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scarecrow1 12-15-2012 09:35 AM

pretty sad
 
I think its pretty sad that you can only put three slugs in a shotgun when your hunting deer but you can put a hundred round it a semi-automatic gun for protection. I think the deer are safer than we are.:sad:

Mudder 12-15-2012 11:21 AM

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Golfingnut 12-15-2012 11:43 AM

It appears that the folks with unstable minds as seen in this recent horrific shooting and the minds of criminals who are also unstable have the interest in assault rifles and automatic pistols with mega fire clips. I think you will find that normal hunters and sportsmen do not have the desire for these destructive fire arms. When I hunt, I can kill any thing I am after with a 12 gauge shot gun or one of two rifles, a 30-30 or a 22. There are exceptions, but if you feel the need for these automatic killing machines, I would hope you take it upon yourself to have an outside evaluation to verify your mental capabilities.

I for one do not want to take guns out of the hands of responsible hunters or target sportsman, but something has to be done and fast about the weapons designed and used to kill mass amounts of human beings. We should all be ashamed of a government that continues to allow these mass executions.

justjim 12-15-2012 12:24 PM

In 2009, 31,347 Americans were killed by guns. In the UK 39. You can google "gun control" and get all kinds of similar data. All assault weapons are illegal in the UK. The assault weapons Ban Act of 1994 was not renewed in 2004---thanks largely to the NRA. The NRA sort of reminds me of some Labor Unions that some place in time have lost their way and no longer seem to have a common sense approach to today's issues and problems. Hopefully, some common sense gun control will come out of the Newtown massive murder of our innocent children.

Cantwaittoarrive 12-15-2012 01:40 PM

I don't believe it's a gun issue. I believe it's a mental health issue. I think the changes that need to be made have to do with getting and paying for mental health care, not changing the number of rounds in a clip. A mentally stable person would not shoot up a school, mall, church or workplace even if they had access to 500 round clips

lovesports 12-15-2012 01:46 PM

Why does anyone need an assault weapon.??

Cantwaittoarrive 12-15-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 594968)
In 2009, 31,347 Americans were killed by guns. In the UK 39. You can google "gun control" and get all kinds of similar data. All assault weapons are illegal in the UK. The assault weapons Ban Act of 1994 was not renewed in 2004---thanks largely to the NRA. The NRA sort of reminds me of some Labor Unions that some place in time have lost their way and no longer seem to have a common sense approach to today's issues and problems. Hopefully, some common sense gun control will come out of the Newtown massive murder of our innocent children.

Many more people were also killed by drunk drivers in the USA than were killed in the UK lets take away cars, golf carts, motorcycles and then we won't have to worry about being killed by drunk drivers either. Actually more people in the USA were killed by cars than guns, so that proves we need to take away cars

Cantwaittoarrive 12-15-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 595014)
Why does anyone need an assault weapon.??

It's a right to bear arms afford by the US constitution and sealed by the blood of many citizens. It doesn't matter if some don't see the need, that's why it's a right

Wi11iam 12-15-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 595014)
Why does anyone need an assault weapon.??

What a horrific tradgedy...i agree with you....Why would any civilian person need an automatic weapon.
You may never be able to control all the people who are not stable and should not own or have the ability to own a weapon, but you sure could lower the casualties by not allowing these high volume weapons to be in the hands of the civilian population.
Common sense needs to prevail. If you cannot eliminate the problem then at least attempt to control it.
Just my simple mind working as logically as possible.
Very very very sad..:cry:

Figmo Bohica 12-15-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 594968)
In 2009, 31,347 Americans were killed by guns. In the UK 39. You can google "gun control" and get all kinds of similar data. All assault weapons are illegal in the UK. The assault weapons Ban Act of 1994 was not renewed in 2004---thanks largely to the NRA. The NRA sort of reminds me of some Labor Unions that some place in time have lost their way and no longer seem to have a common sense approach to today's issues and problems. Hopefully, some common sense gun control will come out of the Newtown massive murder of our innocent children.

If you carefully read the "Assualt Weapons Ban Act of 1994" you will find that it was a feel good law. The only thing it did was "BAN" some items from the firearms it covered. Read it, it is and still is a joke.

AJ32162 12-15-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesports (Post 595014)
Why does anyone need an assault weapon.??

I guess it's because of an uncertain future. Ask those living in Rwanda, Egypt, Libya, and Syria to name a few, the same question and you might get a better answer.

lovesports 12-15-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ32162 (Post 595065)
I guess it's because of an uncertain future. Ask those living in Rwanda, Egypt, Libya, and Syria to name a few, the same question and you might get a better answer.

Been to Rwanda(see gorillas) Egypt (to see Pyramids) and both countries were surprising safe. The media here had us scared but it turned out the people were friendly and we felt safe. Rwanda is especially in a new building mode.

The topic of guns never came up.

But I'm sticking by my position and stepping away from this debate. This debate is nation wide and can go on forever.

eweissenbach 12-15-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive (Post 595020)
It's a right to bear arms afford by the US constitution and sealed by the blood of many citizens. It doesn't matter if some don't see the need, that's why it's a right

There were no assault weapons available when the constitutions was written, and I doubt if any of the framers forsaw them coming. Another ridiculous argument promoted by the NRA.

Figmo Bohica 12-15-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 595070)
There were no assault weapons available when the constitutions was written, and I doubt if any of the framers forsaw them coming. Another ridiculous argument promoted by the NRA.

Yes there were assualt weapons available when the constitution was written. They were the most advanced for the time. Same as there were no computers, airplanes, cars, phone, etc., we could go on forever, but it seems that the US Constitution covers all our rights pretty good.

Cantwaittoarrive 12-15-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 595070)
There were no assault weapons available when the constitutions was written, and I doubt if any of the framers forsaw them coming. Another ridiculous argument promoted by the NRA.

I usually agree with most everything you say but to say there were no assault weapons is not true and would it also be ridiculous to say since TV's and radio's and computers weren't available our right to free speach isn't covered when using these forms of communicating?


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