The Villages of Fruitland Park
 

The homes The Villages plans to build will include $220,000 Villa homes; Premier homes which will be priced in the $750,00 to $1 million range; and Designer series homes which will be priced in the $500,000 range.

And your point is?

I believe he was just giving people information that prices are going higher. No need to be critical of someone posting information.

I would be interested in your source for this information. $500k range for a designer knocks a whole lot of people out of the ball park.

Sounds good to me. If this is true, my $170,000 ranch 1 block from sea breeze will go up in value. I hope I am retired from publix colony by the time another 3,500 shop there

Take a look.

http://www.*******************/fruit...ding-villages/

cart path crossing
 

I hope they build something for those people to access the north side of 466a other than the crossing at colony with golf carts

OMGoodness! Sounds very fancy! And it's in the Old Pine Dairy too! Hope they get free milk delivery. :icon_wink:

I'm sure there will be another shopping area with a grocery store planned, too.

There is a road coming from Morse Blvd thru the property and exiting by the Medical Building. It's on the drawing that was displayed any way.

Oh yea of little faith. Why in the heck would the Morses now screw up when they have such an amazing history? For what reason?


Patience, I say patience, grasshoppers!


Rumors are so wild on this forum.

It will be just fine, thought out, well managed. WHY do some people practically salivate to put the Morses down??????? WHY????

I personally would not want to live in a place called Fruitland.

There may be commercial space designated, but it will be up to companies to lease the space..............TV doesn't run grocery stores.

the anything goes environment of the current day slants innocent verbiage/titles/labels. So much for culture and heritage....eh?

btk

Wikipedia....................the rest of the story.
Fruitland Park predates the American Civil War, although the name of the town didn't come until later. It was originally called Gardenia. The earliest settler was M. Calvin Lee, of the Evander Lee family of Leesburg,[5] who planted a citrus grove. After the war, a son-in-law of the Lee family, P.S. Bouknight, homesteaded 40 acres (160,000 m2) near Mirror Lake.

In 1875 the State of Florida sent Capt. Kendricks to the northern part of the US to talk about the advantages of living in Florida. Due to Major Orlando P. Rooks poor health, and already considering a move, he had his wife, Josephine, moved to Fruitland Park.[6] They built their first home on Crystal Lake in 1877. It was here that the first white child, Frederic, was born in 1882.

The Fruitland Nurseries of Augusta, Georgia, was owned by J. P. Berckmann, friend of Major Rook. Major Rook named the town Fruitland Park for the nurseries, and the main street Berckmann Street for this friend.

The plan shows homes, rec centers, and 1 9-hole golf course. No commercial space.

Does this mean that people who live there will NOT have The Villages as an address?

one can use whatever town/city name they like to see on their address as long as the zip is correct.

The zip is the determining factor of getting your mail.

btk

I'm sure it will be as well thought out as possible and the Morses do have a very good track record. However, it is not an attack on the Morses to point out that continued expansion can have negative effect on the existing property owners. As you have pointed out, the crush on the Colony Publix is already too great. Add another 4,000 people to the customer base and it's going to get that much worse.

As also pointed out, as well as the Morses plan, they do not control how many super markets go into an area. It will be up to a competing chain to determine if the demand is sufficient to support a second store in the area. One thing that looks clear, however, is if there is a second store, it is not likely going to be golf cart accessible since there is no commercial space as part of the new acquisition and there doesn't appear to be sufficient Village-owned available space in the immediate Colony area. This would mean that unless TV acquires additional land in FP for commercial space, any new grocery store would be on non-TV property and hence no golf cart access. This of course would factor into any grocery chain's decision about expanding into that area.

Bottom line is that we need to stop thinking that all expansion is good. Once expansion exceeds the original plan, in all likelihood it will be negative.

.....Huh ?????

The Origional Plan had NOTHING South of County Road 466.

We were told in 2000...
..."We will never build Housing South of CR 466, there is no land available."

