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EdV 11-05-2012 10:09 AM

Progress Energy re-opens golf cart access to Wal-Mart
 
While returning from a doctor’s appointment on the short dirt path that runs between Aldi’s and Wal-Mart (on 441) I encountered workmen from Progress Energy putting up a barrior fence to block golf carts. The path is on Progress property and they said the directive came from higher ups.

This affects Stonecrest residents too, but we can add an automatic gate elsewhere that gets us into the parking lots on the other side of Aldi’s if we get permission like we did from Wal-Mart.

Update: The path has been re-opened

graciegirl 11-05-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 576951)
While returning from a doctor’s appointment on the short dirt path that runs between Aldi’s and Wal-Mart (on 441) encountered workmen from Progress Energy butting up a barrio fence to block golf carts. The path is on Progress property and they said the directive came from higher ups.

This affects Stonecrest residents too, but we can add an automatic gate elsewhere that gets us into the parking lots on the other side of Aldi’s if we get permission like we did from Wal-Mart.


Help us here Ed. Is Progress Energy owned by the Morses? What residents in what areas does this affect. Effect? Afflict? Bother? Inhibit?

Bogie Shooter 11-05-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 576953)
Help us here Ed. Is Progress Energy owned by the Morses? What residents in what areas does this affect. Effect? Afflict? Bother? Inhibit?

That would be a big stretch.............
Duke Energy and Progress Energy have merged to create the new Duke Energy, the nation’s largest utility. Our combined assets and expertise will help us achieve more efficiency to deliver affordable, reliable and clean energy to approximately 7 million customers, both today and in the future.

Anybody who has been trespassing on private property will be impacted.

graciegirl 11-05-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 576954)
That would be a big stretch.............
Duke Energy and Progress Energy have merged to create the new Duke Energy, the nation’s largest utility. Our combined assets and expertise will help us achieve more efficiency to deliver affordable, reliable and clean energy to approximately 7 million customers, both today and in the future.

Anybody who has been trespassing on private property will be impacted.

Oh. I was gonna stand up for those Morses again.

Whew.

EdV 11-05-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 576953)
Help us here Ed. Is Progress Energy owned by the Morses? What residents in what areas does this affect. Effect? Afflict? Bother? Inhibit?

Gracie, Marion County Property Appraiser lists Florida Power Corporation as the land owner.

It will prevent mostly TV residents in the historical section from accessing Wal-Mart by golf cart. Stonecrest residents will not have golf cart access to Aldi’s, Lowes, medical facilities, and The Villages until we install our own gate between our property and one of the numerous parking areas behind Aldi’s.

It was never clear to me whether it was power company Wal-Mart property as the path was outside of the fence that the power company placed around the power equipment. Looks like we know now.

Patty55 11-05-2012 12:08 PM

I'm lost again, I always thought Stonecrest was behind the other Walmart.

Bill-n-Brillo 11-05-2012 12:48 PM

Patty, EdVinMass is talking about the Wal Mart on 441, not the one on 466. Stonecrest is behind the one on 441.

Bill :)

aljetmet 11-05-2012 01:20 PM

I'm on the fence
 
Whether or not to get a steet legal.
Restrictions of this kind can make a difference in my decision.
I'm assuming I might need to go north for awhile as stores will take awhile to be built where our house is located (south of 466A).

FYI, at this point we'll probably have a cart for me and a car for my wife.

Any thoughts?

Mack184 11-05-2012 02:04 PM

For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

renrod 11-05-2012 02:49 PM

xoxo
 
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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

If you don't understand, then none of the almost 100,000 people here can help you understand.

Madelaine Amee 11-05-2012 02:57 PM

I'm with you on this one ...............
 
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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

............... but, imagine what it would be like here if we were all driving cars! I want them in their golf carts.

Mack184 11-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by renrod (Post 577060)
If you don't understand, then none of the almost 100,000 people here can help you understand.

Nor do I expect them to. It's just NOT me. It will never make any sense to me.

eweissenbach 11-05-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by renrod (Post 577060)
If you don't understand, then none of the almost 100,000 people here can help you understand.

Almost 100,000 people who dreamed of a battery operated miniature car when they were pre teens, but whose parents wouldn't buy them one. :gc:

rubicon 11-05-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

mack184 my thoughts precisely. The only use for my golf cart is golf. However you have some folks who want The Village Lifestyle without paying the premium villagers paid. Its like not joining a country club but attending all the sport and sopcial events. wonder exactly how many non villager golf carts are clogging our cartpaths?

janmcn 11-05-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

It's a lot easier and faster "zooming" around in a golf cart at 19mph than sitting in a car stuck in traffic. Plus you're not polluting the air, unless you have a gas cart.

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 576951)
While returning from a doctor’s appointment on the short dirt path that runs between Aldi’s and Wal-Mart (on 441) I encountered workmen from Progress Energy putting up a barrior fence to block golf carts. The path is on Progress property and they said the directive came from higher ups.

