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hulababy 08-15-2012 09:56 AM

Banning movies in the villages
 
thousands of people want to see the movie coming out this Friday called 2016. Hundreds have called Rialto theater because they were told it's being released Friday and they have told us they don't know if they will show it.

Since when do we ban movies being shown in the villages??? This is a politcal movie and this is America where we should have the RIGHT to see what we choose to see. We should NOT have to travel to theaters such as Orlando, Ocala, Gainsville etc.. to see popular movies.

I am a conservative so I want to see this movie as it is about the destruction of america by this President. I also feel though that the democrats and or liberals have a right to see their movies. Bring them all in if they are popular. why were we not allowed to see "The Hunger games"

I love the villages but do not want to live in a country (no less a retirement community) where movies / books etc... are banned!!

Bring in 2016!! Everyone call Rialto and express your opinion. Everyone has a right to see what they choose to see and the box office receipts will determine if it is successful. This movie is brought to us by the same producers of Shindlers List. Instead of playing spiderman in two theaters bring in 2016. Instead of Marigold which has been out for months now bring in 2016.

With all the "garbage movies" playing out there and/ or the movies for kids they need to make sure movies made for adults are always shown. Others opinions??

pooh 08-15-2012 10:05 AM

Why do you think the movie is banned? Movie theaters don't always show what you think they should...and it is the same in other parts of the country. If they decide not to show it, and it is their right, you may have to drive to another city where the movie is being shown.

justjim 08-15-2012 10:15 AM

Hulababy: Certain people control the movies shown in TV. Also the Newspaper, Squares, Type of houses built, etc. etc. and I could go on. And that is the way it is because they took the necessary "risks" involved in making TV what it is today. Its a wonderful and beautiful retirement community. Enjoy! If the movie we want to see isn't shown here then I guess we will have to go to Leesburg, or Ocala to see it.

hulababy 08-15-2012 10:16 AM

it is too much of a coincidence that what is popular ex 2016, The hunger games, and I'm sure others can think of more movies have NOT been shown while 2, 3 movie theaters carry batman or for ex marigold forever!! Don't you think?? I do know for a fact HUNDREDS have called and requested the movie so why NOT play it. I head Ted is so bad many have walked out on it?? Let's see what others have to say about the topic. My point is just do NOT keep out of a retirement community adult movies we can decide for ourselves whether to see or not. Atlas shrugges is another to be released in Oct and will be a block buster. Will that be shown???

Moderator 08-15-2012 10:16 AM

It's going to be very difficult to keep from moving this thread to the Political forum, but, please try to stay on topic of the Theatre owner's policy for deciding what movies to show.

Taltarzac725 08-15-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 540856)
Why do you think the movie is banned? Movie theaters don't always show what you think they should...and it is the same in other parts of the country. If they decide not to show it, and it is their right, you may have to drive to another city where the movie is being shown.

It is playing next week in several theaters nearby including Ocala, Orlando, Tampa, Oldsmar, etc.

Do think it is kind of funny though. I saw Savages last week at the Old Mill Playhouse and had the whole auditorium to myself. An Old Mill Playhouse employee who stick his head in every once in a while to see if anyone was still in the theater; that's all the company I had.

hulababy 08-15-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 540862)
Hulababy: Certain people control the movies shown in TV. Also the Newspaper, Squares, Type of houses built, etc. etc. and I could go on. And that is the way it is because they took the necessary "risks" involved in making TV what it is today. Its a wonderful and beautiful retirement community. Enjoy! If the movie we want to see isn't shown here then I guess we will have to go to Leesburg, or Ocala to see it.

The point of my post is going completely over your head!! Don't think your getting the message I am trying to convey. Let's see if others do. I'm on everyone's side on this one. We all need to be concerned about what is being kept away and more importantly WHY???

hulababy 08-15-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 540864)
It's going to be very difficult to keep from moving this thread to the Political forum, but, please try to stay on topic of the Theatre owner's policy for deciding what movies to show.

am STAYING ON TOPIC of banning movies in villages (both sides of fence) the theaters decision on what and what NOT to show and WHY??

Taltarzac725 08-15-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540869)
The point of my post is going completely over your head!! Don't think your getting the message I am trying to convey. Let's see if others do. I'm on everyone's side on this one. We all need to be concerned about what is being kept away and more importantly WHY???

