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Guest 04-09-2012 01:32 PM

We are lucky here in Florida that anyone who doesn't have a voter ID doesn't need one to vote by mail. All a person needs to do is call and request a mail in ballot. No ID required. I expect that churches, etc, will really be advocating to their parishiners to take advantage of the mail-in ballots.

Guest 04-09-2012 01:46 PM

Let's set aside for just a moment the politics of this issue. Ask yourself would you accept a check from a person that refused to verify who they are with a photo ID? I could go on with a dozen more (Would you) questions. Our democracy depends on the election of leaders based on the majority via electoral college.

Anyone rejecting the photo ID card requirement places our free democracy at risk. Just ask the Russian people, Venezulian people, Etc.

Every citizen legally entitled to vote should be required to present a photo ID card to verify their letigimacy. We simply cannot afford fradulent voting.

States have offered free photo ID cards to any citizen. So what's the next excuse . Eric Holder's arguments are weak and transparent

Guest 04-09-2012 04:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477258)
Let's set aside for just a moment the politics of this issue. Ask yourself would you accept a check from a person that refused to verify who they are with a photo ID? I could go on with a dozen more (Would you) questions. Our democracy depends on the election of leaders based on the majority via electoral college.

Anyone rejecting the photo ID card requirement places our free democracy at risk. Just ask the Russian people, Venezulian people, Etc.

Every citizen legally entitled to vote should be required to present a photo ID card to verify their letigimacy. We simply cannot afford fradulent voting.

States have offered free photo ID cards to any citizen. So what's the next excuse . Eric Holder's arguments are weak and transparent

Exactly! If a cop pulls you over what is the first thing he asks for? I can't believe there are people so naive as to believe everyone is going to tell the truth and we don't need to verify who they are. The state will issue an official ID. Of course you must show you are who you say you are. If you have a problem with that then we don't want you voting. We want only verified citizens deciding who is going to lead OUR country.

Guest 04-09-2012 04:39 PM

Liberals are really the mind numbed robots they call Republicans. The liberal line as promoted by the administration and it's compliant national media is; "registration is no good, because is disenfranchises Americans at the polling place who cannot or will not carry identification". The fact that you cannot conduct any other important business in this country without proof of identification is irrelevant to the observant liberal.

They couldn't care less about the rights or wrongs of this issue, they do what they're told.

Guest 04-09-2012 04:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477354)
Liberals are really the mind numbed robots they call Republicans. The liberal line as promoted by the administration and it's compliant national media is; "registration is no good, because is disenfranchises Americans at the polling place who cannot or will not carry identification". The fact that you cannot conduct any other important business in this country without proof of identification is irrelevant to the observant liberal.

They couldn't care less about the rights or wrongs of this issue, they do what they're told.

What do you tell the elderly African-American person who uses maybe their social security card, voter registration or a utility bill as identification because that's all they have, but none of them are acceptable as ID to vote because they don't have a photo? This person can't go to the DMV for a free voter ID card, since they were not allowed to be born in a hospital due to their race, and there is no birth certificate or record of them ever being born. I would imagine this situation is not uncommon only among the elderly, but anyone born before the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.

Lucky for us here in Florida, you don't need voter ID to vote by mail so this elderly person can vote by just calling and requesting a mail-in ballot. Not all states have this advantage.

Some residents of TV who moved here from other parts of Florida may be surprised on election day when they're not allowed to vote if they haven't changed their address. Part of the new law does not allow you to change your address on election day.

Guest 04-09-2012 05:58 PM

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Forget the source? LOL - the entire basis for this thread is O'Keefe, who is a phony - just like this thread.

You were far more entertaining when you were whinning about birth certificates.

What difference does the source make as long as it is true, real and actual ?

It ACTUALLY HAPPENED...and the DOJ had a response like this...

"“It’s no coincidence that these so-called examples of rampant voter fraud consistently turn out to be manufactured ones.”

They are correct, no question about it...NO voter fraud, but what happened was true. The folks you question were very careful to get it on camera, to never even say that he WAS Holder thus not impersonating and never tried to vote.

