Do they make them in jumbo for the larger physique? I don't know though. Ever since the woman astronaut got caught trying to kill someone and didn't want to stop enroute so was wearing a diaper, I just can't get excited about them. :)

Yes, I didn't think about it that way. Thanks for pointing that out.

You're welcome. I've known a few folks that have had to use them on their pooches for medical reasons. The dogs usually hate them, but they serve the purpose.

Yes

DITTO!!! Dog does not go where owner doesn't allow him to go. Leash training plus a six-foot-leash takes care of that. Owner is the boss of the dog.

Yep! Not once since I've lived here, have I ever let my dogs step one foot onto someone else's yard, not even to sniff, let alone to pee or poop. I've never understood the rational from some folks that their dogs "have to" go on someone else's property. I understand that some dogs need to walk for awhile before they do their business, and I certainly understand a dog's instinctual desire to mark. And I know from experience (as a visitor) that walking in circles around a house doesn't work very well. But that's my concern. It shouldn't be my neighbor's concern.

Wish I could train my dog to do this. All in the gutter or street, too.
 

Dog Walks, Pees With Style (VIDEO)

I will bet that Chester misses once in a while though as would any dog peeing in his or her own yard if there are no fences separated yard from yard. Even if there are fences, fences have holes where pee would drip onto the bordering yard.

Wish people would use a little common sense and kindness towards animals when addressing issues like poop and pee done my pets. I wonder if they cause as big a stink for feral cats who wander around and pee an poop where they want as well as snakes, birds, rabbits, raccoons, opossums, turtles, frogs, lizards, coyotes, bears, wildcats, feral dogs, wolves, deer, horses, armadillos, etc.

Wonder what happens when he poops. I think Chester can make it on America's Got Talent.

Had wondered how cops would view complaints about pooping pooches.
 

Unalaska police blotter: 'Persistent pooping, peeing pets' perturb people: Alaska Newsreader | Alaska news at adn.com

Quite amusing police blotter. Nice alliteration.

This is also hilarious-- http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-unalas...tory?track=rss

"Animal - Petite piles of poo promulgated by pets prompted a protest to police." Sgt. Jennifer Shockley

:agree: My goodness. What a kaffuffel! Pee spots on your lawn? Never saw one of those, even around a light pole or mailbox pole. If you should get one, spray the grass with repellent.

I always carry a bag and clean up after my pups. But they get so much joy from marking after other animals. That means a drop or two. Now if you folks who object to that find a mark on your yard, please contact me and I'll have the sod people come out and repair it. :1rotfl:

Amen, well said!! I was told by my landscaper that the 2-3 feet of lawn by the street actually is called an easement and belongs to the villages. We are required to maintain it, so if my dog does his business in that space (and I do clean up after my dog) he isn't doing it on "your" lawn.

but the dog IS doing it on the easement section of the lawn that the homeowner is required to maintain - correct?

up north we paid pooper scoopeer to take care of our lawn kids did a good job

Correct! I'm curious what prompted you to start this thread since you are summering in the NJ Shore. Did you get a report
from a neighbor that a dog peed on your lawn?

Correct! I'm curious what prompted you to start this thread since you are summering in the NJ Shore. Did you get a report
from a neighbor that a dog peed on your lawn?

:agree:
Just today another owner let their dog wonder onto my lawn and was getting ready to let the dog do it's business when I asked him please do not let your dog on my lawn for their business! He didn't even look up and just said. Oh. ok. Come on "..." That was the second time THIS week a DOG owner was going to let their dog go in broad daylight on the lawn. I can only imagine how many owners at night use other's lawns when, no one is watching or they are sleeping, and they are "walking their dog" late. We know this since we go for late night rides on the cart and see owners doing this! the poop thread is aliiiive!

love2cruise -
was interested because not only do we have the problem in the villages - we also have it here at the shore. and as i read the various posts on these forums it seem apparent that many dog walkers do not share the responsibility with which i was raised to make sure our dogs took care of their business on our property before they went for a walk in the neighborhood. it was a pleasure to read that some do!

as snowbirds we always return to the villages to find our lawn a wretched mess from pee spots and spend weeks repairing them before it is time to fly north again. since we are the absentee owners on our side of the street, it seems that our property is determined by dog walkers to be fair game for their dog's needs.

i really did get a chuckle out of some of the responses - didn't you? it's good to see that some posters have a great sense of humor and others a sense of responsibility.

love2cruise - do you find it a pleasant experience to sit in front of you house with a morning coffee or evening cocktail and have to watch some dog take a dump in front of you - whether the walker picks up after the dog or not?

To answer your question, as long as the dog owner picks up after their dog I don't care. And as far as pee spots, I have yet to find one on our lawn, and my dog does pee in our yard.

