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GeriS 09-29-2021 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 2010299)
Those spewing that garbage about Villagers being unvaccinated are clueless

Covid Act Now

You're wasting your time trying to convince them. There eyes are not open.

cafw1 09-29-2021 06:37 AM

I've been wondering if waiters and waitresses now receive "going rate" pay of $15+ per hour. Does anybody know what a server receives? I've seen signs outside of restaurants saying Hiring--$15 plus per hour. It could be really lucrative if the base pay is $15 and they get tips on top of that----you'd think people would be rushing to get those jobs. If anybody knows let us know.

CoachKandSportsguy 09-29-2021 07:05 AM

You really think that TV is going to get high quality minimum wage employees with Disney right down the road? When Covid came through alot of older employees, ie boomers, decided that retirement was better than working, and the openings go to younger employees. . .

Lots of restaurant employees have had to go looking for other jobs during the pandemic and found them. . . My daughter is one. . . restaurant mgmt has to deal with transient employees, and local franchises will move them around to where the higher demand is. . especially with no benefits and non restaurant offers benefits

Let say that the rural areas are not the most ideal for career development. . . If you haven't figured out yet, TV has outgrown the local minimum employees, and florida in general has had a large influx of retirees. . . putting a higher demand on minimum wage employees all over the state, who aren't afraid of leaving when the mgmt sux in their opinion. . . if you don't look at nor understand demographics, you won't understand why your expectations are no longer getting met. . . but you might be affected by it without realizing.

People don't realize that that there are limits to everything, go read "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell, and you will find out that human organizations actually have a limit of size before its too hard to manage, based upon brain capacity, There are limits to the TV as physical homes might scale, but the rest of the financial and employment support may not. . .

I know that some TV wannabees are now looking elsewhere, and we are not there permanently, but will no hesitate to move if the developer over develops and the amenity quality suffers too much.

finance guy

ChicagoNative 09-29-2021 07:25 AM

“…rich, entitled, anti-vaxx villagers…”. That’s about as fertile as two feet up a bull’s behind, but I digress.

Regarding the Covid excuse, I’ve begun to wonder the same thing. While we’ve personally taken this whole thing seriously right from jump, and also realize that there were and still are some bad hiccups in the supply chain, I suspect it’s being used as a handy catch-all by all businesses.

Regarding Cody’s, we’ve dined at the LSL location many times as we love the patio atmosphere. There has been one time where we experienced a similar experience as the OP, and that was pre-Covid. Every other time we’ve gone there, both service and food have been good. We try to go during off hours, and even then they still draw decent crowds. The place is jammed during “normal” lunch and dinner times.

I would not tip 20% for the kind of service described. Nevah. Evah. Why reward that? Tipping is already out of control imo, and now there seems to be a more vocal sentiment that tipping should be 30%+ to be proper….because Covid, ad nauseum.

We’ve worked hard for what we’ve got and don’t feel the least bit guilty for being able to afford to eat out once or twice a week; nor will we be guilted into over tipping, especially for crap service.

Andyb 09-29-2021 07:33 AM

Besides the COVID excuse, it’s the fact workers can stay home and make the same amount of money or more. Government creating laziness.

Oneiric 09-29-2021 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

Wow. That was bad. What did the manager say if you spoke to him early when it just started to get bad?

KakiOmmm 09-29-2021 08:00 AM

I wonder if any of you have ever worked in food service??? It is the worst job and customers are rude all the time. You are at the mercy of the kitchen, the hostess and the customers. Good luck to all wait staff everywhere, especially now, with so many people being so rude. Also, Cody's and Burger King... what do you expect? Eat at a decent restaurant and you probably won't have to complain so much! Leave a good tip, if you feel inclined, and know that they are not working there for the fun of it and they are not getting rich.

Marine1974 09-29-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2010062)
We have now learned how to get paid not to work.

You have to wonder about people who cashed their stimulus handout and then judge others who refuse to be our slaves .
Why judge . $600 a week unemployment buys you what ?

golfing eagles 09-29-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2010444)
You have to wonder about people who cashed their stimulus handout and then judge others who refuse to be our slaves .
Why judge . $600 a week unemployment buys you what ?

About the same as working 40 hours/week at $15.00/hr.----only you don't have to work

jdulej 09-29-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2010408)
Besides the COVID excuse, it’s the fact workers can stay home and make the same amount of money or more. Government creating laziness.

