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Arctic Fox 09-22-2023 05:34 AM

Gate arms
 
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These ones in Corsica have red lights on them that turn green when the barrier lifts and it is safe to proceed

dtennent 09-22-2023 06:13 AM

What a great idea. Since there is already power to lift the arm, this would be easy to add on to the existing arm.

Bilyclub 09-22-2023 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dtennent (Post 2259337)
What a great idea. Since there is already power to lift the arm, this would be easy to add on to the existing arm.


It might or might not be easy. Since this is TV it would be $1000 to install plus the cost of the lights. It would also have to be able to freely break away when hit. There are a good number of gates here. The majority should not have to pay for the minority who hit the gates.

retiredguy123 09-22-2023 07:52 AM

If this is about saving money, my guess is that it won't because the extra cost to replace a broken gate will increase, but there will still be about the same number of gates that get hit.

Bill14564 09-22-2023 09:06 AM

Perhaps the best way to implement this solution would be for those who feel they are likely to hit the gates to move to Corsica.

MrFlorida 09-22-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dtennent (Post 2259337)
What a great idea. Since there is already power to lift the arm, this would be easy to add on to the existing arm.

But there will be a wire connected to the arm to power the lights, so the wire will be ripped out when you crash the gate...not a good thing.

Keefelane66 09-22-2023 09:50 AM

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villagetinker 09-22-2023 09:55 AM

The gate arms are under COUNTY jurisdiction and COUNTY/FLORIDA rules and regulations, I had suggested years ago to simply add a bright yellow triangle to the gate arms and this was shot down by the state.

GrnThumb 09-22-2023 10:24 AM

Villagetinker, I sent you a private message.

EastCoastDawg 09-22-2023 10:34 AM

The gates get hit because they are hard to see under certain light conditions.

This point has been discussed ad nauseam on TOTV but it's hard to argue that people can see the gates yet still choose to drive through them.

Thus, making them more visible, by whatever means, is bound to reduce the number of hits.

Whether fewer hits of more expensive arms will save money is debatable, but surely it's worth trying a few new ideas (whether it's lights, bigger reflectors, yellow triangles) rather than just sticking with the status quo.

Two Bills 09-22-2023 10:58 AM

The color blind will be along shortly complaining that they cannot see the color of the lights. :icon_wink:

phylt 09-22-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2259465)
The gate arms are under COUNTY jurisdiction and COUNTY/FLORIDA rules and regulations, I had suggested years ago to simply add a bright yellow triangle to the gate arms and this was shot down by the state.

Could NOT agree more. Thanks V.T. for your efforts.

We both (very rarely, but still) have a bit of difficulty seeing the arms, esp at dusk or very low light. We are very careful, but.

Have always thought a bright STOP sign or Yellow triangle, as you suggest would be valuable. These would not necessarily need to be lit, but bright reflective. I've seen signs like this in a store or two, made of light plastic with plastic waffle weave in the middle for strength. Could be mounted with two screws, in the middle of the arm.

ANYTHING could help visibility.

Hard to believe how ignorant County gvt can be. stupid...

Bill14564 09-22-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2259483)
Could NOT agree more. Thanks V.T. for your efforts.

We both (very rarely, but still) have a bit of difficulty seeing the arms, esp at dusk or very low light. We are very careful, but.

Have always thought a bright STOP sign or Yellow triangle, as you suggest would be valuable. These would not necessarily need to be lit, but bright reflective. I've seen signs like this in a store or two, made of light plastic with plastic waffle weave in the middle for strength. Could be mounted with two screws, in the middle of the arm.

ANYTHING could help visibility.

Hard to believe how ignorant County gvt can be. stupid...

Interesting comment.

Are they ignorant or are they wise enough to follow Federal and State law?

Bill14564 09-22-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastDawg (Post 2259479)
The gates get hit because they are hard to see under certain light conditions.

This point has been discussed ad nauseam on TOTV but it's hard to argue that people can see the gates yet still choose to drive through them.

Thus, making them more visible, by whatever means, is bound to reduce the number of hits.

Whether fewer hits of more expensive arms will save money is debatable, but surely it's worth trying a few new ideas (whether it's lights, bigger reflectors, yellow triangles) rather than just sticking with the status quo.

That is doubtful. I have yet to see someone say they hit a gate because they couldn't see it. From what has been reported by the District, seen by other drivers, or recorded in some few video clips, many (most?) gate strikes are due to attempting to get through a gate by following too closely to the vehicle ahead. Visibility isn't going to help when the gate comes down on the top of the vehicle.

phylt 09-22-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2259486)
Interesting comment.

Are they ignorant or are they wise enough to follow Federal and State law?

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NOT wise at all. Apparently ignorant of the facts. Laws are NOT perfect. And can be overridden, amended, or cancelled. I would like to see the "State or Federal law" that dictates that gates arms in local areas cannot have a light or sign to alert drivers. If there actually is - again - Stupid.


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