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Guest 09-08-2011 04:51 PM

Texas - Proud to be Top Execution State?
 
While I was watching the debate of Republicans last night, Rick Perry got a huge round of applause when it was stated that Texas is the top state for having convicts executed. He defended it and was rather proud of his record of signing off on so many executions.

Where exactly does capital punishment fit in with the Republican view on pro-life?

If someone points to the Bible and the Ten Commandments, it says you shall not kill. The religion route does not work for either of these situations.
It would be not killing at all; not well, it is okay for certain situations and not others.

Please explain the viewpoint of the Republican of how capital punishment is a feat to be applauded but an abortion is not acceptable. Thanks.

Guest 09-08-2011 05:20 PM

Where in the Bible does it say, "Thou shalt not kill."

If you do some research, you will learn that the correct translation is:

"Thou shalt not murder."

A big difference. In the Old Testament, G-d gives each person the right to protect yourself and your family, to include the use of deadly force if necessay.

So there is no need in defending the Pro-Life arguement.

Then since we have a court system, instead of the individual taking action against the criminal, the state now does it.

My only complaint is that it takes to long for the execution to take place.

Guest 09-08-2011 05:42 PM

Genesis 9:6
New International Version (NIV)
“Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.

Guest 09-08-2011 06:24 PM

Honest people would admit that Perry was not "proud"of carrying out the executions, but rather that he obeyed and upheld the laws Texas has put in place......as is his sworn duty.

Guest 09-08-2011 06:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391932)
Honest people would admit that Perry was not "proud"of carrying out the executions, but rather that he obeyed and upheld the laws Texas has put in place......as is his sworn duty.

:bigbow:

Guest 09-08-2011 08:47 PM

And what makes you want to believe that it was only Republicans that applauded?
We know it makes it easier for some to have everybody and everything in one box or the other or with an R or a D...except that ain't the reality.....THANK GOD!!!

Capital punishment...one is either for it or against it......not for political or religious stands...

btk

Guest 09-08-2011 09:05 PM

Liberals think it is alright to murder babies, but do not believe it is alright to murder killers. Liberals think it is normal to kill 45,000,000 babies, but it is not right to kill a murderer. Wow, what great thinking.:ohdear:

Guest 09-08-2011 09:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391978)
Liberals think it is alright to murder babies, but do not believe it is alright to murder killers. Liberals think it is normal to kill 45,000,000 babies, but it is not right to kill a murderer. Wow, what great thinking.:ohdear:

C'mon VG, you know they're "just a collection of cells".

Guest 09-08-2011 10:34 PM

One if the upcoming executions in the state of Texas is going to be Lawrence Russell Brewer. Buggy, I would not object to this man being aborted from his prison cell in the same manner a late-term abortion is performed. A pliers-like instrument is used because the Brewer’s bones are calcified, as is the skull. There is no anesthetic for Brewer. The abortionist inserts the instrument up into the prison cell, seizes a leg or other part of the body, and, with a twisting motion, tears it from Brewer's body. This is repeated again and again. The spine must be snapped, and the skull crushed to remove them.

http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_...mester%20ones?


Summary of incident that led to Brewer's death sentence:

Brewer was convicted in the murder of a black male occurring on 06/07/98. The offense involved Brewer and two co-defendants torturing and killing a 49-year old handicapped black male during the nighttime hours, in rural Jasper County, Texas. The victim was observed in the back of a pickup truck occupied by Brewer and his co-defendants. This was the last occasion the victim was seen alive by persons other than Brewer and his co-defendants. Brewer and his co-defendants drove to an isolated spot on a logging road where they beat and tormented the victim, then tied him to a logging chain, which was hooked to the pickup truck. Brewer and his co-defendants then dragged the victim to his death, leaving his decapitated and dismembered body to be found the following day by citizens and law enforcement officials. It was argued in court that Brewer and his co-defendants engaged in this criminal act, in part, due to their racially separatist affiliation with the Confederate Knights of America and the Ku Klux Klan. Brewer and one co-defendant were documented members of the Confederate Knights of Americaand a large number of Ku Klux Klan and other racial separatist organization paraphernalia was discovered in a residence occupied by the three.




http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/sch...executions.htm

Guest 09-09-2011 10:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391992)
C'mon VG, you know they're "just a collection of cells".

I am totally in favor of the death penalty. THERE, now you guys can not say ALL liberals are against it. Many liberals support the death penalty.

Guest 09-09-2011 10:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391921)
Genesis 9:6
New International Version (NIV)
“Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.

Does this mean that all killing is bad? Self defense? Protecting your family? WHOEVER sheds human blood..." I don't think so. How does this line up with an eye for an eye? Is there more to this passage?

Guest 09-09-2011 10:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391921)
Genesis 9:6
New International Version (NIV)
“Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.

If you read that very carefully, what is said is that if a human (man, women, etc.,) sheds your blood, then you can shed theirs, for you are made in the image of G-d and have the right to protect yourself and your family. In the old days, that also included your possessions.

Guest 09-09-2011 04:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392095)
If you read that very carefully, what is said is that if a human (man, women, etc.,) sheds your blood, then you can shed theirs, for you are made in the image of G-d and have the right to protect yourself and your family. In the old days, that also included your possessions.

Thanks for clarifying the passage

Guest 09-09-2011 05:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 391978)
Liberals think it is alright to murder babies, but do not believe it is alright to murder killers. Liberals think it is normal to kill 45,000,000 babies, but it is not right to kill a murderer. Wow, what great thinking.:ohdear:

Blanket statement and generalization. Just like all white folk Tea Party members are racists. All Jews are cheap. Blacks will rob and rape you....

All life is sacred. We are made in His image and likeness.

Guest 09-09-2011 05:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 392235)
Blanket statement and generalization. Just like all white folk Tea Party members are racists. All Jews are cheap. Blacks will rob and rape you....

All life is sacred. We are made in His image and likeness.

Too bad that blanket statements come from both sides of the spectrum too.
Of course, I couldn't agree more with your statement that ALL LIFE IS SACRED! We ARE made in His image and likeness! How wonderful is that!:laugh:


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