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Guest 07-24-2012 07:12 AM

Obama - Socialist/Marxist !!!
 
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

Guest 07-24-2012 07:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

Can you reference these "Communist" books?

Guest 07-24-2012 07:31 AM

Rubbish. What do you actually mean by "communism"? It is very different in countries like Cuba, to China, to the Soviet Union, to East Germany. It depends a lot on the history of these individual countries.

Guest 07-24-2012 07:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

This is going to be very interesting when a printout of this posting is shown to the Republican Headquarters at Lake Sumter Landing. It will show how some of their members are extremists.

Guest 07-24-2012 07:36 AM

Apparently the tea party had a very productive meeting last night.

Guest 07-24-2012 07:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527339)
Apparently the tea party had a very productive meeting last night.

You mean a very propaganda meeting last night. barf

Guest 07-24-2012 08:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

Outrageously foolish analogy, even for an ultra conservative biased Republican.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:39 AM

scary to think people really believe this rubbish

Guest 07-24-2012 10:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527332)
Can you reference these "Communist" books?

Of course I can quote some books but I'm sure you won't read them!!!

Start out with The communist manifesto (Obama's favorite) Spread the wealth comes right out of that one!!

READ "THE NAKED COMMUNIST" by Cleon Skousen

read Obamas book "Dreams of my father" Hear his words from his own mouth. who he hung out with , the marxist professors, etc... Oh what's the point, you still won't get it??? Study the background of all the czars he appointed. (of course you won't) but a very good suggestion for those who are STILL CLUELESS.

Get yourself a nice glass of Kool-aid, a nice quiet place by the pool and start reading and AFTER you read it come back and tell us the similarities between the goals of the communists and the goals of the left wing liberals.

Guest 07-24-2012 10:22 AM

Of the above FACTS which one are you having the most difficulty with?? 48 million people ARE ON FOOD STAMPS. **fact** This is the Food Stamp President which means more dependency on government the better. fact** (get it??) The only jobs that were created recently were GOVERNMENT JOBS. fact*** GET IT??) Forcing homosexuality to be accepted as normal and healthy is being introducted into your schools (even Marion Co now with the 6 year olds) **Fact** Cultural and moral standards have been broken down?? Can you debate any of the above?? OF COURSE NOT - THEY ARE ALL FOUNDED AND ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! Fact based as you libs like to say!!

Guest 07-24-2012 10:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

It is rubbish like this that will drive independents away. Keep up the radical rhetoric if you would like to see Obama reelected.

Guest 07-24-2012 10:32 AM

If all the personal comments were pruned out of this thread, there would be nothing left.

Discuss the topic and not the poster, please.

Guest 07-24-2012 11:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527415)
Of the above FACTS which one are you having the most difficulty with?? 48 million people ARE ON FOOD STAMPS. **fact** This is the Food Stamp President which means more dependency on government the better. fact** (get it??) The only jobs that were created recently were GOVERNMENT JOBS. fact*** GET IT??) Forcing homosexuality to be accepted as normal and healthy is being introducted into your schools (even Marion Co now with the 6 year olds) **Fact** Cultural and moral standards have been broken down?? Can you debate any of the above?? OF COURSE NOT - THEY ARE ALL FOUNDED AND ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! Fact based as you libs like to say!!

Most of these issues are due to a do nothing Congress with the exception of the school homosexuality and that can't be pinned on POTUS.

Guest 07-24-2012 11:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

Could you please expand on the 81 Progressive Democrats who are communists, as first mentioned by Congressman Allen West? I would be interested to see if my congressman is on that list.