This reminds me of an old lady when I was a kid and when we walked home from school if we touched a blade of her grass she would come out and yell at us. I thought then as I do now, it's only grass!

My outlook on life is, don't sweat the small stuff, and if it's not life threatening, it's small stuff!

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Enjoy the rest of you summer and safe travels back to TV.

FYI Doggie Diapers
 

are available at Whole Earth. They are disposable. When our dog is in heat I use regular pads in a doggie pant that you can get at Walmart. I don't know if a dog would hold off going and use the diaper as the receptacle. There are also diapers for males at Walmart I believe. This was in answer to Taltarzac and Cathyw's comments.

It is generally believed that the level of nitrogen in a dog’s urine determines whether or not their urine will burn grass. Not all dogs have the same levels. I’ve had dogs in the past who didn’t burn the grass. That is not the case with the dogs I have now. My backyard grass has brown pee spots all over it from my dogs. I don’t even allow my own dogs to pee on my front yard for that very reason. And I don’t appreciate it when others let their dogs go on my front yard. It’s not the end of the world when one does, I’ve never bothered to say anything to anyone, but I think it’s rude. More importantly to me is the bad rap that responsible dog owners get due to the actions of irresponsible owners. For people who don't really like dogs to begin with, it must be infuriating. TV is very pet friendly in general, but there are plenty of people who would like to place more limits on pet ownership in TV. Why give them more reason to feel that way? As njbchbum pointed out, this is not unique to TV. The same issue was a source of contention in my old neighborhood.

I think your landscaper is full of beans. An easement does not mean that TV owns that piece of land, it simply means that they have a right to access and use it for a specific purpose, such as utilities. To say that because of an easement, all villagers have a legal right to do anything they want on the front 2 feet of everyone else’s property is just silly. A few months back someone posted a link from either The Sun or a POA bulletin that addressed the issue of responsible dog ownership and it specifically stated that people should not let their dogs onto other people’s property.

i don't know about love2cruise, but i do know that the villages is not paying the property taxes on the easement on my property! ;)

No they are not, but guess what - it's theirs. Probably have the same easement on the sides and rear of your property. Such is life. The man is always in control when you live in a development. Not saying it's good or bad just sayin it is so.

Here's just one more thought I had regarding walking my dogs. One is 3 pounds and the other is 6. They both tinkle at home but, as I said before they love to mark their way around the neighborhood, drops at a time. Here's the thought. Have you ever put your hand down on the street on a hot day? I do this every time I walk the dogs. Some times it is so hot you can fry an egg there. You wouldn't walk barefoot on the pavement and I won't walk tiny dogs there either. As I also said before, if I or my dogs damage anything on your property, I will have it repaired. It's just grass, folks!

You're correct, the road is often too hot for a dogs paws. That's why we walk our dogs early in the morning or in the evening on hot days. This eliminates any necessity of my dogs trespassing on the property of others.
As Skybo points out, the easement does not tranfer ownership of that section of your property. It simply gives a right of way for specific purposes such as utilities. The property belongs to the homeowner. It's probably not advisable to go to your lawn guy for legal advice.

My Pet Peeve
 

I have to say that I'm amazed and perplexed that anyone would allow their dog to tresspass on their neighbor's property. I realize that it's a dog's nature to sniff the scent of other dogs so why not go to open areas where they can walk and sniff to their heart's content and stay off the hot pavement at the same time. It's not whether or not it ruins the grass, it's trespassing, I watched a woman allow her dog to go up to a flower bed and pee on the rose bush. What is the mentality behind that, is it a sense of entitlement? :confused:

My neighbor has a little dog who is older. He wears a doggie diaper because he sometimes has accidents in the house. It just wraps around him and prevents the owners from having to get their carpet cleaned from accidents.

Ok this is getting ridicules, who said anything about getting legal advice from a lawn person. I only said that is what I was told. Geez I thought I was getting away from old crabby people, moving to the friendliest place on earth. Guess I was wrong. As if all of you are perfect in everything you do. I'm sure not one of you ever do anything that would upset your neighbors. I'm glad there are so many perfect people, but not if you walk your dog and it happens to lift its leg on grass. Get a life! As I said before its grass, not a Persian rug.

But it's my lawn you're not sweating! And that's not small stuff to me. I don't want yellow spots all along my easement. Lucky for you your dog's urine doesn't kill the grass, but lots of dogs' do.

