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buggyone 04-25-2013 11:07 AM
Phyllis Schlafly's column 4/25
 
I got a laugh out of Phyllis' column in the Daily Sun this morning. She actually said that the Tsarnaev family should not been admitted entry to the USA based on the name of their son, Tamerlan.

The "original" Tamerlan was a 14th century warlord whose armies killed millions of people.

Based on her logic, we should never admit a family to the USA if they have a relative named Adolf or Josef (Hitler or Stalin); and conversely should admit all families who have a family member named Jesus (very popular Hispanic name).

Phyllis is going on 89 years old and statements like that makes it look like the years have taken their toll on her.

janmcn 04-25-2013 11:18 AM
Just wondering what other newspaper in the country, besides The Daily Sun, carries this woman's column?

buggyone 04-25-2013 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 666196)
Just wondering what other newspaper in the country, besides The Daily Sun, carries this woman's column?
Well, according to Google on the Internet - there are about 100 newspapers that carry the column.

If it is on the Internet, it has to be true! uhh, bon jour.

DaleMN 04-25-2013 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 666192)
I got a laugh out of Phyllis' column in the Daily Sun this morning. She actually said that the Tsarnaev family should not been admitted entry to the USA based on the name of their son, Tamerlan.

The "original" Tamerlan was a 14th century warlord whose armies killed millions of people.

Based on her logic, we should never admit a family to the USA if they have a relative named Adolf or Josef (Hitler or Stalin); and conversely should admit all families who have a family member named Jesus (very popular Hispanic name).

Phyllis is going on 89 years old and statements like that makes it look like the years have taken their toll on her.
You're probably too kind. :ohdear:

graciegirl 04-25-2013 12:14 PM
What newspaper or network news is totally unslanted?
 
I changed my mind. I never read editorials, ANYONES. I just don't.

But I read this one.

The part about the name really wasn't laughable. I didn't agree with everything........

blueash 04-25-2013 01:49 PM
You know ageism is as offensive to some as any other form of prejudice. If her views are repugnant it is not because she is 89, it is because of her views. Jimmy Carter is 88 and by the way looked great and spoke well today at the opening of the Bush library.

graciegirl 04-25-2013 02:29 PM
What I am hearing on the news is really making me feel much more troubled about this whole issue. I try to be open minded, but .....

rubicon 04-25-2013 04:00 PM
Tamerian the war lord also made his mark by building pyramids of the skulls of those he vanquished...........

senior citizen 04-25-2013 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 666192)
I got a laugh out of Phyllis' column in the Daily Sun this morning. She actually said that the Tsarnaev family should not been admitted entry to the USA based on the name of their son, Tamerlan.

The "original" Tamerlan was a 14th century warlord whose armies killed millions of people.

Based on her logic, we should never admit a family to the USA if they have a relative named Adolf or Josef (Hitler or Stalin); and conversely should admit all families who have a family member named Jesus (very popular Hispanic name).

Phyllis is going on 89 years old and statements like that makes it look like the years have taken their toll on her.
If the parents knew that the name was the same as a 14th century war lord, why on earth did they name a newborn baby that....knowing he'd be saddled with that name for the rest of his life.

It's like naming a baby Attilla the Hun or Ghengis Khan.....

Joseph or Josef is a very common name in various naming traditions and was the Blessed Virgin Mary's spouse...........so no one really thinks of Stalin when one is named Joe or Joseph..........but Tamerlan?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-...comm_ref=false


Brian Glyn Williams: Thoughts on the 'Jihadification' of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev
Last paragraph explains the name of the elder brother.............plus the name of the younger brother..........very very interesting.

manaboutown 04-25-2013 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 666354)
If the parents knew that the name was the same as a 14th century war lord, why on earth did they name a newborn baby that....knowing he'd be saddled with that name for the rest of his life.

It's like naming a baby Attilla the Hun or Ghengis Khan.....

Joseph or Josef is a very common name in various naming traditions and was the Blessed Virgin Mary's spouse...........so no one really thinks of Stalin when one is named Joe or Joseph..........but Tamerlan?

Brian Glyn Williams: Thoughts on the 'Jihadification' of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev


Brian Glyn Williams: Thoughts on the 'Jihadification' of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev
Last paragraph explains the name of the elder brother.............plus the name of the younger brother..........very very interesting.
Or they could have named him Vlad the Impaler or Vladimir Lenin.

graciegirl 04-25-2013 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 666354)
If the parents knew that the name was the same as a 14th century war lord, why on earth did they name a newborn baby that....knowing he'd be saddled with that name for the rest of his life.

It's like naming a baby Attilla the Hun or Ghengis Khan.....

Joseph or Josef is a very common name in various naming traditions and was the Blessed Virgin Mary's spouse...........so no one really thinks of Stalin when one is named Joe or Joseph..........but Tamerlan?

Brian Glyn Williams: Thoughts on the 'Jihadification' of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev


Brian Glyn Williams: Thoughts on the 'Jihadification' of Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev
Last paragraph explains the name of the elder brother.............plus the name of the younger brother..........very very interesting.
The link was very interesting, Senior.

manaboutown 04-25-2013 05:24 PM
She certainly has an impressive curriculum vitae, that's for sure!

Phyllis Schlafly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Villages PL 04-25-2013 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 666192)
I got a laugh out of Phyllis' column in the Daily Sun this morning. She actually said that the Tsarnaev family should not been admitted entry to the USA based on the name of their son, Tamerlan.

The "original" Tamerlan was a 14th century warlord whose armies killed millions of people.

Based on her logic, we should never admit a family to the USA if they have a relative named Adolf or Josef (Hitler or Stalin); and conversely should admit all families who have a family member named Jesus (very popular Hispanic name).

Phyllis is going on 89 years old and statements like that makes it look like the years have taken their toll on her.
Perhaps you missed the point. If the family named him Tamerlan knowing the history of the original Tamerlan, then perhaps their intent was to groom him for the same war-like behavior. The name should at least send up a red flag to call for a through investigation. Especially due to the fact that he came from an area dominated by Muslims.

Anyway, I think the overall point of the column was perfectly sound. We need to be more cautious. Does anyone doubt that?

Bucco 04-25-2013 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 666430)
Perhaps you missed the point. If the family named him Tamerlan knowing the history of the original Tamerlan, then perhaps their intent was to groom him for the same war-like behavior. The name should at least send up a red flag to call for a through investigation. Especially due to the fact that he came from an area dominated by Muslims.

Anyway, I think the overall point of the column was perfectly sound. We need to be more cautious. Does anyone doubt that?
The column was very sound and had the OP even quoted or put it in context the meaning changes quite a bit. I surely do not agree with all, but it seems that a discussion of an oped should begin with truthful presentation of said op ed.

Instead of looking for substance, it appears some of the poster just wanted to make personal comments about the authors age and reference to her as a "dingbat"

OnTrack 04-25-2013 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 666430)
The name should at least send up a red flag to call for a through investigation.
Are you really serious?


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