Guest 07-24-2012 11:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527323)
I will offer you a comparison to Obama's Progressive agenda 2012 and the Marxist (Communist) Goals since 1958

Obama - 48 million food stamp recipients - NO JOBS
Marxist - Get citizens dependent on the Government

Obama - Obamacare violates religious and civil liberty
Marxist - undermine the U.S. Constitution

Obama- Cut nuclear force to 300 weapons
Marxist - Weaken America through disarmament

Obama - Aid 81 Progressive Democrats in Congress
Marxist - Inflitrate one of both political parties

Obama - Use media to push Progressive agenda
M - Gain control of the media

O - Glorify homoxexual "marriage"
M - Discredit the "traditional" family

O - allow open homosexuality in our military
M - Show homosexxuality as Normal and Healthy

O - Force taxpayer funding for abortions
M Break down cultural and moral standards

For plenty more, start reading every Communist book you can get your hands on!! Everthing Obama believes and stands for is listed in these type of books. This is so simple (like two plus two) I cannot understand anyone who does not get it at this point. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

hulababy Marxist always deny their actions... that is how they are able to take away freedoms a little at a time without people noticing

Each of the above-referenced comparison brings to mind that legal latin phrase "Res ipsa loquitor"...the thinks speaks for itself". Each of the above-referenced examples speaks to the capablability of these practices destroying a morally free enterprise society.

Thank you for this information. One more thing notice how so many of these tactics are popular. Popular is easy to argue..deceiving but easy and most people like easy.

Guest 07-24-2012 12:01 PM

I might agree with that - if I knew what you were talking about.

Guest 07-24-2012 01:00 PM

Hulababy says, "Forcing homosexuality to be accepted as normal and healthy is being introducted into your schools (even Marion Co now with the 6 year olds) **Fact** Cultural and moral standards have been broken down?? Can you debate any of the above?? OF COURSE NOT - THEY ARE ALL FOUNDED AND ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!"
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Two things, Hulababy.

1. Dick Cheney's one daughter is a lesbian and got married a short time ago to another woman. Cheney's reaction was, "Former Vice President Dick Cheney has expressed his delight that his lesbian daughter Mary married her longtime partner Heather Poe on Friday.

“Mary and Heather have been in a committed relationship for many years, and we are delighted that they were able to take advantage of the opportunity to have that relationship recognized,” Cheney and his wife, Lynne, said in a statement.

2. Astronaut - and national hero - Sally Ride, who died yesterday at age 61 from cancer - was a lesbian. She and her partner had a committed relationship for 27 years.

What reaction would you have, Hulababy, if your son or daughter said they were going to marry a same-sex partner? Would you still love and support him/her or disown them? Think about it and then answer.

Guest 07-24-2012 01:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527420)
If all the personal comments were pruned out of this thread, there would be nothing left.

Discuss the topic and not the poster, please.

Seriously..............Please note which side of the political aisle all these personal attacks come from. It's always the same.

Guest 07-24-2012 02:09 PM

Buggyone... If my child was a homosexual, of course, I would still love him/her. Would I think they were living a normal healthy lifestyle, noooo.

Guest 07-24-2012 02:22 PM

EXACTLY MY POINT. The Marxist goals are to BREAK down the family. They want to discredit the traditional family. One less father, one more mother on government assistance!! majority of single women will vote for Obama. Do you have to ask yourself WHY?? Feminize the Men!! Take away our freedoms a little at a time is correct so people don't realize what you are doing. Break away from religion, morals, and values a little at a time until you have a society that doesn't even value a traditional family any longer. anything goes, anywhere, anyhow. You've been brainwashed for so long now you think Adam and Adam is Normal. How sad.

Guest 07-24-2012 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527499)
Hulababy says, "Forcing homosexuality to be accepted as normal and healthy is being introducted into your schools (even Marion Co now with the 6 year olds) **Fact** Cultural and moral standards have been broken down?? Can you debate any of the above?? OF COURSE NOT - THEY ARE ALL FOUNDED AND ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!"
_______________________-

Two things, Hulababy.

1. Dick Cheney's one daughter is a lesbian and got married a short time ago to another woman. Cheney's reaction was, "Former Vice President Dick Cheney has expressed his delight that his lesbian daughter Mary married her longtime partner Heather Poe on Friday.

“Mary and Heather have been in a committed relationship for many years, and we are delighted that they were able to take advantage of the opportunity to have that relationship recognized,” Cheney and his wife, Lynne, said in a statement.

2. Astronaut - and national hero - Sally Ride, who died yesterday at age 61 from cancer - was a lesbian. She and her partner had a committed relationship for 27 years.