News flash - the additional unemployment benefits started by the Trump admin and continued by the Biden admin ended some time ago. No one rolling in free government gifts besides the top 1%.

billethkid 09-29-2021 08:13 AM

And the merry go round continues (to go no place!).

golfing eagles 09-29-2021 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010449)
News flash - the additional unemployment benefits started by the Trump admin and continued by the Biden admin ended some time ago. No one rolling in free government gifts besides the top 1%.

Of course they are---that's right, all evil in the world emanates from the "top 1%". Yep---evil jobs, evil venture capital, evil charitable donations---all those problems. And they do it just to "screw the little guy"---right???? I've heard that crap from one side of the aisle all my life and it's still a load of BS

Wyseguy 09-29-2021 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010449)
News flash - the additional unemployment benefits started by the Trump admin and continued by the Biden admin ended some time ago. No one rolling in free government gifts besides the top 1%.

I get the anger over people making as much to stay home as they would for working. I am trying to fine an employee now for a landscape crew, offering 18-20 an hour, health (employee only) and $500.00 bonus after 60 days satisfactory work.
BUT
Many people currently not working are in this position because they were prevented from working when covid started. The two weeks to flatten the curve turned into approaching two years. Younger people saw their career paths destroyed. Many, forced to stop working, also lost their company provided health for themselves and their families. Young parents sending their kids to parochial schools could no longer afford the tuition, and then many schools closed. Most in TV were insulated from much of the pain. SS checks kept coming in. Medicare was there for you. We need to try and understand the other side as well.

jdulej 09-29-2021 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2010461)
Of course they are---that's right, all evil in the world emanates from the "top 1%". Yep---evil jobs, evil venture capital, evil charitable donations---all those problems. And they do it just to "screw the little guy"---right???? I've heard that crap from one side of the aisle all my life and it's still a load of BS

One of the great things about America is the opportunity it provides many people (not all, but that's another story) to excel and reach for their dreams, be they wealth, fame, or whatever. What gets lost somewhere along the line is the responsibility that goes with success. To me, there is an expectation that those that achieve the most should give back the most. I don't see that. What I see is "I want more, more, more"

jdulej 09-29-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyseguy (Post 2010462)
I get the anger over people making as much to stay home as they would for working. I am trying to fine an employee now for a landscape crew, offering 18-20 an hour, health (employee only) and $500.00 bonus after 60 days satisfactory work.
BUT
Many people currently not working are in this position because they were prevented from working when covid started. The two weeks to flatten the curve turned into approaching two years. Younger people saw their career paths destroyed. Many, forced to stop working, also lost their company provided health for themselves and their families. Young parents sending their kids to parochial schools could no longer afford the tuition, and then many schools closed. Most in TV were insulated from much of the pain. SS checks kept coming in. Medicare was there for you. We need to try and understand the other side as well.

Well said. It's a real problem that I don't think anyone has figured out yet. Hopefully, as we finally move past Covid things will normalize.

golfing eagles 09-29-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010472)
One of the great things about America is the opportunity it provides many people (not all, but that's another story) to excel and reach for their dreams, be they wealth, fame, or whatever. What gets lost somewhere along the line is the responsibility that goes with success. To me, there is an expectation that those that achieve the most should give back the most. I don't see that. What I see is "I want more, more, more"

From some, not all.

PurePeach 09-29-2021 08:39 AM

You need to call Cody’s and talk to the manager. If no one tells them about these things they can’t fix them.

JSR22 09-29-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2010408)
Besides the COVID excuse, it’s the fact workers can stay home and make the same amount of money or more. Government creating laziness.

Not true. The government unemployment subsidy has stopped. Unemployment $ in Fl are very low. The servers have moved on to the better restaurants for better tips. Why work at Cody's if you can work at Chop House?

Love2Swim 09-29-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010286)
They don’t want to wait on a bunch of non-vaxxed crazy people which is the reputation the villages is getting. Many of the prior wait staff have kids or live with their parents with no healthcare. Would you subject yourself to that risk?

Agree. And people don't seem to realize, that some of the people in the service industry moved on to other jobs that had better hours, and weren't so tip dependent. Lots of these people are younger, have kids, may be staying home with the kids to do home schooling. The Cares Act unemployment benefits have ended now, so saying that people are getting paid not to work, is just another baseless right wing talking point.