Doubt if there is anything more than a contract dispute here. The Villages movie theaters often have to show all the movies of a certain distributor even if they only want to show one or two of them.

pooh 08-15-2012 10:25 AM

Well, you might consider that they can't get the movie, at least right now.

2catsmeow 08-15-2012 10:27 AM

Hunger Games was not shown here because the Villages theaters does not have an agreement with Lionsgate Films (see other Hunger Games posts). 2016 is an 'Independent Film' from Rocky Mountain Pictures. Maybe the way to go if you want to see this film here is to contact the Independent Film Club and have them show it at one of their next scheduled meetings. Maybe the film is not 'banned' but the theaters do not have a contract with the independent film distributor to show their moview here. Just a thought.....

hulababy 08-15-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 540875)
Well, you might consider that they can't get the movie, at least right now.

If all the other theaters can get it they can too. also hundreds called and NO one was told they CANNOT get the movie. Other thoughts??

pooh 08-15-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 540866)
It is playing next week in several theaters nearby including Ocala, Orlando, Tampa, Oldsmar, etc.

Do think it is kind of funny though. I saw Savages last week at the Old Mill Playhouse and had the whole auditorium to myself. An Old Mill Playhouse employee who stick his head in every once in a while to see if anyone was still in the theater; that's all the company I had.

Sometimes, it's like that isn't it, though I've never had the entire auditorium to myself....sort of like a private viewing just for you! We've been to some of the popular movies and have had maybe a dozen to 30 people.....guess it just depends on how long the movie has been playing and what time of the day.

All by yourself you say?.....they should have given you a remote so you could pause the movie if you needed to get popcorn...there was no one else to fill you in on what you would miss if you stepped out for food or a pit stop... :D

Mikeod 08-15-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540883)
If all the other theaters can get it they can too. also hundreds called and NO one was told they CANNOT get the movie. Other thoughts??

Sure. The movie theaters are not part of your amenities. They are a private business that can conduct its operation as it sees fit. They do not owe you the opportunity to see a movie you want to see. Now, if they ignore "hundreds" of callers requesting a particular film, and they can get it, but decline to do so, they risk going out of business.

pooh 08-15-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540883)
If all the other theaters can get it they can too. also hundreds called and NO one was told they CANNOT get the movie. Other thoughts??

Who is the distributor? Again, they may not have been able to get it right now. And I'll say once again, if it's important for you or others to see it, it will be playing in other theaters in the area. We can go outside of TV for things.

lovesports 08-15-2012 10:52 AM

Probably many protested when the Michael Moore movies weren't shown. Or were they?

pooh 08-15-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2catsmeow (Post 540876)
Hunger Games was not shown here because the Villages theaters does not have an agreement with Lionsgate Films (see other Hunger Games posts). 2016 is an 'Independent Film' from Rocky Mountain Pictures. Maybe the way to go if you want to see this film here is to contact the Independent Film Club and have them show it at one of their next scheduled meetings. Maybe the film is not 'banned' but the theaters do not have a contract with the independent film distributor to show their moview here. Just a thought.....

Thank you for this information, very helpful.

Moderator 08-15-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540871)
am STAYING ON TOPIC of banning movies in villages (both sides of fence) the theaters decision on what and what NOT to show and WHY??

Hulababy... this was a general comment, not directed at you. We're on your side, trying to keep the posts on topic so that a lively discussion can continue in the main forum.

buzzy 08-15-2012 11:25 AM

There is no place on Earth where you can always get everything that you want or think that you are entitled to. I don't know why some people think that only in The Villages is there a conspiracy to deprive us of the truth.

mulligan 08-15-2012 11:29 AM

I could be way off base, but could there be a profit motive in there somewhere??

EdV 08-15-2012 11:40 AM

It’s no secret that developer Gary Morse (who owns the two theaters in TV) is a staunch supporter of the Republican party and he and his family are heavy contributors to that party and have hosted numerous Republican candidate rallies in TV.

2016 was produced, directed, and narrated by conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza, a former Reagan staff member and author of such books as Obama's America: Unmaking the American Dream and The roots of Obama's Rage.

So if your suspicions proved to be correct, what motive would they have for suppressing this film in TV.

Trying to stay on track and not get political, might it be that the developer has been accused sometimes of suppression when it was purely a business decision based on the expected box office take of a film or contractual issues as 2catsmeow pointed out.

gerryann 08-15-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 540918)
There is no place on Earth where you can always get everything that you want or think that you are entitled to. I don't know why some people think that only in The Villages is there a conspiracy to deprive us of the truth.

