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graciegirl 08-06-2018 08:02 AM

The States with the highest SAT scores.
 
The states with the highest and lowest SAT scores

The writer says that families with higher income have students who score higher on the SAT and attributes that to being able to pay for tutoring. I think it could be because of higher I.Q.

West Virginia scores quite a bit higher than New York State and Washington D.C. is the bottom of the list.

What do you think about this?

manaboutown 08-06-2018 08:23 AM

What blew me away was the low participation rates of the highest scoring states, 2 - 3%!

Historically many western state colleges used the ACT rather than the SAT although most students took both.

I find it sad that the SAT keeps getting dumbed down.

Thank you for this post, Gracie. It is informative.

graciegirl 08-06-2018 08:40 AM

Interesting!!

I don't know why there is controversy about I.Q. tests. It helps us understand how and what and when and why a person may learn a certain way. High I.Q. does not mean success in life or a high income.

We are not all born equal, but we ARE all born valuable...unless we harm others.

tomwed 08-06-2018 08:43 AM

One of my teaching friends who was the Social Studies Department Chairman had a brilliant plan that worked. When his 3 girls became freshman he would pay them $10/hour [15 years ago] on Saturday, every Saturday to seriously take a 4 hour SAT test. You can buy the tests and answers. How much did that really cost him? Where did the money go?

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dewilson58 08-06-2018 09:32 AM

No surprise............Midwest people have been the smartest for a very long time.

:super:

graciegirl 08-06-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1569567)
No surprise............Midwest people have been the smartest for a very long time.

:super:

Right here in River City....

Ya better hide, Dew.

EPutnam1863 08-06-2018 09:56 AM

Those with lower IQ are just as valuable as those with higher IQs because the latter won't do menial jobs.

tomwed 08-06-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1569523)
The states with the highest and lowest SAT scores

The writer says that families with higher income have students who score higher on the SAT and attributes that to being able to pay for tutoring. I think it could be because of higher I.Q.

West Virginia scores quite a bit higher than New York State and Washington D.C. is the bottom of the list.

What do you think about this?

How can anyone compare states if the participation is different? For example if one state has a 60% participation rate and another [DC] 100% would it seem reasonable to remove the lowest 40% from [DC]? and re-average. Only 42% of the students in DC are on track to graduate.
I don't think this study by itself tells half the story.

AP Program Participation and Performance Data 2017 – Research – College Board
I would take a look at this information too if so inclined.

Bjeanj 08-06-2018 11:16 AM

I have read that a number (don’t know how many) of universities are no longer requiring SAT/ACT scores. I always thought they were used in combination with HS grades and extra curriculars to determine who would be accepted. Does that just leave HS grades & extracurriculars for decision-making purposes?

tomwed 08-06-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1569604)
I have read that a number (don’t know how many) of universities are no longer requiring SAT/ACT scores. I always thought they were used in combination with HS grades and extra curriculars to determine who would be accepted. Does that just leave HS grades & extracurriculars for decision-making purposes?

The school's names escape me but they were the most difficult to enter. IMHO to be a good candidate you need to do something different.

My oldest had an academic scholarship so I told him to take summer online courses for his electives to make the workload easier during the school year. My younger son did the same. I told the oldest one after his freshman year not to worry about a summer job like the other college kids for room and board. I'll cover most of that. I told him to dress professionally and knock on every mechanical engineering company door he could find in our area of NJ asking for summer work. Tell them salary does not matter. He came home empty handed. I told them in a couple of days go back and knock on all the same doors. This will make you different. He got a job for $10/hr for 20 hours a week and agreed to work another 20 hours a week for free in return for the lessons he would learn. After his BS degree he got 3 fellowships and ended up with a PHD, debt free. In every application he told the door knocking story. They all want to know what makes you different.

graciegirl 08-06-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1569611)
The school's names escape me but they were the most difficult to enter. IMHO to be a good candidate you need to do something different.

My oldest had an academic scholarship so I told him to take summer online courses for his electives to make the workload easier during the school year. My younger son did the same. I told the oldest one after his freshman year not to worry about a summer job like the other college kids for room and board. I'll cover most of that. I told him to dress professionally and knock on every mechanical engineering company door he could find in our area of NJ asking for summer work. Tell them salary does not matter. He came home empty handed. I told them in a couple of days go back and knock on all the same doors. This will make you different. He got a job for $10/hr for 20 hours a week and agreed to work another 20 hours a week for free in return for the lessons he would learn. After his BS degree he got 3 fellowships and ended up with a PHD, debt free. In every application he told the door knocking story. They all want to know what makes you different.

Very good direction dad. Makes me want to hug you.

tomwed 08-06-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1569612)
Very good direction dad. Makes me want to hug you.

You were a teacher. How many times have you seen a teacher wipe out after the first 6 months on the job for any number of reasons. I really didn't know for sure if I could be a teacher until I did it for a long time. And when I figured out how I could stay in education and not have any classes I loved going to work.

One of the problems in education is that kids spend too much time getting ready to work. I've had many apprentices. I wanted my son to find out ASAP if he liked the work.

eweissenbach 08-06-2018 12:01 PM

Interesting; I grew up in Missouri #4, have also lived in Kansas #5, North Dakota #6, Iowa #3, and Minnesota #1. I feel certain I have brought the collective IQ down in each. :shocked:

Bruiser1 08-06-2018 12:16 PM

I believe you mean Naval Academy.

A Navel Academy would be something different ..such as the study of Oranges or study of "I dream of Jeanie "seminars

tomwed 08-06-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruiser1 (Post 1569617)
I believe you mean Naval Academy.

A Navel Academy would be something different ..such as the study of Oranges or study of "I dream of Jeanie "seminars

I meant to fix that and forgot. aw nuts

My dad was in love with Jeanie. My brother in law would tease him about it and even when he was 80 he would turn red.


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