Clyde Bailey and Jack O Dell both decided to sell their massive ranches.
We now have Bailey Trail and O Dell Circle....

......the Baker heirs decided to sell almost all of their 1200 acres around the Lake Deaton area off CR 44a...

...in 2003 the Developer gave land at Interstate 75 and CR 466 to
facilitate building an exit there...this is quite a ways WEST of Wal-Mart 466.
..do you suppose something is going to happen out that way?

By 2015 we will have an Exit off Morse Blvd. (a.k.a. CR 468) Two miles
South of State Road 44. for On and Off ramps to The Turnpike.
Yes, the Developer gave that land to make it happen.

......more than half of The Villages is an EXPANSION of the "Origional Plan.


Do we think it is over yet???

I'll bet Publix doesn't agree with you

I prefer it to Vegetableland Park.

I am new to the Villages having just moved into Pinellas south of 466A where we are getting a sizable plaza of a Sweetbay, Walgreens, medical offices, etc. My question is what was the original plan of Swartz and Morse and has it changed over the years? If expansion has exceeded the original plan before isn't it in all likelihood that this could be a positive step forward?

it is all a function of land availability at the right size, price and location.
In 2005 (or 2006) when the horse ranch on 472 was the right price it was bought by TV ans became Bridgeport at Sumter shores or something like that.

I bet that was an evolution and not part of a plan envisioned by the Schwartz empire.

Back then if someone told Schwartz TV would be building and selling $250,000 to $one million plus homes as fast as they could be built he probably would have laughed you aotta the room.

Like all good plans there is an ability to change/modify/amend it to meet the situation.

There is no doubt a master chart of potential land sites somewhere in the executive think tank.

btk

Some business's actually acquire their own land. This could happen along 466A and a new grocery store could be built. Not golf cart access,so what, if the courrent location is as bad as some whiners have posted............get in the car and go to the store!

OK, let me re-phrase: When piecemeal additions are made to a master plan, negatives occur. With a huge addition like that below 466A, they at least had the luxury to add sufficient amenities such as championship and executive golf courses as well as regional rec centers and space for commercial property to deal with the influx of new people. However, since this master plan accounting for the area south of 466A, there have been numerous new residential areas created over and above the original "Final Phase" as the developers called it.

Even at that, one could argue that even the expansion below 466A had negative impacts in terms of overall traffic congestion that occurs during snowbird season.

I am not a Morse basher at all. They have created a wonderful area to live and deserve every million that they have. However, as a resident, I am at a loss to see much in terms of positives with this additional growth. Even with the typical good planning that they do, can anyone clearly lay out how their personal enjoyment of the Villages will get better with an additional 4,000 people coming in (on top of the other thousands of people that have been added since the "Final Phase" master plan was submited to the county)? However, I can think of a lot negatives - especially for those of us in the Colony area.

Maybe you should try modifying your brush and state that SOME enterprizes make piecmeal additions..............

Since most of what is south of 466 was/is/will be piecemeal....I hardly think one can say it was not done well.

If one has a plan, especially one that has worked for over 40 years, the people who administer it are wise enough to know what works and what does not. And each new "piece" seems to add value to TV lifestyle and investment.

Just look at the pricing that is going to be used in The Fruitland Village....surely based on experience, supply and what we all help with DEMAND.

Many cities have grown successfully over the years, let's say the last 100 or two.....all piecemeal and a part of the original plan.

btk

Sorry, I don't buy that most of the areas that have been done are done in a piecemeal basis. When they buy huge tracts of land at a time such that they can create a real plan to include the "right" number of golf courses, rec centers and commercial areas, this is master planning done right.

However, since the acquisition of the bulk of the land south of 466A and its corresponding master plan, there have been nothing but piecemeal additions to that that add many thousands of additional residents into an area without the addition of any amenities to accomodate them.