What reaction would you have, Hulababy, if your son or daughter said they were going to marry a same-sex partner? Would you still love and support him/her or disown them? Think about it and then answer.

buggyone: I see what you are saying as a one dimensional view. If a family member of mine were homosexual I would always love them (the person). However I would not accept their homosexuality and if they march in one of those Gay Pride Parades dressed like the joke of the week I would suggest they not visit me in the future as it would be too much to take for me.

The Gay Agenda as was posted on TOTV sometime back included a memo
in 1986 explaining how they would go about moving forward utilizing Hollywood to portray them as a legitimate and alternate lifestyle, etc. As you will note every movie TV show etc includes homosexuality and/or homosexuals couples. The obvious intent is to get people use to see them as blending in as all american. all it has done for me is to shut out such shows

Guest 07-24-2012 03:15 PM

Fear and loathing. :yuck:

Guest 07-24-2012 03:24 PM

To all the liberals before you say any more please study how Hitler took over Germany and destroyed it. That is where we will end up one day. You ridicule what people say on this forum but you really don't understand what you are saying. I'm not saying the right is any better but the way things are going this country can't last is that what you want for your grand kids if you have any. Please educate yourselves before you agree with some one just to agree. You have two choices basically don't blow it.

Guest 07-24-2012 03:44 PM

that is basically what the comparison I gave was intended to provoke. A thought process going on to fundamentally change America. To get them to realize that Yes History repeats itself Doug. That there is a REASON behind making us THINK that homosexuality is a healthy lifestyle however that couldn't be further from the truth. I gave a specific book title when it was requested and the goals are all listed in the book and if they can read the book and NOT understand what is going on then perhaps there is no hope for them. I did NOT start this thread with intentions of talking about HOMOsexuality as that is a topic alone we could discuss in length. It was an overview, a comparison I wanted them to see. We should NOT be teaching 6 yr olds about condoms nor should we be teaching them about Mommy and Mommy at home. We should be educating our children about the Constitution and what made our country exceptional. We should be encouraging our children to become inventors, entrepreneurs (which we leaned last week Obama HATES) Barrack Obama does NOT believe our country is exceptional. He wants us to be like every other 3rd world country in the world as his "apology tours" exhibited right from the beginning. It's all in "black and white" If it talks like a socialist, studies marxism, and is all about Change they will be the sheep being led to the slaughter. It's just a matter of time.

Guest 07-24-2012 03:50 PM

Still waiting for that list of 81 communist congress people.

Guest 07-24-2012 04:03 PM

Democratic Socialists of America
 
i think allan west was referring to the members of congress who belong to an organization called Democratic Socialists of America...i think this membership can be googled but not sure.

Guest 07-24-2012 04:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527589)
buggyone: I see what you are saying as a one dimensional view. If a family member of mine were homosexual I would always love them (the person). However I would not accept their homosexuality and if they march in one of those Gay Pride Parades dressed like the joke of the week I would suggest they not visit me in the future as it would be too much to take for me.

The Gay Agenda as was posted on TOTV sometime back included a memo
in 1986 explaining how they would go about moving forward utilizing Hollywood to portray them as a legitimate and alternate lifestyle, etc. As you will note every movie TV show etc includes homosexuality and/or homosexuals couples. The obvious intent is to get people use to see them as blending in as all american. all it has done for me is to shut out such shows

Quite a revealing post and not to your credit - but at least you did attempt to answer the question. The question was whether or not you would still love and accept your child if the child told you they were going to marry a same-sex person? You may have another bite at the question, if you wish.

The question was really posed to Hulababy who did not answer one way or another.

I guess we could add to the question, "Sally Ride was a lesbian with a partner for the last 27 years. Do you think she was an American hero even though she was a lesbian?"

Guest 07-24-2012 05:04 PM

Who was governor of the first state in the US to allow same sex marriage?
Ding, ding, ding. You are correct. It was Governor Mitt Romney. This must be quite a dilemna for all you tea party types.

Romney also passed an assault weapons ban in 2004, which is still in place today. Tough one for the concealed weapons carriers to swallow.

Romney also passed the health care law with the individual mandate, and polls show people of Massachusetts actually approve of it.

