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rubicon 01-14-2013 01:08 PM

In Favor or Opposed?
 
I read in the Orlando Sentinel the other day that Orange County has ordered two domestic drones for surveillance. Are domestic drones a good thing or the continuation of Big Brother and the eroision of our constitutional freedoms?

gomoho 01-14-2013 01:09 PM

Depends watch they're watching.

rubicon 01-14-2013 01:16 PM

gomoho: Who decides that? How do we know if there isn't a hidden agenda? What controls are in place to head off any misuse/abuse? Orange County will advertse their use for the safety and security of people but.....................

ijusluvit 01-14-2013 01:41 PM

Frankly I don't see much difference between drones and Google maps. Drones are just more timely. I also do not feel the least bit paranoid about 'big brother'. I don't even capitalize the words.

I live with technology comfortably and am not worried about possible 'invasions of my privacy'. Maybe it's because I don't have anything to hide.

In my view, the potential for an inappropriate government invasion of my privacy is so small as to be insignificant. This is not to say I do not take proper precautions with my identity and my private records, but that is to protect against private, criminal efforts to interfere, not government actions. It is the same as my attitude toward the Second Amendment. I've decided I don't need to possess an arsenal to protect me from the possibility that a rogue government would attack me in my home. Furthermore I feel the risks of possessing the arsenal are far greater than the risk of government attack.


I think everyone needs to make a fundamental choice about their view of government in their world. The OP makes it sound like there's a 50/50 split between potential benefits vs potential evils of things like search and surveillance technology. My view is that the ratio is closer to 99/1, benefits to evils. I love those odds in our wonderful America!

Roaddog53 01-14-2013 01:41 PM

Agree! TOTALLY against.. Where will this end? :agree::cus:

karostay 01-14-2013 01:45 PM

There going to fly surveillance over the golf courses looking for slow players.
anyone 5 mins behind allotted time we'll be taken out

Roaddog53 01-14-2013 01:47 PM

BTW... Funny this was mentioned. Last Thursday a drone was flying OVER The Villages for probably 20 minutes or so. It was pretty obvious. Kept flying in very tight circles and slowly moving west. . We wondered what was going on.

Serenoa 01-14-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Roaddog53 (Post 608852)
BTW... Funny this was mentioned. Last Thursday a drone was flying OVER The Villages for probably 20 minutes or so. It was pretty obvious. Kept flying in very tight circles and slowly moving west. . We wondered what was going on.

Hmmm......last thursday was warm & sunny in TV, correct?

Some perv back at the command center spotted a nudist taking advantage? :laugh:

Cedwards38 01-14-2013 02:00 PM

I don't have any strong feelings about this, one way or the other, but just for curiosity sake, what would you imagine the "hidden agenda" might be?

Cantwaittoarrive 01-14-2013 02:09 PM

Big Brother, I'm against this invasion of privacy

Golfingnut 01-14-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 608848)
Frankly I don't see much difference between drones and Google maps. Drones are just more timely. I also do not feel the least bit paranoid about 'big brother'. I don't even capitalize the words.

I live with technology comfortably and am not worried about possible 'invasions of my privacy'. Maybe it's because I don't have anything to hide.

In my view, the potential for an inappropriate government invasion of my privacy is so small as to be insignificant. This is not to say I do not take proper precautions with my identity and my private records, but that is to protect against private, criminal efforts to interfere, not government actions. It is the same as my attitude toward the Second Amendment. I've decided I don't need to possess an arsenal to protect me from the possibility that a rogue government would attack me in my home. Furthermore I feel the risks of possessing the arsenal are far greater than the risk of government attack.


I think everyone needs to make a fundamental choice about their view of government in their world. The OP makes it sound like there's a 50/50 split between potential benefits vs potential evils of things like search and surveillance technology. My view is that the ratio is closer to 99/1, benefits to evils. I love those odds in our wonderful America!

I agree with you and I am sickened by the constant paranoia and insinuation of government conspiracies. Just childish and foolish dribble. I always wonder what perversion or illegal activity folks are involved in that are afraid of being watched or heard. If my leaders say it is for safety reasons, they can put a camera with microphone in my house. I AM NOT ASHAMED OF ANYTHING I DO AND I AM NOT HIDING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

JoeC1947 01-14-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 608858)
I agree with you and I am sickened by the constant paranoia and insinuation of government conspiracies. Just childish and foolish dribble. I always wonder what perversion or illegal activity folks are involved in that are afraid of being watched or heard. If my leaders say it is for safety reasons, they can put a camera with microphone in my house. I AM NOT ASHAMED OF ANYTHING I DO AND I AM NOT HIDING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

Seriously? :ohdear:

Peachie 01-14-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 608858)
I agree with you and I am sickened by the constant paranoia and insinuation of government conspiracies. Just childish and foolish dribble. I always wonder what perversion or illegal activity folks are involved in that are afraid of being watched or heard. If my leaders say it is for safety reasons, they can put a camera with microphone in my house. I AM NOT ASHAMED OF ANYTHING I DO AND I AM NOT HIDING ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

I think most of us are living lives devoid of crime or illegal activities, however, I am totally against drones being used by the governments, (local or national), against it's people. To what purpose would this constant spying on the people serve? If you were to fly these at the border with Mexico and stop illegal immigration, sign me up. The potheads are slowing accomplishing the legalization of marijuana so the drones aren't needed for those activities. Is it paranoia to limit government invasion in our lives?

I think about the apathy of the German people when they allowed Hitler to restructure their government with no intervention from them. They trusted and loved their government too. I wonder how many Jews would have escaped death by hiding in others homes if drones were allowed to monitor the streets, homes, fields and so forth. How much worse would have been the decimation of the Jewish people. Have you noticed how much privacy we have lost in the last few years because of the terrorist attacks?

I don't think it's paranoia to realize "WE, the people are the government" and we need to be aware of any rights we transfer to our elected officials. It's so easy to say everything is great, don't worry be happy and not plug into life. I believe Nero fiddled while Rome burned, right?

shcisamax 01-14-2013 02:49 PM

I just don't understand the need to spend MORE money on something that there is no need for. What are they surveying that they need drones for?

gomoho 01-14-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 608871)
I just don't understand the need to spend MORE money on something that there is no need for. What are they surveying that they need drones for?

Now that is a good point - the money and what will be the return on OUR dollar?:plane:


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