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graciegirl 06-21-2021 08:58 AM

This is on the subject of shootings by race/ethnicity. Any facts found for 2021?
 
Kaiser Family Foundation - Media Bias/Fact Check

Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.

JMintzer 06-21-2021 09:11 AM

Your chart is on "deaths" by ethnicity... Not "shootings"...

It says nothing about who is doing the shooting...

And what does your last comment have to do with your initial topic?

Taltarzac725 06-21-2021 09:17 AM

Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.

Bucco 06-21-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1962920)
Kaiser Family Foundation - Media Bias/Fact Check

Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.

Would be great for discussion (maybe) if knew what you are saying, or suggesting.

You speak of guns in the generic sense but are specific about deaths by skin color.

JMintzer 06-21-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1962942)
Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.

"Brady"...

Certainly no bias there... And to their point? Wait, do they have an actual point?

Bill14564 06-21-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1962942)
Gun Violence is a Racial Justice Issue | Brady

I did find this. It covers statistics before 2021 however.

It really looks like the title of that article should be, "How to Frame Gun Violence as a Racial Justice Issue."

There are probably some valid points in the article but the misleading way it is written makes me skeptical of its conclusions.

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2021 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1962920)
Kaiser Family Foundation - Media Bias/Fact Check

Deaths Due to Firearms per 100,000 Population by Race/Ethnicity | KFF

This is from 2019. Has it changed much since then?

We haven't guns in our house, but many friends have guns.

Really, Gracie?

manaboutown 06-21-2021 09:45 AM

I am currently reading a recently published book (2021) that reveals statistics on violent crimes, including murders, committed within the USA by members of four "racial" groups: White, Black, Latino and Asian. The author shows boiled down results from relatively large data bases such as those kept by the FBI.

The facts are an eye opener!

The book is "Facing Reality" by Charles Murray.

Mortal1 06-21-2021 09:56 AM

And we all know...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1962966)
I am currently reading a recently published book (2021) that reveals statistics on violent crimes, including murders, committed within the USA by members of four "racial" groups: Whites, Black, Latino and Asian. The author shows boiled down results from relatively large data bases such as those kept by the FBI.

The facts are an eye opener!

The book is "Facing Reality" by Charles Murray.

the FBI can be trusted right....brrrraappp! NOT

jdulej 06-21-2021 09:57 AM

My guess is that if you created a chart showing shooting and/or deaths by income groups, you would see a correlation. Less income = more shootings/deaths. Looking at the numbers that way makes more sense (to me at least). There are fewer low income whites (as a % of whites) so you would expect their numbers to be lower

graciegirl 06-21-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1962957)
Really, Gracie?

Really what? Is it wrong to try to figure things out? How can we fix anything unless we know why and how it is broken.

It is like the paper we were asked to write in High School English; Do slums make slummy people or do slummy people make slums?

I don't suppose that would be allowed these days. I want to know why the statistics look like this.

That is what I want to know.

People will tell me how they look at things and I will find another unanswerable question.


I will now go to Aldi's and get child two a Wendy's lunch and see what folks have to say while I was gone.

Mortal1 06-21-2021 09:59 AM

Gracie....
 
I usually think of you as a voice of reason among the chaos...having a LEGAL firearm in your house that you are trained to use has no meaning in your post. Telling us you have none in your house has even less. *sigh*

Has the final bastion on this forum becoming biased. Say it ain't so.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2021 10:51 AM

Recall who Brady is. This is the group connected to James Brady. James Brady - Wikipedia

DAVES 06-21-2021 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1962934)
Your chart is on "deaths" by ethnicity... Not "shootings"...

It says nothing about who is doing the shooting...

And what does your last comment have to do with your initial topic?


Sadly, it is virtually impossible to find information on race, guns that is not spun by bias.
I find it interesting that the areas with the tightest gun controls are also the areas with the most shootings-New York, Chicago, LA.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1963009)
Sadly, it is virtually impossible to find information on race, guns that is not spun by bias.
I find it interesting that the areas with the tightest gun controls are also the areas with the most shootings-New York, Chicago, LA.

Probably connected to turf wars over the drug trade in those areas. Most mass shooters have been white males.


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