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golfing eagles 06-14-2017 09:31 AM

Have the residents who put......
 
a refrigerator on their lanai had any problems with tripping the GFCI or the freezer not cooling in cold weather????

photo1902 06-14-2017 09:34 AM

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427dave 06-14-2017 09:43 AM

Had a small refrigerator on our back porch (lanai) for 12 years year round. No problems what so ever.

dbussone 06-14-2017 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1411493)
a refrigerator on their lanai had any problems with tripping the GFCI or the freezer not cooling in cold weather????



I've had similar issues, without a fridge involved. We had an electrician recommend installing a GFCI on each outlet for that circuit. It seems to have resolved the issue.

However, there is a known issue with circuit breakers in homes installed south of 466A. You might want to call the electrical contractor who installed your wiring & the electrical box. If it is related to the issue I just mentioned they will replace the faulty breakers at no cost.


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golfing eagles 06-14-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1411528)
I've had similar issues, without a fridge involved. We had an electrician recommend installing a GFCI on each outlet for that circuit. It seems to have resolved the issue.

However, there is a known issue with circuit breakers in homes installed south of 466A. You might want to call the electrical contractor who installed your wiring & the electrical box. If it is related to the issue I just mentioned they will replace the faulty breakers at no cost.


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Thanks. I had that issue over a year ago and they replaced all the breakers involved. There is a different issue with refrigerators plugged into GFCI outlets----it appears that the compressor can cause a slight power surge when it kicks on, which can be above the 4.5 ma threshold of most GFCIs. My research showed that it is mostly with older units and could vary by the type of wiring and GFCIs, so I was interested in a little local feedback. The other problem that occurs with outdoor/garage units is that a low temp will not allow the thermostat, which is in the refrigerator part to call for cooling, hence the freezer part can gravitate into the 30s and melt. No one in my neighborhood has had this problem, it appears you need sustained temps below 35 in most cases.

jnieman 06-14-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1411493)
a refrigerator on their lanai had any problems with tripping the GFCI or the freezer not cooling in cold weather????

We put a small frig in the garage and it tripped the breaker. Turns out it was on the same as our hot tub. We plugged it into a different outlet and it worked fine. We have had no issue with the freezer cooling in the hot garage. It has been there for about 3-4 years.

dbussone 06-14-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jnieman (Post 1411645)
We put a small frig in the garage and it tripped the breaker. Turns out it was on the same as our hot tub. We plugged it into a different outlet and it worked fine. We have had no issue with the freezer cooling in the hot garage. It has been there for about 3-4 years.



I have a Eurocave wine fridge in the garage, and have also at my previous 2 homes. It keeps the wine bottles at whatever temp I set -+ 0.2 degrees. It has never flipped a GFCI or breaker.


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golfing eagles 06-14-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jnieman (Post 1411645)
We put a small frig in the garage and it tripped the breaker. Turns out it was on the same as our hot tub. We plugged it into a different outlet and it worked fine. We have had no issue with the freezer cooling in the hot garage. It has been there for about 3-4 years.

Strange that the hot tub wasn't on a dedicated circuit---must have been a 110 v unit. Actually, the problem that develops isn't from a HOT garage, although it does put more strain on the compressor. The problem is that in the COLD, the thermostat, which is located in the refrigerator compartment, won't call for cold air, and as a result the freezer doesn't get any either and warms up to the mid thirties. Fortunately, no one I've asked has had this problem, but if we get temps outside around 32-34 for more than 24 hours, we may all have this problem. Hope not.

rubicon 06-14-2017 06:18 PM

bought a refrig for the garage about 9 years ago. Then when we purchased new appliances moved the replaced refrig to the garage. have not had any sort of electrical or cooling problem so fare fingers crossed)

dbussone 06-14-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1411766)
Strange that the hot tub wasn't on a dedicated circuit---must have been a 110 v unit. Actually, the problem that develops isn't from a HOT garage, although it does put more strain on the compressor. The problem is that in the COLD, the thermostat, which is located in the refrigerator compartment, won't call for cold air, and as a result the freezer doesn't get any either and warms up to the mid thirties. Fortunately, no one I've asked has had this problem, but if we get temps outside around 32-34 for more than 24 hours, we may all have this problem. Hope not.



GE - if you lived in Canada, where certain lobsters come from, you wouldn't need a garage or lanai fridge. You could put a cardboard box on the front porch and all would be well.


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golfing eagles 06-14-2017 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1411779)
GE - if you lived in Canada, where certain lobsters come from, you wouldn't need a garage or lanai fridge. You could put a cardboard box on the front porch and all would be well.


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Yes, but the box would be EMPTY, since certain Canadian LOSERS of a bet have not paid up. (BF, I hope you are reading this, and yes, I'll take the 5 yard penalty for cross threading):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

pauld315 06-14-2017 06:25 PM

No, but the washer and dryer on my front porch makes a lot of noise in the summer !

dbussone 06-14-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1411781)
Yes, but the box would be EMPTY, since certain Canadian LOSERS of a bet have not paid up. (BF, I hope you are reading this, and yes, I'll take the 5 yard penalty for cross threading):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



Actually the cross thread penalty belongs to me. But I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a lobster today


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Waverunner 06-14-2017 09:11 PM

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One of the recommendations we got when we put a refrigerator in the garage was to put a fan on top of the refrigerator, plug it into the same outlet and turn it on. Then you will notice immediately if the GFCI has been tripped, as the fan won't be on. Of course you have to be home to notice.

We also have thermometers inside to periodically check the temperatures.

Chatbrat 06-15-2017 07:50 AM

If the refrigerator and the recepticle is dedicate for the device only you do not need a GFI--NEVER put a refrig on a GFI circuit--make the plug and recepticle a twist lock and you meet code--GFI are for personal shock protection


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