Granted, I think we can all agree that dogs, no matter what the size, need to be walked and exercised. We have places for that in the Villages called doggie parks. Daily buisness should be done on your own property. I played golf on Southern Star last week and found dog feces on four of nine holes. You can't even walk behind the Pennecamp Pool because it has become a dog walk where folks just let their animals do their business and deposit the feces in the garbage receptacles. The volume of dog urination in that area has killed most of the grass and now all you see is dollar weed and red clover. I own a dog owner, and I considered all the options of providing a comfortable environment for my pet before moving here. To allow damage to our common areas or our neighbor's yards is not in line with this being the friendliest hometown ever. We can all make this a better place by respecting each other. Like everything else in this world, a few people abuse the system, and then before you know it, it gets out of control because it is human nature that if it is okay for one, it is okay for all and then wow, we have a huge problem.

Sounds like Pennecamp needs a dog park.

Lots of Lynnhaven dog owners walk their pooches near the Lynnhaven pool and there are no dead spots from where dogs pee there. Most of the people walking the dogs at the Lynnhaven pool also clean up after their pets. Some even clean up poop from other dogs if they have extra bags. I have done this myself. I do think trash belongs in a trash bin. There are trash bins at the postal areas so people should be able to put their dog poop in these receptacles unless they make them only for recycling. Garbage smells. You do not have to stand near garbage cans.

I do not buy the slippery slope argument when it comes to dog poop and pee. Most of the people in the Villages look out for other people and do not seem to mind dealing with life's realities when it comes to having neighbors who have pets.

Poop and pee from dogs is a serious problem in some cities like San Francisco and New York City where there is often very little in terms of a sense of community. I just do not see those kinds of attitudes so much in the Villages.

[QUOTE=Fisherman;551310]Granted, I think we can all agree that dogs, no matter what the size, need to be walked and exercised. We have places for that in the Villages called doggie parks. [QUOTE]

I love TV. I think the Developer's vision for a paradise for retirees has been flawless. With one huge exception.

With 50,000 families living in TV at Build Out, with a potential of two dogs per household, that's 100,000 dogs. Of course, it may be only 30% of residents that own pooches, but that is still one heck of a lot of pets! There are currently only THREE dog parks in TV that are provided by the Developer. No wonder dog owners are finding it difficult to find convenient places to walk their dogs. If there were more dog parks, people wouldn't be using the Mail Stations.

Before you throw rotten tomatoes at me, we drive our dogs daily to a private dog park, which is not golf cart accessible, and we pay to use it. :throwtomatoes: However, not everyone is willing to do that, and the Mail Stations are close and convenient. In my humble opinion, The Villages definitely needs more dog parks!!

Barefoot, I can see where you're "coming from", but there are two sides to every story. I own indoor cats, and I would not expect other residents to pay for their kitty litter or play areas/toys. I love dogs for sure. But TV is set up fairly so that only golfers pay extra for golf, only fitness people pay extra for that, and if TV dog parks were run that way, I would be fine with it. If they want all residents to pay for extra new dog parks and the related maintenance, it doesn't seem fair to me compared with the way the other amenities are charged.

The amenity fee covers different things that many people never use. It would seem natural if dogs are a part of TV to provide a place for the dogs to go. Would make a lot of people happy...those that have and those that have not.

I see your point Quirky. But the Amenity fee we all pay monthly pays for a selection of many things that residents selectively use. I don't golf or play pickleball or use the pools or take zumba or play pool. But I have no problem that Amenity fees provide these options for other residents' pleasure.
Since dog walking seems to be a hugely contentious issue, it seems that more TV dog parks would make both dog lovers and dog haters happy.

even if the villages had more dog parks - how would we train the dog owners to take their dogs there?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2:

That's a no-brainer. If they build it we will come. The current parks are not sufficient. The one south of 466 is way too small to even be called a dog park. A large park with some shade would have us lining up to get it. A dog park is one of the MOST social places I have ever been and people love to bring their dogs.:doggie:

Some dogs are poorly socialized and do not get along with other pooches at all. I run into these frequently when walking my dog around Lynnhaven. Could be other reasons why some dog owners never bring their pets to the local dog parks.

No poop!

You'd probably find dog poop in the trash cans of many other municipalities and other entities around the country.

Still do not understand the need to dictate others enjoyment of the Villages by banning dog feces from postal center trash cans. That probably results in lazier people leaving it where it lies so to speak so they do not have to stink up their garage and/or automobile interior which they would smell a great deal more often than on a very quick trip to the postal center. An enclosed garage in the hot summer can get quite rancid from the poop in residents' trash. My understanding is that the postal station trash cans are emptied every night. Most of the people I see at Lynnhaven Postal Center are there for less than 2 minutes and then gone.

Sounds a lot better than the stink in a hot garage which could last for 4 days or so; in between garbage pick-ups.

I don't live in other municipalities, I live in TV........no poop in trash cans!