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Rainger99 09-30-2024 07:11 PM

Pete Rose dead
 
Should he get into the Hall of Fame now??


MLB hit king Pete Rose dead at 83 - Yahoo Sports

retiredguy123 09-30-2024 07:26 PM

When I heard he charged kids and other fans for an autograph, I lost all respect for him.

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375146)
Should he get into the Hall of Fame now??


MLB hit king Pete Rose dead at 83 - Yahoo Sports

Sure....just as soon as they let Bonds, McGuire, Clemens et al in. Yes all were on the juice but many others were as well and it’s well known MLB was complicit in that steroid era.
Rose was hard headed and probably would’ve got in if he just admitted his wrongdoing....unfortunately, he didn’t until it was too late. It’s just silly to me since the HOF in most sports is about your accomplishments in the game....not your character. If it was about the latter, a good percentage of these HOF would have a lot of empty spaces

Rainger99 09-30-2024 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375157)
Sure....just as soon as they let Bonds, McGuire, Clemens et al in. Yes all were on the juice but many others were as well and it’s well known MLB was complicit in that steroid era.
Rose was hard headed and probably would’ve got in if he just admitted his wrongdoing....unfortunately, he didn’t until it was too late. It’s just silly to me since the HOF in most sports is about your accomplishments in the game....not your character. If it was about the latter, a good percentage of these HOF would have a lot of empty spaces

How about Shoeless Joe??

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375160)
How about Shoeless Joe??

I listed several that I believe should be first ballot HOF. Of course there are many more. I don’t like some of these compromised baseball writers controlling the votes with their holier than thou narratives. Wish there was another way

Rainger99 09-30-2024 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375153)
When I heard he charged kids and other fans for an autograph, I lost all respect for him.

During his playing and managing career, Pete Rose earned a total of $7.1 million in salaries. His highest-earning year was 1986 when the Cincinnati Reds paid Rose $1 million for managing the team.

That is a lot money but it is a pittance to what the top players make now.

I saw an interview with Mickey Mantle shortly before he died. Mantle made $1,128,000 during his entire career playing with the Yankees. At that time Roger Clemens was making more than $5 million a year. Mantle said that Clemens would more by Memorial Day than he did in his entire career.

Caymus 09-30-2024 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375153)
When I heard he charged kids and other fans for an autograph, I lost all respect for him.

I remember seeing him a few times at the Las Vegas Caesars signing autographs.

Shipping up to Boston 09-30-2024 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375166)
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During his playing and managing career, Pete Rose earned a total of $7.1 million in salaries. His highest-earning year was 1986 when the Cincinnati Reds paid Rose $1 million for managing the team.

That is a lot money but it is a pittance to what the top players make now.

I saw an interview with Mickey Mantle shortly before he died. Mantle made $1,128,000 during his entire career playing with the Yankees. At that time Roger Clemens was making more than $5 million a year. Mantle said that Clemens would more by Memorial Day than he did in his entire career.

Sorry to cross sports....but it’s all relative to the times. Bobby Orr’s first contract was a 2 year 70K deal! I believe the Bruins also took care of finishing the siding on his parents home in Parry Sound in Canada

retiredguy123 09-30-2024 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375166)
He made

During his playing and managing career, Pete Rose earned a total of $7.1 million in salaries. His highest-earning year was 1986 when the Cincinnati Reds paid Rose $1 million for managing the team.

That is a lot money but it is a pittance to what the top players make now.

I saw an interview with Mickey Mantle shortly before he died. Mantle made $1,128,000 during his entire career playing with the Yankees. At that time Roger Clemens was making more than $5 million a year. Mantle said that Clemens would more by Memorial Day than he did in his entire career.

I don't get your point. It doesn't change my opinion at all.

asianthree 09-30-2024 09:12 PM

He was next door neighbor of close friends. Attended events at his home couple of times before the scandal, and once after he was banned.
Ban was a Hugh topic for years, I met many in that neighborhood that lost respect because of his actions. Rose never impressed me before he was caught, didn’t change much after the ban.

Just my opinion, but a life banned athlete, shouldn’t be allowed in any HOF.

Rainger99 09-30-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375172)
I don't get your point. It doesn't change my opinion at all.

I believe your point was that he shouldn’t charge for autographs. My point was that he probably needed the money.

I was at a mall a few years ago and Hank Aaron was charging for autographs.

Do you respect him?

And lots of athletes charge for autographs.


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Topspinmo 09-30-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375172)
I don't get your point. It doesn't change my opinion at all.


Does your opinion matter to others? No, it only matters to you. :faint:

Topspinmo 09-30-2024 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2375183)
He was next door neighbor of close friends. Attended events at his home couple of times before the scandal, and once after he was banned.
Ban was a Hugh topic for years, I met many in that neighborhood that lost respect because of his actions. Rose never impressed me before he was caught, didn’t change much after the ban.

Just my opinion, but a life banned athlete, shouldn’t be allowed in any HOF.

Naturally he was measly ball player and not doctor and owned 10 houses.

So neighbor’s skeletons wasn’t out of closets so they lost respect for him.

badkarma318 10-01-2024 12:21 AM

Setting aside the kid rape, chronic adultery, degenerate gambling, pathological lying & raging narcissistic personality because they're "off the field", he used corked bats for years, so his numbers are tainted & he will never, ever be inducted into the Hall of Fame, thankfully.

Shipping up to Boston 10-01-2024 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by topspinmo (Post 2375188)
does your opinion matter to others? No, it only matters to you. :faint:

lmao


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