Check out any number of threads about:
1) Horrendous golf cart backups trying to cross the road leading to Colony Plaza

2) Publix overcrowding in Colony

3) Lack of swim lanes in the sports pools

4) Overcrowding in the fitness centers

5) Inability to get tee times during the winter

6) Inability to get into art classes, etc.

Not only will all of these problems get worse with more people, it points to the fact that even the master plan is not all that perfect.

I don't put any credibility in price points reported in the newspaper, but even if they are true, who cares? It doesn't impact me one bit. I would be much happier if the lifestyle does not get eroded than leaving my heirs more money.

"Horrendous golf cart backups, Publix overcrowding, lack of swim lanes, overcrowding in the fitness centers, inability to get tee times in the winter, and inability to get into art classes, etc." Oh my!

I don't think things are as apocalyptic as you describe. The world is not coming to an end.

According to the articles written about the Fruitland Park meeting, about 200 area residents attended. I'm curious that the following subject seems not to have been brought up either by the officials presenting the detailed agreement between TV and Fruitland, or the audience:

Fruitland Park was recently declared a "Golf Cart Friendly Community." When The Villages builds homes that will double the size of the town, will golf carts be able to access TV from Fruitland?

If there is any access to the area occupied by TV homes, it means folks who pay no TV amenities will be able to use TV multi-modal paths. If Fruitland Park folks cannot drive a cart into TV it means the town will likely be split in half by a wall.

Anyone know if a decision has been made?

village of fruitland park
 

is the village of fruitland park part of the Villages? The reason I ask is that it is being called The village of Fruitland park not the Villages. If it is going to be a whole separate Village will they be using The Villages golf courses and pools and or rec centers like we do ? I am hoping that Fruitland park is not part of The villages and that this is just a small retirement community. I know it will be beautiful because the Morse family has really done a great job here. It would just be nice not to have all the extra traffic especially at colony. It has been crazy at colony it feels like the snowbirds have been here all summer. I think it would have been better had sweatbay opened when south of 466 was being built. That has added so much traffic and I feel sorry for the people at that end they have had to travel to get to a store it should ease soon with sweatbay opening soon. Just in time for the snowbird traffic. I wonder if some of us sound like the people that lived here before us and they watched the villages growing. I would like to see The villages build out end soon but see the developer continue building beautiful retirement places like this. Even going into The Village of Ocala etc. Brings jobs to the area and a beautiful retirement community, but enough building here.

why not?

Everyone and anyone has access to the multi-modal paths right now.

Gracie, although we have not met. I must say you have put together yet another wonderful reply. Naysayers abound and you manage to politely set them straight. Thank you, we do have a wonderful setting in which to live.

The new SweetBay, Walgreen's, MVP Fitness Center, Citizens Bank, and all the other new restaurants, stores, churches, and recreation centers are opening just in time.

People in the southernmost section of The Villages are lucky that they can travel quickly to Leesburg for shopping, hospital and doctors.

Apocalyptic? I don't think so. Of course the world is not coming to an end, but many on here seem to think that never-ending growth is a good thing and makes things better. I don't share that opinion. If I did I never would have left the Northeast with its suburban sprawl and traffic congestion. Track the number of complaints that people have on this board about various things being too busy (even from the most ardent cheerleaders) and then tell me how this expansion will make any of it better.

What has happened is that The Villages has purchased about half of the land in the town of Fruitland Park and has reached an agreement with the town to develop the land with typical Villages homes. Lots of questions about the details of this agreement have been made public, but I am trying to find out if the current Fruitland Park residents will be able to enter the other half of their town where The Villages homes will be.

village of fruitland park
 

Thank you, I guess we will see what happens.

The Morse's have had plenty of time to mess up The Villages since the initial phase. It hasn't happened yet, so I'm not sure why some think a new expansion will make it happen now. And TV is nothing like...and will not likely ever be like...the unrestrained sprawl of large urban areas.