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retiredguy123 05-08-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2215526)
I do not know how to start a thread, or I would have done so. You mentioned tip. In the past five to ten years tipping on take-out has become the norm. I use to slide a dollar across the counter when getting my coffee at DD. Now when paying for takeout, Chinese food, a pizza etc.they leave a space on the receipt to add a tip. Last night at a Chinese take-out it showed suggested tips, 22% (with amount), 25%() and 30%. This is for takeout.I had been tipping 10% for take-out and 20 to 25 for dine in. Is 10% too low (let's assume service is fine. They put the dried rice in the bag and handed it to me.).I understand I am older and most likely not up on what is customary (I recall an Uncle who tipped 12% because that is what it had been for years). Any advice is appreciated.

First of all, I don't agree that tipping for takeout is the norm.

Second, to start a thread, click on "forum" and "all forums home". Click on the forum topic you want and select "post new thread", and then type in your "title " your "message" and click on "submit new thread".

Villages Kahuna 05-08-2023 12:03 PM

The Lighthouse used to be one of our go-to favorites when it was more of a sports bar with good, reasonably priced entrees. Now that the owners — who failed operating Augustine’s 1812 — are on their way to another failure trying to make a high-priced white tablecloth restaurant out of the Lighthouse. We’ll wait for it to fail and be “repurposed” by the next owner before we return.

TVTVTV 05-08-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by walterray1 (Post 2215416)
Can anyone say "agenda" or "troll". Please...

3 posts since 2018? That was my exact thought.

Garywt 05-08-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2215482)
Sorry ,but special orders are real pain in the kitchen, now pricing that’s another story ,no answer, communication with staff confusing. but taking an attitude to never return to restaurant you enjoy is silly but you win .

I do the same thing, especially if they take money out of your pocket. If they wanted to keep the customer they would have honored the price the wait staff gave her. Plain and simple.

golfing eagles 05-08-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2215631)
I do the same thing, especially if they take money out of your pocket. If they wanted to keep the customer they would have honored the price the wait staff gave her. Plain and simple.

But what price did the wait staff give her????? $23 total or $23 add on???? Very unclear. In either case I think it was poor management to lose what she claims is a 2x/month customer for $12

Pairadocs 05-08-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2215339)
Um, Atlantic salmon? Farm raised? Oh, nonononono.
And, "fresh"? Most likely "fresh frozen".

Yes, "fresh" flash frozen usually on the boat. Those who have visited Alaska probably understand how this is done. "Atlantic" can be any variety, raised in "ponds" in huge quantities, fish are white from lack of natural sun, and color is added to make them a pale pink. Not for most of us who truly love salmon. Fresh market has deep red sockeye from Alaska IN SEASON, sometimes on sale for $19.99 a pound. I would bet $100 that is NOT what was added for $23. Lesson learned. Just like butter fish around here is sometimes very "strange".. thin filet, not "meaty, chunky" texture, same with "grouper", interesting what sometimes passes for grouper here and around central Florida !

Pairadocs 05-08-2023 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2215526)
I do not know how to start a thread, or I would have done so. You mentioned tip. In the past five to ten years tipping on take-out has become the norm. I use to slide a dollar across the counter when getting my coffee at DD. Now when paying for takeout, Chinese food, a pizza etc.they leave a space on the receipt to add a tip. Last night at a Chinese take-out it showed suggested tips, 22% (with amount), 25%() and 30%. This is for takeout.I had been tipping 10% for take-out and 20 to 25 for dine in. Is 10% too low (let's assume service is fine. They put the dried rice in the bag and handed it to me.).I understand I am older and most likely not up on what is customary (I recall an Uncle who tipped 12% because that is what it had been for years). Any advice is appreciated.

We do, and have always, believed in (personally) rewarding those who have given exceptional service (friendly, efficient, check if anything missing or needed, hot coffee fill, and various services in hotels, cruises, etc.). HOWEVER... what you related (carryout, and places like coffee cafes, buffets, etc. that use the cash registers to "force" customers to go through a series of "tip" options, etc. have really become offensive. "Tipping" has gradually lost all meaning as tech advances have evolved into just a method of increasing the total bill, and the "custom" of personally rewarding someone with your personal "thank you" is now nothing more than a "service charge" for picking up a phoned in order ! I might add, for those who cruise often, since the days when cruising was relatively unknown and tipping was always done in a manner of PERSONAL (person to person) "thanks" to all who made the cruise so pleasant, this evolved into an automatic daily charge added to the bill in the manner of the many hotel taxes. Most recently, one cruise line tried (you can imagine the outrage) to keep a list of those who felt the service was not exceptional, and went to the hotel desk of the ship to have this, or that, tip removed. This resulted in a type of "black list" cruiser, but had to be dropped due to the push back by customers. "Way back" we often cruised on a line that required no tipping, the service was truly exceptional and the prices of the line were above the bargain lines. Even though no tipping required, the quality of the service was so high you wanted to seek our the individual employees and add additional cash along with a hand shake, sometimes even a hug, and with eye to eye contact. I know the old argument that there are just a lot of "cheap skate" (old term of my grand parents) people about, but...is that an excuse to reduce tipping to what it has become... an incentive for those who do a poor or very poor job of their assigned responsibilities to be encouraged to be even more irresponsible by receiving tips regardless. And before it all starts....LOL... Yes, I have worked many jobs that rely heavily on tips, at times in college I had as many as three such jobs at a time, and yes, I do know what it is to give my best and still get "stiffed" as we called it. But overall, the majority of people really appreciated the attentive service I always tried to provide (never hung back in the bussing area to check my phone and chat with my colleagues, had no cell phone or Facebook, or TicToc to check !) I have heard the joke among villages retail employees: What is the difference between a Villager and a canoe ? Even a canoe will tip once in awhile. I find that insulting and completely untrue. Overall, considering the limited fixed income of most retirees, most are extremely generous and understanding, even with inflation like we are experiencing, and they realize how tough it is on students and younger adults with families trying to manage on minimum wage and less. But I do maintain, if a person is very poor at their job, they should not then be encouraged to perform even worse by receiving a "tip".