Queenie504 09-29-2021 09:02 AM

When the virus stops killing people

merrymini 09-29-2021 09:18 AM

Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich.
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some.
I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service.
If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere.
The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet.
Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant.
Top income people pay most of the taxes.

jammaiora 09-29-2021 09:19 AM

Why didn't you walk out after the first 30 min. experience. No tip was appropriate based on waitress attitude and lack of service. By tipping her, your reenforced and condoned her behavior. She will continue to be the same way.

nn0wheremann 09-29-2021 09:28 AM

Part of this is a generational thing. No one is at fault. It is what it is. The steaks are pre-cooked, warmed in a sous vide pot, then finished on the grill. Rare might no longer be an option if that is not programmed into the cooking instructions. Cut the tip for rude or ineffective service, or else you encourage that kind of service.

jdulej 09-29-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2010510)
Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich.
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some.
I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service.
If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere.
The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet.
Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant.
Top income people pay most of the taxes.

Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich. Compared to outside the Villages, they are
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some. True
I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service. Your choice
If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere. Thinking about it hard.
The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet. No it isn't Just for crappy jobs and it' about time
Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant. I like it
Top income people pay most of the taxes. As a % of income - no way

FromNY 09-29-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

Cody's food and service was not so great before Covid . That being said. Did you ask to speak to management. A new server may require some teaching. That only occurs when people bring situations to the attention of the manager. Leavening a generous tip does not improve service. Speaking to the server or manager may make a difference. Leave the tip in accordance to service, maybe 10%

jbartle1 09-29-2021 09:36 AM

When the misinformation stops.

CoachKandSportsguy 09-29-2021 09:41 AM

lets take a look at the jobs market,
20 Fastest Growing Jobs: 2020-2030 - The Big Picture

and maybe you might see where the intelligent, courteous, career minded young people are headed, versus a no benefit, rural job with no night life without an hour drive, which is tough to return after a few drinks. . . other than Disney, which probably pays better and has bigger parties after work, and i even bet the sex is better after work as well

OhioBuckeye 09-29-2021 09:54 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

Small businesses don’t have employees. It’s either employees not making enough money or it’s more money to stay home & collect easy unemployment money or more places are making $15. an hr. somewhere else. It’s really bad hear in Texas too. It might get worse because S.S. sounds like it wil end this week.

CTKID 09-29-2021 09:55 AM

Management is quick to offer something free off the menu if you complain instead of fixing the problem. I vote with my money and choose to spend it at other restaurants. Until enough of us stop going there the motivation is missing to fix the root cause. Money is the motivator not pride regarding good service and food at reasonable prices. We go back every once in a while to see if anything has changed.

BlackhawksFan 09-29-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

Pandemic or not, Cody's service has always been poor, no matter which location. Everything you experienced I have experienced in all three, now just two Village's locations. It's systemic, not pandemic.

Escape Artist 09-29-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 2010532)
Pandemic or not, Cody's service has always been poor, no matter which location. Everything you experienced I have experienced in all three, now just two Village's locations. It's systemic, not pandemic.

True. Some restaurants are just badly run and these shortcomings are exacerbated by events like a pandemic.

MDLNB 09-29-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010515)
Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich. Compared to outside the Villages, they are
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some. True
I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service. Your choice
If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere. Thinking about it hard.
The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet. No it isn't Just for crappy jobs and it' about time
Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant. I like it
Top income people pay most of the taxes. As a % of income - no way


50% of the population pay NO federal income taxes. Probably half the middle class are included in that number. The average income in the villages IS lower middle class.
The wealthy carry the rest of the country in UN-Constitutional income taxes. Yes, it is illegal to discriminate and the federal tax system discriminates and penalizes the achievers. I agree with that post that you HAD to respond to, that there are some "nasty" folks in The Villages and if they do not like it here they should feel free to move elsewhere. All those folks do is bring down a really nice place to live. And it was very nice until the folks that hated it up North decided to come down here and make it just like up North where they left.

MDLNB 09-29-2021 11:58 AM

If I get bad service, I do not return. If the food is not as good as I can get at home, I do not return. If the service is bad, I still give the waitress the benefit of doubt in case she is having a bad day, but I will give the minimum tip. I do not wish to encourage bad service. It the service is good, I always give above the average tip.
Since Covid, I have found that I can usually cook the same meal faster, better and cheaper. AND I give myself a great tip!

Sherry8bal 09-29-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

But you see, there's the problem. You STILL left a 20% tip so that server thinks she's doing a fantastic job and that you liked her service so why should she make any effort to do anything different? That's what a tip is for - GREAT SERVICE!! You got what you deserved.