Maybe a bit of paranoia???

lovesports 08-15-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 540940)
It’s no secret that developer Gary Morse (who owns the two theaters in TV) is a staunch supporter of the Republican party and he and his family are heavy contributors to that party and have hosted numerous Republican candidate rallies in TV.

2016 was produced, directed, and narrated by conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza, a former Reagan staff member and author of such books as Obama's America: Unmaking the American Dream and The roots of Obama's Rage.

So if your suspicions proved to be correct, what motive would they have for suppressing this film in TV.

Trying to stay on track and not get political, might it be that the developer has been accused sometimes of suppression when it was purely a business decision based on the expected box office take of a film or contractual issues as 2catsmeow pointed out.

Good post!

gomoho 08-15-2012 11:55 AM

If the movie theatre can't get the movie than they should simply tell those requesting it "we can't get it" and that would put an end to all this speculation. The idea of censorship for our own good scares me to death and I certainly hope that isn't what is going on here. And please don't respond that the folks answering the phones don't know what is going one - they should make a point of finding out if there are that many calls coming in.

2BNTV 08-15-2012 12:29 PM

I would like to know the reel story. :smiley:

Sounds like a contractual issue as twocatsmeow pointed out.

lightworker888 08-15-2012 01:07 PM

Contractual issues
 
Didn't know about contractual issues until we moved to Stratford ON, a city of 35,000 with one 6 screen movie theatre. We talked to the owner, who also sits in the box office and we asked him about a particular movie that we were interested in. He said that he would love to show it but he couldn't get it as it was not with the distributor that he was contracted with. So it could easily be a contractual issue with 2016. At least Ocala isn't so far. From Stratford, we have to drive an hour to get to another theatre, but when we get there, there are 3 other theatres and two of them get indies so there is lots of choice and lots of driving. Maybe we'll go to 2016 before we come down in case it doesn't get to TV.


LW888

hulababy 08-15-2012 01:11 PM

I'm going to go down to Rialto tonight and see if I can speak to a manager. Maybe I can get some more info to keep us informed. With 80,000 plus we should not have to drive to orlando , gainsville or even ocala to see a movie!! We're the only theaters in the area.

BarryRX 08-15-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 541015)
I'm going to go down to Rialto tonight and see if I can speak to a manager. Maybe I can get some more info to keep us informed. With 80,000 plus we should not have to drive to orlando , gainsville or even ocala to see a movie!! We're the only theaters in the area.

Maybe you should have spoken to the manager before you started making accusations.

golf2140 08-15-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540871)
am STAYING ON TOPIC of banning movies in villages (both sides of fence) the theaters decision on what and what NOT to show and WHY??

Take a cold shower !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mrsanborn 08-15-2012 03:09 PM

Hey, OP. I walked out on Ted twice! The first time was after the credits rolled and the second time after my uncontrolled laughter subsided or maybe it was when my depends dried out. Not exactly sure but the people you say walked out may have walked the same way.

hulababy 08-15-2012 03:16 PM

just reporting what I heard about Ted. People said they hated it and walked out. I didn't see it, have NO idea what's its about so of course no comment other than what people told me.

hulababy 08-15-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 541086)
Maybe you should have spoken to the manager before you started making accusations.

I'm sure the manager tonight will be about 20 yrs old (ha) and no accusations were made. Only suggestions made that ALL moves be shown in the villages as we are all adults and can pay and not pay for what we choose to see.
that's the great thing about America!! choices to be made!! Bring in ALL the movies and the box office receipts should determine what stays and goes.
off to square now.

bimmertl 08-15-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 541015)
I'm going to go down to Rialto tonight and see if I can speak to a manager. Maybe I can get some more info to keep us informed. With 80,000 plus we should not have to drive to orlando , gainsville or even ocala to see a movie!! We're the only theaters in the area.


Save yourself a trip. Just turn on Fox every night and you'll get the same thing as what is in the movie in a never ending loop.

