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I've been wondering if waiters and waitresses now receive "going rate" pay of $15+ per hour. Does anybody know what a server receives? I've seen signs outside of restaurants saying Hiring--$15 plus per hour. It could be really lucrative if the base pay is $15 and they get tips on top of that----you'd think people would be rushing to get those jobs. If anybody knows let us know.
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You really think that TV is going to get high quality minimum wage employees with Disney right down the road? When Covid came through alot of older employees, ie boomers, decided that retirement was better than working, and the openings go to younger employees. . .
Lots of restaurant employees have had to go looking for other jobs during the pandemic and found them. . . My daughter is one. . . restaurant mgmt has to deal with transient employees, and local franchises will move them around to where the higher demand is. . especially with no benefits and non restaurant offers benefits Let say that the rural areas are not the most ideal for career development. . . If you haven't figured out yet, TV has outgrown the local minimum employees, and florida in general has had a large influx of retirees. . . putting a higher demand on minimum wage employees all over the state, who aren't afraid of leaving when the mgmt sux in their opinion. . . if you don't look at nor understand demographics, you won't understand why your expectations are no longer getting met. . . but you might be affected by it without realizing. People don't realize that that there are limits to everything, go read "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell, and you will find out that human organizations actually have a limit of size before its too hard to manage, based upon brain capacity, There are limits to the TV as physical homes might scale, but the rest of the financial and employment support may not. . . I know that some TV wannabees are now looking elsewhere, and we are not there permanently, but will no hesitate to move if the developer over develops and the amenity quality suffers too much. finance guy |
“…rich, entitled, anti-vaxx villagers…”. That’s about as fertile as two feet up a bull’s behind, but I digress.
Regarding the Covid excuse, I’ve begun to wonder the same thing. While we’ve personally taken this whole thing seriously right from jump, and also realize that there were and still are some bad hiccups in the supply chain, I suspect it’s being used as a handy catch-all by all businesses. Regarding Cody’s, we’ve dined at the LSL location many times as we love the patio atmosphere. There has been one time where we experienced a similar experience as the OP, and that was pre-Covid. Every other time we’ve gone there, both service and food have been good. We try to go during off hours, and even then they still draw decent crowds. The place is jammed during “normal” lunch and dinner times. I would not tip 20% for the kind of service described. Nevah. Evah. Why reward that? Tipping is already out of control imo, and now there seems to be a more vocal sentiment that tipping should be 30%+ to be proper….because Covid, ad nauseum. We’ve worked hard for what we’ve got and don’t feel the least bit guilty for being able to afford to eat out once or twice a week; nor will we be guilted into over tipping, especially for crap service. |
Besides the COVID excuse, it’s the fact workers can stay home and make the same amount of money or more. Government creating laziness.
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I wonder if any of you have ever worked in food service??? It is the worst job and customers are rude all the time. You are at the mercy of the kitchen, the hostess and the customers. Good luck to all wait staff everywhere, especially now, with so many people being so rude. Also, Cody's and Burger King... what do you expect? Eat at a decent restaurant and you probably won't have to complain so much! Leave a good tip, if you feel inclined, and know that they are not working there for the fun of it and they are not getting rich.
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And the merry go round continues (to go no place!).
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BUT Many people currently not working are in this position because they were prevented from working when covid started. The two weeks to flatten the curve turned into approaching two years. Younger people saw their career paths destroyed. Many, forced to stop working, also lost their company provided health for themselves and their families. Young parents sending their kids to parochial schools could no longer afford the tuition, and then many schools closed. Most in TV were insulated from much of the pain. SS checks kept coming in. Medicare was there for you. We need to try and understand the other side as well. |
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You need to call Cody’s and talk to the manager. If no one tells them about these things they can’t fix them.
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When the virus stops killing people
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Not everyone who lives in the Villages is rich.
Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some. I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service. If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere. The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet. Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant. Top income people pay most of the taxes. |
Why didn't you walk out after the first 30 min. experience. No tip was appropriate based on waitress attitude and lack of service. By tipping her, your reenforced and condoned her behavior. She will continue to be the same way.
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Part of this is a generational thing. No one is at fault. It is what it is. The steaks are pre-cooked, warmed in a sous vide pot, then finished on the grill. Rare might no longer be an option if that is not programmed into the cooking instructions. Cut the tip for rude or ineffective service, or else you encourage that kind of service.
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Not everyone eating out is nasty but there are always some. True I would never leave a 20 percent tip for bad service. Your choice If you do not like the Villages or the people who live here you are free to go elsewhere. Thinking about it hard. The work ethic is dead but respond when you hit them in the wallet. No it isn't Just for crappy jobs and it' about time Tried Cody’s once when I got here seven years and never went back, terrible restaurant. I like it Top income people pay most of the taxes. As a % of income - no way |
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When the misinformation stops.
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lets take a look at the jobs market,
20 Fastest Growing Jobs: 2020-2030 - The Big Picture and maybe you might see where the intelligent, courteous, career minded young people are headed, versus a no benefit, rural job with no night life without an hour drive, which is tough to return after a few drinks. . . other than Disney, which probably pays better and has bigger parties after work, and i even bet the sex is better after work as well |
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Management is quick to offer something free off the menu if you complain instead of fixing the problem. I vote with my money and choose to spend it at other restaurants. Until enough of us stop going there the motivation is missing to fix the root cause. Money is the motivator not pride regarding good service and food at reasonable prices. We go back every once in a while to see if anything has changed.
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50% of the population pay NO federal income taxes. Probably half the middle class are included in that number. The average income in the villages IS lower middle class. The wealthy carry the rest of the country in UN-Constitutional income taxes. Yes, it is illegal to discriminate and the federal tax system discriminates and penalizes the achievers. I agree with that post that you HAD to respond to, that there are some "nasty" folks in The Villages and if they do not like it here they should feel free to move elsewhere. All those folks do is bring down a really nice place to live. And it was very nice until the folks that hated it up North decided to come down here and make it just like up North where they left. |
If I get bad service, I do not return. If the food is not as good as I can get at home, I do not return. If the service is bad, I still give the waitress the benefit of doubt in case she is having a bad day, but I will give the minimum tip. I do not wish to encourage bad service. It the service is good, I always give above the average tip.
Since Covid, I have found that I can usually cook the same meal faster, better and cheaper. AND I give myself a great tip! |
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....I have a full and busy life that I don't wish to watch zip by as I vegetated seated and waiting for food cooked by people that hate and are jealous of the customers and probably spit into half of the food when no one is looking. you know it happens! If a restaurant has a better, so-called, "atmosphere" than your home - you need to hire an interior decorator to improve your "atmosphere" and get a better stereo system and TV. ....there are better ways to get one's ego massaged than getting waited on for MONEY. .....IMO restaurants are a "shallow Hal" approach to life. .....Big changes are happening in REAL LIFE out there in the REAL "atmosphere"! |
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That’s that restaurant, Other restaurants are doing much better
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