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LndLocked 11-03-2013 08:34 PM

I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 773717)
I have and app in my head that detects pinheads when I read a posting written by one.


Me too.

I hate bullying by anonymous people.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773668)
NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

That is not what the OP said. He made no distinction about whether the dog is in a place allowed by law or not.

DonH57 11-03-2013 09:09 PM

Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 773728)
Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

There are mean-spirited bullies everywhere. There are also trolls.

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 773728)
Why am I not surprised an app like that could really exist. Some people actually desire to harm animals for amusement. Imagine a service dog or otherwise bolting loose for safety and causing an accident at someone's jest.

Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.
http://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/06/0...-animal-abuse/

missypie 11-03-2013 09:21 PM

Agree Grace. This is sick beyond words.

Easyrider 11-03-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773735)
Isn't harming animals some kind of risk factor for some kind of mental illness or criminal activity? They say serial killers often begin by hurting animals.

I am more than sickened by this whole thread and ask that it be closed.

Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

THE RESPONSIBILITY PROJECT
PETS & ANIMALS
UP FOR DEBATE: PUTTING PETS BEFORE PEOPLE
Is it O.K. for humans to care more for their pets than the people in their lives?
Writing in The Wall Street Journal, reporter Elizabeth Bernstein notes that “love triangles” between people and pets “might be the trickiest types of relationships.”
In the Florida home of Marina and Kirk Wolak, one-year-old German shepherd Buck gets better meals than his masters. Mrs. Wolak recently served the dog “steamed broccoli for breakfast, raw ribs for a snack, and a grilled chicken breast and baked sweet potato for dinner,” while her husband and daughter supped on simple chicken. Said Mr. Wolak, “There is only one answer to fixing the wedge between us, and that is to get rid of the dog.”

graciegirl 11-03-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773743)
Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

Carl in Tampa 11-03-2013 09:37 PM

This is simple. Florida law prohibits animals inside restaurants with the exception of Service Dogs. All other animals are prohibited.

In some jurisdictions, where specific enabling laws have been passed, pet dogs (only dogs) may be allowed in OUTSIDE dining areas.

Therefore, there can be no excuse for doing anything to discomfit Service Dogs inside a restaurant or pet dogs in an outside dining area, where authorized, since both are lawfully present.

Shame on anyone who would do so.

http://restaurantandlodging.com/stor...20Bulletin.pdf

:police:

Easyrider 11-03-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 773751)
No one is placing animals over people in this situation. I am terrified of people who would act this way. Your reasoning makes no more sense than harming someone who is smoking, by making a loud blast close to their ears. EVEN if we don't like smoking and we have an allergic reaction, we aren't allowed to harm someone.

Intelligent and fair and thoughtful people remove themselves from the situation, they don't cause harm.

Your opposing opinion is noted but it makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it is legal to smoke there then you should leave if you don't like smoke. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if you are afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. No one is complaining about true service dogs either. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Foolish to compare this app to animal abuse and if so then pets are being repeatedly abused by bringing them out to where they are subjected to sirens and other loud high frequency sounds...

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/1...d-worries.html

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.

DonH57 11-03-2013 09:48 PM

As a responsible dog owner I know where and when to take my dog in public. I also know part of the reason people fear dogs or other animals is because they don't understand them or their nature.

CFrance 11-03-2013 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Easyrider;773757]Makes perfect sense, putting and animal's rights over a human's rights. If it legal to smoke there then you should leave. If the dog is allowed there then you should leave if afraid of dogs. If the dog is where it should not be then the dog should leave. Dogs are subjected to high pitch sounds all the time throughout the day such as sirens etc. Some are acting like you would be setting off an explosion beside them, good grief....

Try and explain it to this restaurant worker...

Dog mauling on Lincoln Road worries pet owners and cafe servers - Miami-Dade - MiamiHerald.com

It’s unclear what set off the cane corso breed that ripped into waitress Amy Calandrella’s lip on Sept. 1. When the Van Dyke Cafe server bent down to give a dog a bowl of water, the dog bit her lip. She needed more than 300 stitches and underwent more than seven hours of surgery to repair the wound.[/QUOTE

A siren and any other normal sound encountered during the course of a day outside does not hurt a dog's ears. What the OP was suggesting does and amounts to animal cruelty.

Indydealmaker 11-03-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773668)
NOT....keep the cart behind the horse. IF it is somewhere they are not supposed to be and right now that is only at Cody's.

So, if I read you correctly, you are saying the only place they are not supposed to be is Cody's?

Indydealmaker 11-03-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 773743)
Maybe we should all be as passionate about protecting PEOPLE that are terrified of dogs or are allergic to them, etc. etc, etc. When we place animals over people it is definitely a sign of mental illness.

Are you sure you are a biker? Most bikers I ride with would far more prefer animals over people. Dogs are rarely rude and judgmental.


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