When Romney ran for the senate against Ted Kennedy, he was pro-choice.
What is there about this guy that tea partiers identify with?

Guest 07-24-2012 05:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527670)
Who was governor of the first state in the US to allow same sex marriage?
Ding, ding, ding. You are correct. It was Governor Mitt Romney. This must be quite a dilemna for all you tea party types.

Romney also passed an assault weapons ban in 2004, which is still in place today. Tough one for the concealed weapons carriers to swallow.

Romney also passed the health care law with the individual mandate, and polls show people of Massachusetts actually approve of it.

When Romney ran for the senate against Ted Kennedy, he was pro-choice.
What is there about this guy that tea partiers identify with?

Could the magic words be FLIP-FLOP?

Guest 07-24-2012 06:18 PM

I think the Republican Party would be ashamed of the rhetoric put forth on this thread by one of their own loyal members.

It certainly does not show a good side of them and leads the reasonable person to vote in the opposite party.

I know the Tri-County Tea Party apologized last year when one of their members made racially hate talk during one of the events (Chili Cook Off) here in The Villages when it was made known to them.

Guest 07-24-2012 07:02 PM

As I said earlier, keep up the prejudiced right wing rhetoric and you will cause millions of independents to move to Obama.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527724)
As I said earlier, keep up the prejudiced right wing rhetoric and you will cause millions of independents to move to Obama.

Independents are moving to Romney by a double digit factor.

Democrat strategy if failing miserably.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527501)
Seriously..............Please note which side of the political aisle all these personal attacks come from. It's always the same.

Blinders adjusted?

Guest 07-24-2012 08:25 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527763)
Blinders adjusted?

Don't need blinders because I can read. The evidence is all above.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 527724)
As I said earlier, keep up the prejudiced right wing rhetoric and you will cause millions of independents to move to Obama.

The above comment is important.

Call it Marxism, Socialism or Communism, they are all 'hot button' terms we've been taught to hate, fear or at least be suspicious of since we were little kids. So naturally a thread using those terms to describe the President has a high emotional tone.

History could not be more clear in proving that large scale experiments in communism or socialism do not work. They run counter to human nature by suppressing individuality, the desire to achieve and elements of free choice. But if we are going to be objective, and despite how much we have been taught to love and respect capitalism, in it's pure forms it also has proven unworkable. The founding fathers were certain the American experiment would fail dismally unless there was a government strong enough to insure all of the enumerated rights of individuals.

The United States has always been a blend of capitalism and socialism. Everyone understands and accepts that unless they are so frightened of the word 'socialism' as to be in total denial of it's existence. Law enforcement and the courts, public schools, hospitals, community centers, etc. are just a few examples of socialism, necessary and supported everywhere.

So it is no surprise that the two consensus choices for President in 2012 are both Capitalist/Socialists. The Republican primary electorate would simply not support a real conservative, so the all hopes are now pinned on a 'moderate'. The moderate is one who espouses a good deal of the socialist agenda, not the least of which is government supported and regulated health care delivery system. No amount of emphasis on his experience as a capitalist businessman can change that.

Blowing smoke about "Marxism" and "Socialism" doesn't fool anyone anymore, and when it is part of the agenda of Romney supporters, it makes others hesitant to align themselves with a candidate who appeals to such extremists.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:42 PM

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Guest 07-24-2012 08:54 PM

Romney more trusted by 61% to run the economy over Obama.

What do you think is going to be the deciding factor in November?

Game over?

Poll: Romney preferred over Obama to handle the economy

Guest 07-24-2012 08:56 PM

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Romney more trusted by 61% to run the economy over Obama.

What do you think is going to be the deciding factor in November?

Game over?

Poll: Romney preferred over Obama to handle the economy

Richie, you are savvy enough to know that polls taken now will mean nothing come November.

Guest 07-24-2012 08:58 PM

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Richie, you are savvy enough to know that polls taken now will mean nothing come November.

You guys always say this except if the polls bolster your own argument.

Guest 07-24-2012 09:00 PM

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You guys always say this except if the polls bolster your own argument.

I don't know who "you guys" are, but I am saying it about any electoral poll.


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