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MDLNB 08-11-2021 09:38 AM

Has anyone else noticed?
 
On the Florida Covid dashboard website there is a chart reflecting a bunch of information. What I thought interesting was a couple of points which likely mean nothing but still a coincidence?

According to the chart as the vaccinations went up the infection cases went up also. Sure there is always an answer, but still curious.
Also found interesting is that Sumter Co. had the lowest infection total of all counties in FL.



http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...ata_latest.pdf

Also, fully vaccinated in FL:

50-59 = 69%
60-64 = 78%
65+ = 85%

I know it's going against the trending nature to have positive information on here, but..........

manaboutown 08-11-2021 10:12 AM

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Aacosner 08-11-2021 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=MDLNB;1987263]On the Florida Covid dashboard website there is a chart reflecting a bunch of information. What I thought interesting was a couple of points which likely mean nothing but still a coincidence?

According to the chart as the vaccinations went up the infection cases went up also. Sure there is always an answer, but still curious.
Also found interesting is that Sumter Co. had the lowest infection total of all counties in FL.


My observations from this data:

- The weekly cases in Florida bottomed out in the week of June 11 while the weekly vaccine doses administered in Florida bottomed out in week of July 2. I'll go out on a limb and speculate that the increase in vaccine doses is in response to people seeing the case counts increase and the changing their mind about getting the vaccine. Chicken and egg thing. The same characteristic can be seen in the national data where the 7-day moving average of cases bottomed out and started increasing on June 19, and the 7-day moving average of people receiving the first dose bottomed out and started increasing on July 7: CDC COVID Data Tracker

- Sumter county has the lowest case rates in the last week of this data as you observe. It also has the fourth highest vaccinated percentage. Sure supports that vaccines prevent the pox.

MDLNB 08-11-2021 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=Aacosner;1987313]
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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1987263)
On the Florida Covid dashboard website there is a chart reflecting a bunch of information. What I thought interesting was a couple of points which likely mean nothing but still a coincidence?

According to the chart as the vaccinations went up the infection cases went up also. Sure there is always an answer, but still curious.
Also found interesting is that Sumter Co. had the lowest infection total of all counties in FL.


My observations from this data:

- The weekly cases in Florida bottomed out in the week of June 11 while the weekly vaccine doses administered in Florida bottomed out in week of July 2. I'll go out on a limb and speculate that the increase in vaccine doses is in response to people seeing the case counts increase and the changing their mind about getting the vaccine. Chicken and egg thing. The same characteristic can be seen in the national data where the 7-day moving average of cases bottomed out and started increasing on June 19, and the 7-day moving average of people receiving the first dose bottomed out and started increasing on July 7: CDC COVID Data Tracker

- Sumter county has the lowest case rates in the last week of this data as you observe. It also has the fourth highest vaccinated percentage. Sure supports that vaccines prevent the pox.


Yep, sure looks that way.

Escape Artist 08-11-2021 05:23 PM

The vaccines were never meant to provide protection in the first place, just reduce the symptoms and severity of the virus. But that makes it all the more imperative that everyone is vaccinated so there is no body left to "shed" the virus to. Or at least won't cause death or serious complications. This is all about limiting damage, or damage control, to use a PR term and not really about stopping COVID because it's here to stay, unfortunately.

Villageswimmer 08-11-2021 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 1987495)
The vaccines were never meant to provide protection in the first place, just reduce the symptoms and severity of the virus. But that makes it all the more imperative that everyone is vaccinated so there is no body left to "shed" the virus to. Or at least won't cause death or serious complications. This is all about limiting damage, or damage control, to use a PR term and not really about stopping COVID because it's here to stay, unfortunately.

Hmmm..maybe that’s the way it’s turning out but I don’t recall that being the original intent and expectation of the vax.

Escape Artist 08-11-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1987496)
Hmmm..maybe that’s the way it’s turning out but I don’t recall that being the original intent and expectation of the vax.

I do. I distinctly remember hearing Fauci say that even though you were fully vaccinated you could still carry the virus and shed it to others. Then he had to kinda walk it back because people started doubting the vaccines' effectiveness and questioning why should they bother with the vaccines if they could still get COVID. Same with wearing the masks - I'm sure if the CDC had its druthers it would have kept the mask mandate even for fully vaccinated people given their knowledge of the vaccines and that COVID was likely to mutate.

But a lot of this is a PR game and the end goal is to get as many people on board with the vaccinations as possible. Sometimes you have to wield the stick and the carrot - there was plenty of "stick" coming from all quarters last year so they wanted to reward those who had gotten the jabs.

Dana1963 08-11-2021 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1987263)
On the Florida Covid dashboard website there is a chart reflecting a bunch of information. What I thought interesting was a couple of points which likely mean nothing but still a coincidence?

According to the chart as the vaccinations went up the infection cases went up also. Sure there is always an answer, but still curious.
Also found interesting is that Sumter Co. had the lowest infection total of all counties in FL.



http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...ata_latest.pdf

Also, fully vaccinated in FL:

50-59 = 69%
60-64 = 78%
65+ = 85%

I know it's going against the trending nature to have positive information on here, but..........

And today there was an anti vaccine anti mask protest Sumter Landing by Villagers 4 *********** for mandatory inoculation which I don’t see as an issue yet.

MDLNB 08-12-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1987524)
And today there was an anti vaccine anti mask protest Sumter Landing by Villagers 4 *********** for mandatory inoculation which I don’t see as an issue yet.


What does this have to do with the thread subject? Is it really necessary to make this political?

PugMom 08-12-2021 07:01 AM

i heard some Dr. on tv mention the process of 'shedding' after you get vaccinated

MDLNB 08-12-2021 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1987650)
i heard some Dr. on tv mention the process of 'shedding' after you get vaccinated


Like a snake shedding it's skin? :icon_wink::)

PugMom 08-12-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1987657)
Like a snake shedding it's skin? :icon_wink::)

:clap2::ho:

golfing eagles 08-12-2021 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1987650)
i heard some Dr. on tv mention the process of 'shedding' after you get vaccinated

Well, here's the story: There is a ton about this virus and its mutations that we just don't know. Therefore, on this site, we have many "google medical experts" giving their amateur opinions, which is exactly what they are. For kicks and giggles, I just "googled" COVID and got 262 million hits! I'm sure everyone can find a reference for any outlandish opinion they believe to be true, regardless of how bizarre or stupid it is. And that's both the allure and danger of "googling" something----it gives the ILLUSION of expertise where none exists, and so the "debate" will go on. This illusion has become so pervasive that there are now posters "arguing" with the CDC, the NIH, the Florida DOH, etc. truly believing that they are correct and the experts are wrong! The only question that remains in my mind is whether that type of thinking can be accurately diagnosed as narcissism as opposed to simply delusional.

Billy1 08-12-2021 07:23 AM

ICU's are filling up in Florida and families are losing loved ones, what was your question?

MDLNB 08-12-2021 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy1 (Post 1987673)
ICU's are filling up in Florida and families are losing loved ones, what was your question?


ICUs are used all the time and families have been losing loved ones since the beginning of time. Who were you addressing your question to regarding a question?


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