This affects Stonecrest residents too, but we can add an automatic gate elsewhere that gets us into the parking lots on the other side of Aldi’s if we get permission like we did from Wal-Mart.

Daggone it. Say it isn't so. Since they detoured golf cart traffic around the new assisted living facility between Lowe's and the parking lot at the lab near the historic side of TV, I stopped driving over in my golf cart. The path is too bumpy and so much longer. I just hope that they really make good on their "promise" to allow us access through the property once the assisted living is completed.

I don't really understand where you are saying there may be a gate. Could you please try to explain it to me again. Thank you.

EdV 11-05-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 577069)
mack184 my thoughts precisely. The only use for my golf cart is golf. However you have some folks who want The Village Lifestyle without paying the premium villagers paid. Its like not joining a country club but attending all the sport and sopcial events. wonder exactly how many non villager golf carts are clogging our cartpaths?

Unlike Rubicon who takes every opportunity to dis residents in adjoining communities for accessing public restaurants, stores, and medical buildings that he thinks belong to him and other Villages residents, I feel sorry for the residenst of the historical section of TV. Many of these folks are on limited fixed income. As such, they rely on the discounted pricing for food, clothing and household essentials that Wal-Mart provides. Unfortunately they will now have to travel all the way to 466 for that, or use their car.

And for the record, one can travel nearly the entire length of 441 on both sides in a cart to all of the shops, restaurants and medical buildings without ever needing to be on an amenity maintained path. I’ve mentioned this before on TOTV but some people insist on ignoring this fact.

EdV 11-05-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 577075)
I don't really understand where you are saying there may be a gate. Could you please try to explain it to me again. Thank you.

Are you asking me where the barier fence is being errected or where Stonecrest might install a private gate to get around the barrier for its residents?

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 577081)
Are you asking me where the barier fence is being errected or where Stonecrest might install a private gate to get around the barrier for its residents?

I am wondering where Stonecrest might install a private gate to get around the barrier.

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 04:26 PM

The only place I can imagine is behind Lowe's, @EdVinMass. Will you put in a request to allow the residents of TV access to the gate?

Golfingnut 11-05-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

I get a lot of pleasure out of my golf CARTS. Give me the wind in my hair etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

EdV 11-05-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 577084)
I am wondering where Stonecrest might install a private gate to get around the barrier.

Any where inside the red box. It's right behind Aldi's. Behind Lowes is private property.

jblum315 11-05-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

:mademyday:I agree wholeheartedly. I don't play golf. I do not own a golf car. I have a smallish car that gets around 32 mpg. It takes me safely and comfortably wherever I want to go. I would never feel safe or comfortable in a golf cart.

EdV 11-05-2012 05:00 PM

In the meantime I think people will start blazing a new trail by cutting through Aldi’s parking lot and onto the grass skirt that borders 441 until another barrier is put up.

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 577093)
Any where inside the red box. It's right behind Aldi's. Behind Lowes is private property.

That area is a retention pond isn't it, EdVinMass? I'm trying to picture it and the map you posted isn't something I recognize. I suppose it is Stonecrest.

I hate to be a pain trying to figure it out. I appreciate your help.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 577089)
I get a lot of pleasure out of my golf CARTS. Give me the wind in my hair etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I agree 110%. I hate it when I'm forced to use my car.

The problem for the people at Stonecrest is that they can no longer get to Aldi or Lowes. I wonder how this will impact the business of Wal-Mart, Aldi, Lowes and the medical buildings between Paradise and Lowes.

Mack184 11-05-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 577070)
It's a lot easier and faster "zooming" around in a golf cart at 19mph than sitting in a car stuck in traffic. Plus you're not polluting the air, unless you have a gas cart.

Prior to buying a home down south we had made multiple visits to TV to visit my wife's parents and I have yet to be "stuck in traffic". I've never had any trouble getting around in my F-150. If I go shopping I want to be able to put my bags inside my vehicle where they have a chance of staying safe, and in the case of cold and/or frozen things, I'd like them to stay that way. If I'm travelling around and it's raining I'm not interested in getting soaked or riding around zipped-up in something that looks like a pup-tent with wheels. I just cannot find any possible use for a golf cart if you don't play golf except for one thing. It's easier to take one to the pool so you don't have to wrap your car seats in towels to keep them from getting wet.

Now my in-laws have one that's tricked out to look like a '32 Ford and they love it and have a great time in it. It makes them happy. That's cool. I just can't see it personally.

Now as far as being "stuck in traffic" come sit with me some afternoon on the Baltimore Beltway about 445pm and then we can talk about "stuck in traffic".

paulandjean 11-05-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 577033)
For the life of me I cannot understand this area's love affair with golf carts. I have a truck, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. My wife has a car, it works really well, it's comfortable and most of all it's AIR CONDITIONED. If I wind up living here 50 years (which is highly unlikely) I will never understand why you would want a golf cart for anything but a golf course. But hey..that's just me.