And what is strange, as states pass laws requiring them (Pennsylvania being the most recent) the DOJ ignores things like when Indiana's really strict voter id law was upheld by the US Supreme Court 6-3 and written by a LIBERAL justice.

There is an article out today about how the FBI is concerned about our liberal (not intended to be political) attitude throughout the world is allowing SPIES to enter our universities all over the globe. We already have voter id law in more than half of our states and yet the United States Department of Justice opposes it.

Our DOJ is actually blocking implementing in two states.

Guest 04-09-2012 06:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477368)
What do you tell the elderly African-American person who uses maybe their social security card, voter registration or a utility bill as identification because that's all they have, but none of them are acceptable as ID to vote because they don't have a photo? This person can't go to the DMV for a free voter ID card, since they were not allowed to be born in a hospital due to their race, and there is no birth certificate or record of them ever being born. I would imagine this situation is not uncommon only among the elderly, but anyone born before the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.

Lucky for us here in Florida, you don't need voter ID to vote by mail so this elderly person can vote by just calling and requesting a mail-in ballot. Not all states have this advantage.

Some residents of TV who moved here from other parts of Florida may be surprised on election day when they're not allowed to vote if they haven't changed their address. Part of the new law does not allow you to change your address on election day.

That's an interesting concern. I know a few caucasians who were also born at home. Must have been a real pain for them to get birth certificates too.

Guest 04-09-2012 06:11 PM

True the Vote
 
there is an organization dedicated to seeking out voter fraud and preventing it....True the Vote...i am sure if you google it you will get all kinds of actual statistics on how often this has been discovered...way too often!!!

Guest 04-09-2012 06:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477391)
That's an interesting concern. I know a few caucasians who were also born at home. Must have been a real pain for them to get birth certificates too.

I am going to investigate my home state of PA at some point, but if they worked they had to have a SSN.....paystubs, bank accounts, etc. I know some state will allow that as ID.

And someone mentioned someone moving and not changing their address. To me, this is just an extension of our already simply undercutting any personal responsibility ! To me, if that happens that is YOUR fault and totally irresponsible.

There will be concerns always and the groups against it are pretty predictable, but what is obscene is our own DOJ.

Guest 04-09-2012 07:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477397)
I am going to investigate my home state of PA at some point, but if they worked they had to have a SSN.....paystubs, bank accounts, etc. I know some state will allow that as ID.

And someone mentioned someone moving and not changing their address. To me, this is just an extension of our already simply undercutting any personal responsibility ! To me, if that happens that is YOUR fault and totally irresponsible.

There will be concerns always and the groups against it are pretty predictable, but what is obscene is our own DOJ.

If it were only as simple as using a SSN, paystubs, bank accounts, etc. Unfortunately, some states are requiring a state issued photo ID. In Florida, you can't even get in the door to renew your drivers license or state issued ID without a birth certificate or passpost. In Texas, they will accept a gun license but not a college ID issued from a state run school.

Guest 04-09-2012 08:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477414)
If it were only as simple as using a SSN, paystubs, bank accounts, etc. Unfortunately, some states are requiring a state issued photo ID. In Florida, you can't even get in the door to renew your drivers license or state issued ID without a birth certificate or passpost. In Texas, they will accept a gun license but not a college ID issued from a state run school.

I think all that is good

Guest 04-09-2012 08:31 PM

Voter ID
 
YES to an ID. Also, I want to hear how Holder tries to gets out of this one!

Guest 04-09-2012 08:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477462)
YES to an ID. Also, I want to hear how Holder tries to gets out of this one!

I would suppose the same way he keeps protecting the action of the Black Panthers which I think is criminal, and literally so, based on hate speech which is a violation of the law. That is to simply ignore it because he is NEVER called out on what he does or does not do.

Guest 04-09-2012 09:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477466)
I would suppose the same way he keeps protecting the action of the Black Panthers which I think is criminal, and literally so, based on hate speech which is a violation of the law. That is to simply ignore it because he is NEVER called out on what he does or does not do.

...and exactly why (in your opinion) is AG Holder never called out on what he does or does not do?

Guest 04-09-2012 10:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477475)
...and exactly why (in your opinion) is AG Holder never called out on what he does or does not do?

He is the highest law man in the land. To whom do we report him? The lier?


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