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k2at 01-20-2012 05:45 AM

Group golf scheduling problem
 
Our group of between 15 and 30 individuals plays golf regularly on Mondays when an executive course is available. Recently or more specifically, we have been shut out of the system twice in the last two months with the exclamation "The system was unable to accomodate this request". Some of the individuals have 0 points for the previous week and some have as many as 3 o 4 points. We request from 12 to 15 different courses and our window to play runs from 8 AM to 1:30 PM. Obviously, every day more demands are made on the available tee times as more and more houses are sold, but it is also a source of frustration to the group when we get shut out.

Are any other groups experiencing the same problem and what is your "take" on this situation? Your comments would be much appreciated.

zcaveman 01-20-2012 07:07 AM

I schedule for a group of 16 but we play on Saturday. My range is 8:30 to 2 PM. We usually get a 9 - 10 start. Last week it was 1:16.

My group of four is hit and miss on Monday and Wednesday. Mostly miss these days.

I think that there is a way to schedule groups. You can call the Tee Time system number and find out. I think that the only problem is that you are stuck on the same course all of the time.

memason 01-20-2012 08:00 AM

I schedule a group of 16 on Friday afternoons. My range is 2:00 ~ 4:00 and 16 executive courses (everything south of 466). My priority is always on time at 3:00. Th is is the first week I have not gotten my requested time. This week it's 3:26 for the first group out.

But, it IS getting harder. Last week, we got the 14th course out of 16. This week, it was the 2nd, but it had to be the 2nd time thru the courses, since it couldn't satisfy my time priority.

It really boggles the mind at the complexity of the software that assigns tee times in TV.

Hit 'em straight...

graciegirl 01-20-2012 08:04 AM

It is because........THE BIRDS ARE BACK!!!


texasfal 01-20-2012 09:03 AM

We discovered that if you break the group up into 2 or more groups until the snowbirds leave, you'll stand a better chance of getting a tee time. Then you just coordinate where to go afterwards for refreshments and lying about your game.

spk7951 01-20-2012 09:31 AM

My Monday exec group got shut out for this coming Monday for the 1st time this winter. We usually have 16 - 20 players, time range of 10:30 - 2:30 and list all but 2 or 3 exec courses. Play points can range from 0 to 4. Last winter I believe we got shut out two or three times but the rest of the year we never have a problem getting a tee time. January thru April is just the "busy" season.

RichieLion 01-20-2012 11:24 AM

Our regular Friday group has been turned down for the second time in 3 weeks. We're already split into two groups of 7 foursomes which always was accepted. Now we're going to split into 3 groups and see if that helps.

The "birds are back", as Gracie aptly points out, and our group is even larger because of our returning friends and the golf courses are busier with all the other birds.

A few new Executive Courses will be much welcomed.

tpop1 01-20-2012 12:07 PM

Same Here....
 
Groups here in my neighborhood are being shut out also over the past few weeks.

Lots on new houses with no new executive courses!

New executive courses not scheduled to open for 1 -1/2 years, according to an Ambassador friend of mine.

Its going to be a long 2 winters!:undecided:

zcaveman 01-20-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 442898)
It is because........THE BIRDS ARE BACK!!!

And the renters are in town using the resident priviledges.

Bogie Shooter 01-20-2012 01:26 PM

For what its worth, from thevillages.net.

Group Request Processing

A Group Request is used when you want to request a tee time for more than a foursome.

There are a couple of ways to create Group Requests. You can set up a single request if you have anywhere from 5 to 32 players. Problems arise in the winter months when tee times are tight and some of the players have lots of points. The point weight becomes a factor. With this method, all of the players' points become a factor in getting a reservation.

There is a second way to create a Group Request where you can create multiple requests of smaller groups and group the players so that the players in each request are matched so they have fewer points as a request group. The restriction on this type of group request is that you have to be a member of the first group and the remaining requests must be for the exact same day and times and the same course selections. Using this method, there is no guarantee that all of the groups will play, or play on the same courses but the groups that play will play at the same time.

hedoman 01-20-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k2at (Post 442865)
Our group of between 15 and 30 individuals plays golf regularly on Mondays when an executive course is available. Recently or more specifically, we have been shut out of the system twice in the last two months with the exclamation "The system was unable to accomodate this request". Some of the individuals have 0 points for the previous week and some have as many as 3 o 4 points. We request from 12 to 15 different courses and our window to play runs from 8 AM to 1:30 PM. Obviously, every day more demands are made on the available tee times as more and more houses are sold, but it is also a source of frustration to the group when we get shut out.

Are any other groups experiencing the same problem and what is your "take" on this situation? Your comments would be much appreciated.

GOOD luck with that. Our group has all priority memberships and we get whatever we want, when we want..... +/- 1/2 hour
Tis' the season..........

784caroline 01-20-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 443092)
GOOD luck with that. Our group has all priority memberships and we get whatever we want, when we want..... +/- 1/2 hour
Tis' the season..........

Arent you talking apples and oranges for "priority" membership only applies to Championship golf and this thread has been about Executive golf. Also if I remember correctly, last year, if one member of the group was NOT a priority member, it was not that easy to get your tee times on the championship courses

Ebsmom 01-20-2012 04:00 PM

re Group Golfing Scheduling
 
Can someone explain the points mentioned? We look forward to possibly moving to TV.. and plan to enjoy golf. How difficult is it to get tee times for a twosome during the Winter Season? Is the problem of tee times just an issue with large groups getting tee times primarily?
Thanks for all input..
Ebsmom~

captg 01-20-2012 04:06 PM

:cus: It is hard to get a Tee time at any time right now and it is getting harder each week. Don't believe the sales pitch of fee golf for life. This goes for singles, couples or groups.:ohdear:

rubicon 01-20-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 784caroline (Post 443095)
Arent you talking apples and oranges for "priority" membership only applies to Championship golf and this thread has been about Executive golf. Also if I remember correctly, last year, if one member of the group was NOT a priority member, it was not that easy to get your tee times on the championship courses

Apples/oranges is correct. However as respects championships courses I am somewhat disappointed by the priority system. It really begins with lifestyle/renters first, then priority members ( I am a priority menber) then priority/guests then priority /residents then residents.
So what you have are guests who are getting better access than residents who have made a huge financial investment here, and based primarily on paying golf.


As to executive courses. It is really unfair to have one large group eat up all the good tee times . Given that the population is quickly increasing and we are getting more and more renters who are sharing expenses with two to four other couples places a real stress on the executive courses and eventually it will not matter what time of year it is occurring.

Not only is it unfair to have these groups eat upall the good tee times they also slow up play badly.


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