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manaboutown 06-02-2020 05:44 PM

Who was George Floyd?
 
I just started to try to find out what I could about him and could not come up with very much although I imagine more will come out in the future. He was from the Houston area and had been in jail/imprisoned several times, going back at least to 1998. At least twice he had used a firearm committing a crime. The aggravated robbery for which he was imprisoned for five years is troubling, at least to me, although fortunately the victim was not shot. He moved to Minneapolis to get a fresh start in 2007. George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Stu from NYC 06-02-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1776097)
I just started to try to find out what I could about him and could not come up with very much although I imagine more will come out in the future. He was from the Houston area and had been in jail/imprisoned several times, going back at least to 1998. At least twice he had used a firearm committing a crime. The aggravated robbery for which he was imprisoned for five years is troubling, at least to me, although fortunately the victim was not shot. He moved to Minneapolis to get a fresh start in 2007. George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Be interesting to see what kind of a man he was. Amazed that all the posterboys for police murdered someone is never a model citizen.

Why is that?

Marvic 1 06-02-2020 06:28 PM

From what the News Media has been say he was a "good-guy"...

champion6 06-02-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov (Post 1776111)
Be interesting to see what kind of a man he was. Amazed that all the posterboys for police murdered someone is never a model citizen.

Why is that?

Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-02-2020 07:38 PM

I'd read that he was *charged* with possession and another crime back in 1998, but there is no mention of him being convicted with either of those incidents. The only conviction I've seen was the armed robbery, with no shots fired, and that was in 2008 (the conviction came in 2009), and he only had to serve 4 of his 5 year sentence. There had been no incidents mentioned between 1998 and 2008, and no incidents mentioned between 2009 and last week.

Definitely not what you'd call a "model citizen" but it looked like he was sincerely trying to improve his life legitimately, getting a job, which ended only because the restaurant he worked at had to close due to COVID-19. Not because of anything he'd done. And - everyone who was interviewed who worked with him and knew him recently felt he was a hard worker, eager to improve his lot in life, and not prone to violence.

As for the actual reason he was arrested last week - there was no indication that he knew in advance he was "passing" a $20 bill. We'll never know if he knew that it was fake now, because he's dead, and can't admit to it or deny it anymore.

anothersteve 06-02-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1776122)
Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

Not True. Do the research. I did in another post and someone obfuscated.
Steve

Stu from NYC 06-02-2020 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1776122)
Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

There is an old saying, if you do not want to do the time do not do the crime. Can that be the reason so man black men come in contact with the police?.

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 09:06 PM

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Because black men are disproportionally killed by police in the United States.

Based on proportional/per capita numbers (per 100,000)...you are absolutely correct.

At a rate of 2-1/2 times as many...as a matter of fact.

Some folks want to trick you based on pure numbers, not taking into account blacks make up a much smaller %...of the total population.

They're sneaky liars like that.

To show it's already been proved once.
:ho:

Click Here




Total numbers mean absolutely nothing, unless the sole, sneaky intent...is to obfuscate and deceive. :oops:

Per 100,000 is a much more accurate measurement.


Imbalance by ethnic group (poke here)

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The results paint a picture of definite disparity when it comes to race and police shootings. Although more white people are shot in total, people from minority ethnic groups are shot at higher rates by population. One paper published in August found that a black man is 2.5 times more likely than a white man to be killed by the police during his lifetime.



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manaboutown 06-02-2020 09:19 PM

How can incarceration rates be racist if they reflect the ACTUAL crime rates? - Conservative Review

anothersteve 06-02-2020 09:20 PM

**** the percentages,,,,numbers don't lie. More white men are killed by Police...............period

Steve

manaboutown 06-02-2020 09:36 PM

https://storage.googleapis.com/conse...olentcrime.jpg

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 10:01 PM

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Nice try, but where did that phony, homemade graph...even come from? :oops:

One only has to look in the address bar to see...it is NOT directly from "Bureau of Justice Statistics."

Here is the lying site...that the phony graph came from.

Conservative Review - Media Bias/Fact Check

And here is a fact check on that highly biased site.

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These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.



Here is the REAL "Bureau of Justice Statistics" government site.

Now go find a phony, homemade graph like the one you linked...anywhere on the REAL site. :ohdear:


Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS)


Now click on the first link and go to Page 10 of Criminal Victimization, 2018...and here's the truth.

Rates based on per 1,000 people.

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 10:12 PM

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Look on page 13 of the same link...for the REAL "Table 14"...which your FAKE one claims to be. :oops:

Here it is.
:boom:

:ho:

thomp679 06-02-2020 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1776097)
Who was George Floyd?

He was a human being who, regardless of his past, should not have died in the fashion he did. No value is added by judging the dead.

ColdNoMore 06-02-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1776217)
He was a human being who, regardless of his past, should not have died in the fashion he did.

A voice of decency and reason...how refreshing.

Thank you.
:thumbup:


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