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carol_piirto 08-15-2014 02:59 PM

AED Devices in Neighborhood?
 
Does your neighborhood have an AED device? Has anyone ever had the opportunity to use it and save a life? What do you think about it? Is it something that we'll actually use, that we'll even be able to get to the emergency before the EMTs?! ( I question that)
Anyway, I wonder what your experience has taught you.
Many many thanks

Carol 352-633-0326 H
352-446-0149C

carol_piirto@hotmail.com

sunnyatlast 08-15-2014 03:07 PM

Our neighborhood organized and runs its voluntary program with neighbors trained by fire department. It coordinates with 911 dispatchers and an outside contractor handles dispatch of neighbor-responders. There are costs involved in the dispatch service and there are costs of maintaining the AED machines, batteries, etc.

It's well worth it to raise money voluntarily as a group to do this. Fire dept. paramedics can easily be out on other calls when your neighbor has a cardiac arrest, and a neighbor responder can be at his/her house in 2 minutes, and it might take much longer for ambulance to arrive.

Best testimonial of AED training and equipment on hand is this, reported in the newer online Villages dot com newspaper, titled "Villages Public Safety Captain works ‘Sunday miracle’ at church".

bwahrend 08-15-2014 03:31 PM

I have used them before. They are easy to use and they save lives. They have voice commands that are easy to follow and the machines are basically automatic. Time is of the essence.

Bizdoc 08-15-2014 03:57 PM

Given the demographics of TV, it is cheap insurance. As to how fast will people respond, the more people who are trained and willing to save a life, the closer they are likely to be to you. Hopefully, you will take the training and be willing to save a life. From my understanding, the average time for EMTs to arrive is around 5 minutes. If you have someone in your block, it will be under 3 minutes. Those 2 minutes make a huge difference.

There's a reason why the survival rate for cardiac events is considerably higher in TV than the national average.

Bogie Shooter 08-15-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by carol_piirto (Post 923717)
Does your neighborhood have an AED device? Has anyone ever had the opportunity to use it and save a life? What do you think about it? Is it something that we'll actually use, that we'll even be able to get to the emergency before the EMTs?! ( I question that)
Anyway, I wonder what your experience has taught you.
Many many thanks

Carol 352-633-0326 H
352-446-0149C

carol_piirto@hotmail.com

List of locations. You can also call the Public Safety Department for more information on the program.

Village Community Development Districts

njbchbum 08-15-2014 04:31 PM

Is it correct to assume that once pools and rec centers close that there is no access to an AED - or are they available on the outside of a facility?

Do they not have them on some golf courses, too?

asianthree 08-15-2014 05:14 PM

For those who have actually performed CPR. On a person, it is very strenuous. But at least the guide lines do not call for mouth to mouth any more just compressions

Mikeod 08-15-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 923766)
Is it correct to assume that once pools and rec centers close that there is no access to an AED - or are they available on the outside of a facility?

Do they not have them on some golf courses, too?

No AEDs at the golf courses. Players are advised to call 911 and give their precise location on the course.

billethkid 08-15-2014 06:31 PM

It is no different than any other insurance. It is a wise investment that every village should make.
We have had ours in our village since before it was built out.
And yes it has been used. And yes in each instance it made the difference in the patients outcome.
And yes we do respond for the very very few in our village who refused to participate (donate their share....$275!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

upstate 08-15-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 923775)
For those who have actually performed CPR. On a person, it is very strenuous. But at least the guide lines do not call for mouth to mouth any more just compressions

I have performed CPR many times in over forty years and yes it can be strenuous with or without a relief. Personally, to me it's a small price to pay for the possibility of assisting in saving a life.

getdul981 08-15-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 923766)
Is it correct to assume that once pools and rec centers close that there is no access to an AED - or are they available on the outside of a facility?

Do they not have them on some golf courses, too?

Our neighborhood has 4 AED's located strategically around the neighborhood. We have around 25-30 people that have taken the CPR instruction course and agreed to be responders. The reason for so many is, hopefully, some of the 25-30 will be available at any given time. You can never have too many people to assist with CPR.

newguyintv 08-16-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 923759)
List of locations. You can also call the Public Safety Department for more information on the program.

Village Community Development Districts

This is a list of Rec Centers etc. where these devices are located. It has nothing at all to do with the subject of this Thread.

Bogie Shooter 08-16-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 923960)
This is a list of Rec Centers etc. where these devices are located. It has nothing at all to do with the subject of this Thread.

I was pointing out that the AED program is very active in TV. Not only in various villages but the public places as well. I also included a link where more information could be obtained.

Was your post really necessary?

newguyintv 08-16-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 924003)
I was pointing out that the AED program is very active in TV. Not only in various villages but the public places as well. I also included a link where more information could be obtained.

Was your post really necessary?

Yes it was! We all know that there are AED's and trained Employees in all the places listed in your attachment. Yes, there have been a few success stories associated with those locations.

The point you are missing is that there is no commonality between the location of AED's and trained personal in public places and the neighborhood AED program. All I can tell you is that hundreds of thousands have been spent on the neighborhood programs and I have yet to see a single bit of corroborated evidence that any of these neighborhood devices or volunteers have been used successfully or otherwise. Granted, in general, training of many residents in CPR is very valuable and commendable and valuable.

If you can refute what I say by providing evidence of actual life saving situations directly as a result of the neighborhood programs I might reconsider my opinion. If there are any such cases that are documented they should include details about how much faster neighborhood volunteers responded than the traditional rescue teams.

Without supporting detail, I have little choice but to maintain that the neighborhood program is excessively expensive and motivated by emotion rather than facts. Lets see some facts from the neighborhood program alone, not from the few success stories that originated in public places where the use of AED's and trained personnel has been proven to make sense.

billethkid 08-16-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by newguyintv (Post 924029)

Without supporting detail, I have little choice but to maintain that the neighborhood program is excessively expensive and motivated by emotion rather than facts. Lets see some facts from the neighborhood program alone, not from the few success stories that originated in public places where the use of AED's and trained personnel has been proven to make sense.

Having been a party to some of the original studies to determine if we as a village should go forward I can tell you that your statement is unequivocally WRONG. And I suspect I am reporting like wise for many other villages that decided to go forward.

You are entitled to YOUR opinion but please do not insult those of us who in fact know better.


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