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xkeowner 10-25-2020 07:22 PM

Anything made with plastic to increase significantly in price or disappear completely
 
Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.

Topspinmo 10-25-2020 09:01 PM

Who this we?

Stu from NYC 10-25-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1852382)
Who this we?

Something Tonto said to the Lone Ranger.

Topspinmo 10-25-2020 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1852385)
Something Tonto said to the Lone Ranger.


Yes, kingosabby.

CWGUY 10-25-2020 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1852399)
Yes, kingosabby.

:) kemosabe

Two Bills 10-26-2020 02:23 AM

"Politics by the back door Tonto!"
"Me cut them off at pass Kemosabe!"
"Away!! :crap2:

JimJohnson 10-26-2020 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1852360)
Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.

That would be wonderful, but not likely to happen. We can :pray:.

RoadToad 10-26-2020 04:42 AM

Not gonna happen ....
Electric airplanes? ; Ocean freighters?; Long haul trains?
Get a grip mate. THINK!!

Cities, cars etc. Certainly...
Plastics are NOT AT RISK..

kannon 10-26-2020 04:51 AM

There are areas where we can reduce fossil fuel consumption thru use of new, cleaner, reusable energy sources - solar being a key one. You can already see car companies changing, not due to gov't pressures, but economic pressures in developing new electric cars. Eventually all cars and motorcycles will be electric and that will reduce emissions and force oil companies to change. I support the transition that Biden is pushing. Remember telegraph operators or telephone operators. Well long haul trackers will be changing in the future and so must oil companies. But that being said, there will remain important areas of our economy where oil will remain - plastics for one. Although new means of production that help reduce environmental damage will coincide with continuing oil usage.

Embrace the change. Trump pushed coal subsidies for an industry that is being forced due to economic pressures to change. If I was in PA or Texas I would embrace gov't support to transition to the future, instead of keeping status quo thru subsidies.

ron32162 10-26-2020 06:18 AM

The U.S

skarra 10-26-2020 06:25 AM

If it means the end of those stupid blister packs that no one can open safely, I say Hurray!!!

Time to move on folks. We can do better.

dtennent 10-26-2020 06:41 AM

The oil industry is not going away. Will single use items like grocery bags change? Yes - probably to a biodegradable material so the oceans don't fill up with it. However, our lives are surrounded by polymers - Your keyboard, the housing on your computer, and your car are mostly made with polymers. However, I do think that producing more of our power needs through solar, wind, and geothermal makes lots of sense. Long haul carriers like planes, trains, trucks and ships will require petroleum based fuels for a long time.

Mulliganguy 10-26-2020 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1852360)
Many, maybe even most, plastics are made from petroleum. If we shut down the oil industry it will likely significantly impact the availability and/or cost of anything made of or containing a significant amount of plastic.

From Whitefield Plastics website
Onshore & offshore wind turbines, or wind energy, is one of the fastest-growing energy technologies in the country. It takes a short amount of time to build a wind farm and requires a small footprint. Whitefield Plastics manufactures high-performance polyurethane products for offshore wind and wind turbine energy applications.
Advances in polymer chemistry have resulted in polyurethanes that have operating ranges of 300F (150C). These high temperature/high pressure polyurethane materials and elastomers can be used in a wide range of operating environments and performance requirements.

Recently in Iowa there are wind turbines farms shut down as these 18000 lb blades are breaking off. Only one landfill in the state accepts them. They are ground up and buried. Of course you know that this stuff doesn’t decompose like forever. So much for clean energy.

airdale2 10-26-2020 07:01 AM

And with doubling the use of electric you can expect the usage rate to at least double.

Art cov 10-26-2020 07:02 AM

Electric jets to fly around the world? Lots of energy! Maybe we will finally live like the jetsons! His flying machine turned into his briefcase! O boy! I can’t wait...come on folks-get a grip.


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