is my biggest problem....of course there actually could be a valid reason, but he is playing everyone for a fool with his talk versus action and has for years !

When George W Bush started the program, now known as 'Fast and Furious', it was called 'Operation Wide Receiver'.

You obviously dont read or watch much else than MSNBC...I posted this earlier and it was covered on CSPAN...

""In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair.

In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder.

According to Grassley's memo, Justice said that Holder "inadvertently" made the charge against Mukasey in a hearing."

Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious | WashingtonExaminer.com


I suppose dealing with fantasy is easier than dealing with FACTS !!!

Thanks for making you post however, you simply prove my point !!

:agree:He had months to do this which would not have bothered me.Now it looks like they are covering up.Im from chicago and the hardest thing to find is a honest dem.Its a way of life for them.He is no different, from his deal with Rezko to his wife getting her pay about tripled around the day he took office in the senate.Just look at all that have went to jail 3 governors that were dems 1 republican ,sec of state dem,Jesse Jackson jr trying to buy senate seat.City aldermen dems by the the car load.For anyone to think he has not taken graft of some sort I have some great investments to sell you.

OK so what if W did start the program. He is not responsible for the screw up of the handling of the weapons. Those responsible are the ones in office...remember Holder? And Obama?

How anybody can reach back in time and try to twist the past to justify the current just defies any credible thinking.

How about trying something different? Offer an opinion of what the guys in charge at the time did or did not do.

The off the wall, off the subject, continual partisan view first is old, tired, boring, full of holes and just plain shallow.....and oh so redundant!!!!!!!!!

btk

Keep in mind that the poster who made the Bush remark APPEARS to have ONLY ONE source of news as most of what is posted is almost word for word from the various left leaning news feeds (read party lines) and you should NEVER believe those feeds on either side of the aisle because they NEVER tell you the entire story and they feed on folks like this person who believes everything they say !

Ridiculous!
 

I don't have any idea what the kerfuffel is regarding Eric Holder, the POTUS, et al--haven't read a word about it. I understand that the House wil proceed with a contempt of Congress "trial" against Holder beginning next week. That's after all those hearings and two unsuccessful trials of Roger Clemens for a similar offense. I wonder how much those trials cost the taxpayers?

I wonder if Congress has any more important issues that they might go to work on? A real immigration bill, a re-do of Social Security and Medicare, what to do about the expiring Bush tax cuts, some serious cutting of government spending, what to do about closing Guantanamo Bay, coming up with some serious energy policies, what about doing something about the crappy education results among our kids, seriously debating the farm spending bill with close to a trillion dollars in food stamp spending?

Any of those things would be productive. But "productive" isn't necessarily on Congresses' agenda. Not when some old-fashioned political bickering will have a great chance to get them some soundbites on TV. Maybe they could figure out how to get involved in planning the NCAA football playoff.

Do you think the House suddenly deciding to try the AG for being contemptuous of hem might be a tit for tat over Obama's executive order on migration last week?

Disgusting. If they want to try someone for being contemptuous of Congress, try me! I'm really contemptuous of the whole bunch of them.

The "kerfuffel" as you call it has to do with unimportant issues like the killing of an american border patrol with gun supplied by this country to drug cartels, the lying to congress last year by the AG of the country (retracted this week when he got caught)...all very unimportant things of course since the Democratic party is involved in getting gutted (which is not going to happen of course) but nice to see liars called and proven liars.

This of course PALES in importance to the use of a machine in a WAWA in Pennsylvania

PS... You surely would have loved the part where the attorney general of the country BLAMED BUSH for the program and then, of course, has to retract that lie also.

You folks have had years to perfect your bull**** alarms. It should be going glang glang glang on these issues. Mine is working.

The problem is that most people's bull**** alarms work only in one ear, either right or left.

KERFUFFEL???; selling high power weapons to terrorist elements in Mexico with no tracking mechanism that leads to the death of a U.S. Border Agent, and which the DOJ refuses to answer questions about, defying Congress, and refuses to release pertinent documents is a KERFUFFEL??

The President after saying for months and months that he knew nothing about this is now claiming Executive Privilege???

Executive Privilege from questions about something he knows "nothing" about?

Corruption at the highest level of our government is a KERFUFFEL??

Brilliant.

I think the true bull**** alarm resinates up and down the spine. Some folks will say bull**** no matter what their dyed wool tells them.

Never Will Be Convinced
 

I don't know ANY of the details of this case, Bucco or Richie. But you're not going to convince me that Congress spending a lot of time on this issue or case is more important that dozens of other issues facing the country. All this is is an excuse for political posturing and purposely avoiding spending Congressional time and effort on real issues.

If you can't trust the AG who can you trust? Anybody remember the Mitchells?

I can't believe I'm saying this to YOU, but that is quite naive.

My point was not to bash Bush but to point out Ex Privilege has been widely used before. I think 14 times by Clinton.

I didn't watch the hearings this time....I do know that Holder appeared to be copied in some memo's or emails. It appears that no other official has ever been found in contempt by Congress.

Do you remember Gonzales's amnesia?

Really don't understand what they need to hide....its always better to bring things into the light.

He's claiming executive privilege for something he's been claiming for months of knowing nothing about..............come on.........seriously.

Seriously. ;)

Things that make you go hum...

All the while, the anti-America pro Obama libs shouting we don't care! - we don't care! - we don't care!

the justification by pointing to others who did or said something similar is about as logical as claiming it is OK to go through a red light because the car in front of you did.

Two wrongs, except maybe in politics, do not make a right.

btk

I am not sure that a "wrong" has been committed, and either way, a "wrong" is often in the eye of the beholder. I would argue that your analogy is off base. I think the posters bringing up the number of times executive privilege has been excercised by previous president are not excusing the act as much as they are questioning why some people are outraged by one president using it and not outraged by its use by previous presidents.

e - do you not think that a.g. eric holder lying to congress is wrong?

The article I read agreed with your count except for Reagan in which the number was 3....just saying