Pairadocs 05-08-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by larbud (Post 2215471)
And that’s exactly why they rip people off! Acceptance of overpriced and often mis labeled mediocrity!!

There is always "voting with your feet"... that old style economics where exceptional food quality, taste, preparation, along with friendly attentive service assures repeat customers, plenty of word of mouth advertising, and a stable business. Those lacking such used to "automatically" fail due to customer dis-satisfaction ! Really got into preparing what I pronounced "exceptional" meals at home during the "pandemic". Ventured into cuisines I've never tackled at home, researched new cooking techniques and ingredients, many new recipes, etc. Now realizing, as we dine out more often again, just how "mediocre" so many meals out are ! LOL !

Stu from NYC 05-08-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2215644)
We do, and have always, believed in (personally) rewarding those who have given exceptional service (friendly, efficient, check if anything missing or needed, hot coffee fill, and various services in hotels, cruises, etc.). HOWEVER... what you related (carryout, and places like coffee cafes, buffets, etc. that use the cash registers to "force" customers to go through a series of "tip" options, etc. have really become offensive. "Tipping" has gradually lost all meaning as tech advances have evolved into just a method of increasing the total bill, and the "custom" of personally rewarding someone with your personal "thank you" is now nothing more than a "service charge" for picking up a phoned in order ! I might add, for those who cruise often, since the days when cruising was relatively unknown and tipping was always done in a manner of PERSONAL (person to person) "thanks" to all who made the cruise so pleasant, this evolved into an automatic daily charge added to the bill in the manner of the many hotel taxes. Most recently, one cruise line tried (you can imagine the outrage) to keep a list of those who felt the service was not exceptional, and went to the hotel desk of the ship to have this, or that, tip removed. This resulted in a type of "black list" cruiser, but had to be dropped due to the push back by customers. "Way back" we often cruised on a line that required no tipping, the service was truly exceptional and the prices of the line were above the bargain lines. Even though no tipping required, the quality of the service was so high you wanted to seek our the individual employees and add additional cash along with a hand shake, sometimes even a hug, and with eye to eye contact. I know the old argument that there are just a lot of "cheap skate" (old term of my grand parents) people about, but...is that an excuse to reduce tipping to what it has become... an incentive for those who do a poor or very poor job of their assigned responsibilities to be encouraged to be even more irresponsible by receiving tips regardless. And before it all starts....LOL... Yes, I have worked many jobs that rely heavily on tips, at times in college I had as many as three such jobs at a time, and yes, I do know what it is to give my best and still get "stiffed" as we called it. But overall, the majority of people really appreciated the attentive service I always tried to provide (never hung back in the bussing area to check my phone and chat with my colleagues, had no cell phone or Facebook, or TicToc to check !) I have heard the joke among villages retail employees: What is the difference between a Villager and a canoe ? Even a canoe will tip once in awhile. I find that insulting and completely untrue. Overall, considering the limited fixed income of most retirees, most are extremely generous and understanding, even with inflation like we are experiencing, and they realize how tough it is on students and younger adults with families trying to manage on minimum wage and less. But I do maintain, if a person is very poor at their job, they should not then be encouraged to perform even worse by receiving a "tip".

Very well said. Tipping has gotten way out of hand.

If we go to a sitdown restaurant and we are served we do give the server a tip. Tipping the cashier who hands us our food in a bag should not be a tipping position.

I cannot believe that on cruises we now get to tip guest services and the entertainment team. Would prefer to go back and hand tips to the people who did things for us but the cruise lines have made that impossible.

retiredguy123 05-08-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2215675)
Very well said. Tipping has gotten way out of hand.

If we go to a sitdown restaurant and we are served we do give the server a tip. Tipping the cashier who hands us our food in a bag should not be a tipping position.

I cannot believe that on cruises we now get to tip guest services and the entertainment team. Would prefer to go back and hand tips to the people who did things for us but the cruise lines have made that impossible.

I agree. Table servers are classified by the IRS as tipped employees, so they can receive a base income that is less than the minimum wage, and they get special tax treatment for their income tax. But, those who hand you a takeout bag of food are subject to the minimum wage.

NJRICHARD 05-08-2023 05:45 PM

We quit going to the Lighthouse years ago when they gave us dry martinis that left the glass 3/4 empty. I asked for the 'manager' and told her I have been drinking martinis for 40 years and never had one with this little alcohol. She said it was 2 ounces and that was how they served them. I took one of the drinks and poured it into the other and it barely came to the top! We usually ate there 2 times a week, never returned after the nasty attitude. I KNOW 2ounces is normal for a mixed drink....but not for a martini!

dewilson58 05-08-2023 06:45 PM

How, 50 post later........Lighthouse ain't as good as it was.

Hang in there....................there are options in TV.

:crap2:

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-08-2023 08:04 PM

We've only been there once, and that was just last month. The service was somewhat lacking, but the food was good and abundant.

allsport 05-09-2023 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2215339)
Um, Atlantic salmon? Farm raised? Oh, nonononono.
And, "fresh"? Most likely "fresh frozen".

Has to be atlantic and not fresh , would bet on it.

Worldseries27 05-09-2023 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tvtvtv (Post 2215626)
3 posts since 2018? That was my exact thought.

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