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retiredguy123 12-21-2024 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2395371)
The restaurant has to have a permit from the local jurisdiction to allow dogs on patios and follow certain rules. They just can’t allow it without a permit.

FL - Restaurant - 509.233. Public food service establishment requirements; local exemption for dogs | Animal Legal & Historical Center

The problem with any state or local law restricting access to dogs is that they do not apply to "service" dogs. Service dogs are regulated by the Federal ADA (Americans with disabilities) Act. If a dog owner says that their dog is a service dog, you have very limited options on restricting access to the dog. And, the dog owner doesn't need to provide any documentation or written proof that the dog is any different from any other dog. No vest or certification of any type is required. Google it.

HORNET 12-21-2024 01:40 PM

Just leave them HOME ! Allow others to enjoy their eating experiences!

HORNET 12-21-2024 01:41 PM

Me either

HORNET 12-21-2024 01:45 PM

Service dogs should for someone who is handicapped not just because you think that you have the right to infringe upon others. I see people putting little fluffy back in their carts in Publix again!

HORNET 12-21-2024 01:47 PM

Why don’t these people just grow up

Bill14564 12-21-2024 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2395373)
The problem with any state or local law restricting access to dogs is that they do not apply to "service" dogs. Service dogs are regulated by the Federal ADA (Americans with disabilities) Act. If a dog owner says that their dog is a service dog, you have very limited options on restricting access to the dog. And, the dog owner doesn't need to provide any documentation or written proof that the dog is any different from any other dog. No vest or certification of any type is required. Google it.

The concern should be less over whether the animal is a bona fide service animal and more over whether the animal is under control. A service animal that is misbehaving and not under control can be removed. An animal that might not be a service animal but is at the owner’s side and out of the way is not a problem.

Bonanza 12-21-2024 02:51 PM

Makes No Sense!
 
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2395157)
Flipper's allows you to feed your dog from the table.................I have not been back.

:censored:



And that's the only reason you haven't been back???
THAT'S a reason??!?

Bonanza 12-21-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker (Post 2395286)
Nothing like dog hair in your spaghetti. Maybe bring a stuffed animal when you go out to dinner.

Since no dogs are in a restaurant's kitchen, I don't know what's your problem.
As far as you are concerned, wash your hands after you pet your dog or don't eat spaghett.
Problem solved!

Bonanza 12-21-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2395288)
My dog/dogs lick the plates at my house..... I have a dishwasher, I assume Johnny Rockets does too.

Thank you!
Let's not forget that while a dog's mouth has bacteria, so do ours!
There isn't much of a difference.

bopat 12-21-2024 09:17 PM

I once saw a guy at Lake Sumter with a bird on his shoulder, he opened his mouth and the bird picked at his teeth.

wisbad1 12-21-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2395173)
dogs can lick the dish at johnny rockets . i have witness that .

Done with that place, terrible service and food, $$$$$$

CFrance 12-21-2024 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruckvilla (Post 2395107)
Love seeing all the dogs in the villages.
Are there any restaurants that allow dogs to join our friends for dinner when they visit? Patio areas in the squares? Country clubs?

The answer to the question posted is in post 27. Naysayers can be disregarded.
Responsible dog owners will know if their dog is well behaved enough to go to dinner in the allowable places. Hopefully dog owners are honest enough to know their dog's behavior is good enough, or leave them home.

As for people feeding their dog from the table; more info needed. Were they outside in an allowable place? If so, passing a piece of pizza from their hand to the dog on the ground is a non event.
There is the option to go inside if you don't want to see dogs at a restaurant. If a dog is misbehaving outside to the point of obstructing others' meals, complain to the management.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-21-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2395380)
The concern should be less over whether the animal is a bona fide service animal and more over whether the animal is under control. A service animal that is misbehaving and not under control can be removed. An animal that might not be a service animal but is at the owner’s side and out of the way is not a problem.

That's your opinion. But it isn't the law. And establishments (such as restaurants, fast-food chains, supermarkets, doctor's offices, department stores, phone company offices, etc etc etc) reserve the RIGHT to not allow pets - whether controlled or otherwise. That is THEIR right. You have the right to not go to these places, and they have the right to not let your pet through their doors.

Service animals are TRAINED to behave. That's an actual thing. Pets might, or might not be trained to behave. You don't get to find out until after the damage is done.

If all of this bothers you, stay home. You're allowed to, that is your right. Or you can go and be bothered by it. That is also your right. What you don't have the right to do, is bring your pet into any building owned or rented by someone other than you. That would be a privilege granted to you by the owner/tenant.

Bill14564 12-21-2024 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2395447)
That's your opinion. But it isn't the law. And establishments (such as restaurants, fast-food chains, supermarkets, doctor's offices, department stores, phone company offices, etc etc etc) reserve the RIGHT to not allow pets - whether controlled or otherwise. That is THEIR right. You have the right to not go to these places, and they have the right to not let your pet through their doors.

Service animals are TRAINED to behave. That's an actual thing. Pets might, or might not be trained to behave. You don't get to find out until after the damage is done.

If all of this bothers you, stay home. You're allowed to, that is your right. Or you can go and be bothered by it. That is also your right. What you don't have the right to do, is bring your pet into any building owned or rented by someone other than you. That would be a privilege granted to you by the owner/tenant.

I don’t believe you are right that you have the right to explain to me my rights. Or perhaps you believe you have the right to grant me rights but you would not be right about that right either.

As for my post, you are right that the first sentence is my opinion. However, the second sentence is the LAW (had to get the caps in there somehow). The third sentence is a statement of fact, neither opinion or law.

You may want to break out the law books again. Of course, it’s your right to not do that, but it would help you to be more right when making assertions about rights.

Deden 12-21-2024 11:40 PM

I have no words except... Glad I don't eat at your house.


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