Bogie Shooter 08-15-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540853)
thousands of people want to see the movie coming out this Friday called 2016. Thousands,Hundreds have called Rialto theater because they were told it's being released Friday and they have told us they don't know if they will show it. Really, hundreds??
Since when do we ban movies being shown in the villages??? This is a politcal movie and this is America where we should have the RIGHT to see what we choose to see. We should NOT have to travel to theaters such as Orlando, Ocala, Gainsville etc.. to see popular movies. Banned, Really??I am a conservative so I want to see this movie as it is about the destruction of america by this President. I also feel though that the democrats and or liberals have a right to see their movies. Bring them all in if they are popular. why were we not allowed to see "The Hunger games" Democrats rights in TV, Really??
I love the villages but do not want to live in a country (no less a retirement community) where movies / books etc... are banned!! There's that word again, Really??Bring in 2016!! Everyone call Rialto and express your opinion. Everyone has a right to see what they choose to see and the box office receipts will determine if it is successful. This movie is brought to us by the same producers of Shindlers List. Instead of playing spiderman in two theaters bring in 2016. Instead of Marigold which has been out for months now bring in 2016. What about the folks that like these movies, Really??
With all the "garbage movies" playing out there and/ or the movies for kids they need to make sure movies made for adults are always shown. Others opinions?? A critic's view. Really??


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Bogie Shooter 08-15-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 541131)
Save yourself a trip. Just turn on Fox every night and you'll get the same thing as what is in the movie in a never ending loop.

Over and over! :a20:

Pturner 08-15-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 541122)
I'm sure the manager tonight will be about 20 yrs old (ha) and no accusations were made. Only suggestions made that ALL moves be shown in the villages as we are all adults and can pay and not pay for what we choose to see.
that's the great thing about America!! choices to be made!! Bring in ALL the movies and the box office receipts should determine what stays and goes.
off to square now.

By that logic, all the stores that people want should have to locate in TV and all activities people here want should have to be provided. Afterall, "that's the great thing about Americal!! choices can be made!!"

I suspect that more than 100 people have requested indoor pools and performing arts center in the annual surveys. How dare TV not make them available right here in America, even though people want those choices.

Oh wait, America has free enterprise too. :oops: So a hundred of us can't just demand that a business proprietor contract with distributors as necessary to give us all the choices we want. :rant-rave: And if said business proprietor has negotiated an affordable deal with other distributors by agreeing to show all of their movies, or has negotiated other affordable (to him) terms we don't like, we can't demand that said entrepreneur break his contract and possibly his profit margin because one group organized a phone bank to demand other choices at his expense. :rant-rave:

Darn, don't you just hate it when freedom cuts both ways.

mulligan 08-15-2012 04:09 PM

I think we should have golfcart access to saltwater fishing.

Bosoxfan 08-15-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 540940)
It’s no secret that developer Gary Morse (who owns the two theaters in TV) is a staunch supporter of the Republican party and he and his family are heavy contributors to that party and have hosted numerous Republican candidate rallies in TV.

2016 was produced, directed, and narrated by conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza, a former Reagan staff member and author of such books as Obama's America: Unmaking the American Dream and The roots of Obama's Rage.

So if your suspicions proved to be correct, what motive would they have for suppressing this film in TV.

Trying to stay on track and not get political, might it be that the developer has been accused sometimes of suppression when it was purely a business decision based on the expected box office take of a film or contractual issues as 2catsmeow pointed out.

:agree::BigApplause:

quirky3 08-15-2012 04:47 PM

I agree!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 541154)
By that logic, all the stores that people want should have to locate in TV and all activities people here want should have to be provided. Afterall, "that's the great thing about Americal!! choices can be made!!"

I suspect that more than 100 people have requested indoor pools and performing arts center in the annual surveys. How dare TV not make them available right here in America, even though people want those choices.

Oh wait, America has free enterprise too. :oops: So a hundred of us can't just demand that a business proprietor contract with distributors as necessary to give us all the choices we want. :rant-rave: And if said business proprietor has negotiated an affordable deal with other distributors by agreeing to show all of their movies, or has negotiated other affordable (to him) terms we don't like, we can't demand that said entrepreneur break his contract and possibly his profit margin because one group organized a phone bank to demand other choices at his expense. :rant-rave:

Darn, don't you just hate it when freedom cuts both ways.

:agree:

NotGolfer 08-15-2012 04:50 PM

I too am a conservative....that being said...Up North we knew a family who ran a movie theater in our community. It was a 4-plex. They didn't have a "say" in what movies came or not. The movie companies make those decisions from what we were told.


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