Wyseguy 09-29-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010515)
Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich. Compared to outside the Villages, they are
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some. True
I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service. Your choice
If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere. Thinking about it hard.
The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet. No it isn't Just for crappy jobs and it' about time
Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant. I like it
Top income people pay most of the taxes. As a % of income - no way

Anyone who says "in no way do the top income earners pay more taxes", I know right away that this person really is ignorant of the facts. The top 1% pay almost 40% of the taxes. The bottom 50% pay 3.04%. People can argue that the wealthy should pay more than they currently are (top 3% pay over 50%), but anyone who says the wealthy pay less than others is not educated on the facts.

jimjamuser 09-29-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

I try my best to avoid ALL restaurants. It is just like asking to be disappointed. Americans eat out more than the French and look around at waistlines here in TV Land and there is a correlation. I have to be dragged into a restaurant or forgot to pack a lunch on a road trip to think about venturing into one.
....I have a full and busy life that I don't wish to watch zip by as I vegetated seated and waiting for food cooked by people that hate and are jealous of the customers and probably spit into half of the food when no one is looking. you know it happens! If a restaurant has a better, so-called, "atmosphere" than your home - you need to hire an interior decorator to improve your "atmosphere" and get a better stereo system and TV.
....there are better ways to get one's ego massaged than getting waited on for MONEY.
.....IMO restaurants are a "shallow Hal" approach to life.
.....Big changes are happening in REAL LIFE out there in the REAL "atmosphere"!

rmd2 09-29-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2010286)
They don’t want to wait on a bunch of non-vaxxed crazy people which is the reputation the villages is getting. Many of the prior wait staff have kids or live with their parents with no healthcare. Would you subject yourself to that risk?

The no health care is not an issue with regard to COVID vaccinations. There is no charge for those.

HORNET 09-29-2021 05:40 PM

That’s that restaurant, Other restaurants are doing much better

yankygrl 09-30-2021 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2009998)
Decided to go out to eat this evening, and went to Cody's Roadhouse at Lake Sumter.

Got seated, and waited and waited and waited for our server to come and even ask us for drink order. I would say it was at least 15 minutes, but hey, everyone is short staffed...so we just enjoyed waiting. Came and took our drink order, wanted a bottle of wine and 2 waters. Another 15 minutes LITERALLY before the water was served. Oh, no wine, what else do you want (claims they only had ONE of the bottle selections listed....ok, no problem, hubby has a beer and I stick with my water). Order was taken at that time. Hubby asked for his steak cooked rare.....she responds cant promise that buy will request.) Now, at what point does the customer not have the right to request the temp they want their steak cooked?? I ordered chicken wings. Literally, another 20 minutes passed and when she waltzes by to serve the people that have come in way after us, I ask about the beer. "Oh, I put the order in, I have to wait for them to serve it" was her response. No apology, no let me check on it...basically, "not my fault". Beer finally arrives about 10 minutes later....still no food. We actually watched people come in, get seated, get served and enjoying their meal being waited on by other servers as we sat and waited. Never offered to refill water, just kept asking "everything alright here" every time she passed by. Finally, food arrives. Hubby orders another beer since he has been drinking the other one during the extended wait....never comes. Bottom line, I have been the person preaching patience as we deal with these staff shortages...but it was apparent this particular server was NO hurry, not my fault, get there when I get there mode.

I actually was so unhappy I seriously considered leaving no tip. I could not bring myself to do it and tipped the 20% minimum we always leave (And for exceptional service we have left as much as 100% of the bill....trust me, CHASE credit card sends me constant email notifications, "did you intend to leave this percentage as tip?"), but gotta wonder....think we will be eating at home a lot more this winter as the snowbirds return.

At what point does the "short staffed" issue start to allow incompetence to rule the day?? There HAS to be a limit, where do you draw the line???

Sorry to say, this has really turned us off to Cody's. The entire experience was actually that sad.

So you add to the issue by tipping the usual 20% AND not asking to speak to a manager to report the bad service...you deserve exactly what you got.

Aloha1 10-04-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2010526)
It might get worse because S.S. sounds like it will end this week.

Oh, please. Do not believe the political lies that you won't get your social security check unless the debt ceiling is raised. the 14th Amendment MANDATES that those checks go out and the debt ceiling has nothing to do with it. Neither Congress nor the President can stop that despite what you hear them say.


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