This why I love my golf cart.Having a beer in my cart listening to the music at the square. Try doing that in your truck. Cops will bother you,but not me.Pure Heaven.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 577097)
That area is a retention pond isn't it, EdVinMass? I'm trying to picture it and the map you posted isn't something I recognize. I suppose it is Stonecrest.

I hate to be a pain trying to figure it out. I appreciate your help.

There's a gate at 1159 Paradise Ave that goes to the parking lot of a medical complex. If you follow that parking lot you come to a big parcel of open land, that is currently being developed and through which runs a dirt cart path that goes to Lowes parking lot. If you take the road between 441/27 and Lowes parking lot you'll pass several banks, a little strip mall and a car wash. That ends up at another medical complex and ends at Aldi's parking lot. There is an exit at the back of the Aldi parking lot that goes to another dirt trail that ends at Wal Mart. From there, you can go on to another little strip mall where there is a Dollar Tree.
The little dirt trail between Aldi and Wal Mart is what we are discussing.
Here's the address of Aldi if you want to plug it into Google Earth: 13937 U.S. 441, Lady Lake, FL 32159

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 577107)
There's a gate at 1159 Paradise Ave that goes to the parking lot of a medical complex. If you follow that parking lot you come to a big parcel of open land, that is currently being developed and through which runs a dirt cart path that goes to Lowes parking lot. If you take the road between 441/27 and Lowes parking lot you'll pass several banks, a little strip mall and a car wash. That ends up at another medical complex and ends at Aldi's parking lot. There is an exit at the back of the Aldi parking lot that goes to another dirt trail that ends at Wal Mart. From there, you can go on to another little strip mall where there is a Dollar Tree.
The little dirt trail between Aldi and Wal Mart is what we are discussing.

Thank you, Dr. I understand all of that and appreciate your assistance. But, I was wondering where Ed is saying that the powers-that-be would put an access gate since, apparently, the little path between Aldi's and Walmart is now closed.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 05:23 PM

Google Maps

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-05-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 577108)
Thank you, Dr. I understand all of that and appreciate your assistance. But, I was wondering where Ed is saying that the powers-that-be would put an access gate since, apparently, the little path between Aldi's and Walmart is now closed.

Stonecrest could put a gate going into Lowes parking lot. That would also give them access to Aldi. I can't see where the Villages could put any kind of gate to get to Wal Mart.

This is a bit scary for me because my wife works at Aldi.

bkcunningham1 11-05-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 577110)
Stonecrest could put a gate going into Lowes parking lot. That would also give them access to Aldi. I can't see where the Villages could put any kind of gate to get to Wal Mart.

This is a bit scary for me because my wife works at Aldi.

Why is it scary?

Mack184 11-05-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 577106)
This why I love my golf cart.Having a beer in my cart listening to the music at the square. Try doing that in your truck. Cops will bother you,but not me.Pure Heaven.

We don't drink so that will never be an issue for us.

redwitch 11-05-2012 05:59 PM

So, if I understand this correctly, we'll be able to get to Aldi's via golf cart but no further, which means either taking our car or taking our cart to the Wal-Mart on 466. Not as convenient but doable. Personally, as long as I can get to Aldi's, the world is good.

I'm still trying to understand how Stonecrest is going to be able to bypass that little stretch between Aldi's and Wal-Mart and, if they do install a gate somewhere, how hard would it be for TVers to find a way through it.

downeaster 11-05-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 577106)
This why I love my golf cart.Having a beer in my cart listening to the music at the square. Try doing that in your truck. Cops will bother you,but not me.Pure Heaven.

You may want to look into Florida's open container law. One of our members posted here a while ago saying he got a ticket for having an open container in his golf cart.

chuckinca 11-05-2012 06:06 PM

I was just thru there at 5:20 PM and the fence blocking access to Walmart etc from the south for TV residents and Aldi's etc from the north for Stonecrest residents has been removed.

The Ho Chi Mihn Trail is open again!

.

jkpender 11-05-2012 06:33 PM

EdVinMass isn't the area that you indicated with a red box where a possible gate could be located also land that is owned by the power company. Could they run a fence all along there to prevent anyone from crossing their power cut?

paulandjean 11-05-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 577117)
You may want to look into Florida's open container law. One of our members posted here a while ago saying he got a ticket for having an open container in his golf cart.

I do not believe that. Everyone has talked about that poster,but no one knows who he or she is.I know from personal evperience that I have sat in my cart with my wife on many occasions drinking a beer while talking to the police and never never had a problem.Think that rumor was started by a non-drinking poster.

EdV 11-05-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jkpender (Post 577130)
EdVinMass isn't the area that you indicated with a red box where a possible gate could be located also land that is owned by the power company. Could they run a fence all along there to prevent anyone from crossing their power cut?

Nope, that highlighted box is Stonecrest POA property. So a remote access gate could be placed there. I have no idea of the legalities or the cost to do it. Also the non golf cart residents of Stonecrest might challenge using our HOA funds for it, but it's an option.

The lower left side of that highlighted rectangle abuts the Aldi's parking lot, the rest abuts the parking for the newly built medical buildings.


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