Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1554684)

Rap/hip hop has been around since at least the 1920’s. It was frequently used to give news that affected black communities but would not be covered by local media.

Some is made up on the spot, especially if a battle. Some is carefully crafted. If you can’t understand the words, find and read the lyrics. Not all is obscene, sexist and violent. Some speak to loving their family, their children, how they’ve changed, social issues, past history. Some advocate violence and spew nothing but obscenities. Enimem started with rap of childhood abuse and dreams of revenge to his mother. Now, his rap waxes poetic about his daughter and his hopes and dreams for her. 50 Cent started as a thug, tats and bullet holes. Today, he is a successful businessman, has had tats removed, raps about non-violent ways to be a man. The 20 YO murdered in Miami was a complete and total punk. Yet, his rap was a message of hope that he was changing, that he would grow into a man proud of his actions.

It may not be music to your ears, but it is to many. Elvis was not music to your parents’ ears. Swing was once considered obscene. The waltz was risqué. And so on and so forth. Like it or not, rap is here to stay and, like most art forms, evolves as time goes on.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1554684)

Rap/hip hop has been around since at least the 1920’s. It was frequently used to give news that affected black communities but would not be covered by local media.

Some is made up on the spot, especially if a battle. Some is carefully crafted. If you can’t understand the words, find and read the lyrics. Not all is obscene, sexist and violent. Some speak to loving their family, their children, how they’ve changed, social issues, past history. Some advocate violence and spew nothing but obscenities. Enimem started with rap of childhood abuse and dreams of revenge to his mother. Now, his rap waxes poetic about his daughter and his hopes and dreams for her. 50 Cent started as a thug, tats and bullet holes. Today, he is a successful businessman, has had tats removed, raps about non-violent ways to be a man. The 20 YO murdered in Miami was a complete and total punk. Yet, his rap was a message of hope that he was changing, that he would grow into a man proud of his actions.

It may not be music to your ears, but it is to many. Elvis was not music to your parents’ ears. Swing was once considered obscene. The waltz was risqué. And so on and so forth. Like it or not, rap is here to stay and, like most art forms, evolves as time goes on.

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1554733)

Many things said here remind me of what was said about The Beatles, Elvis, and others. "That's not music". "They're all on drugs". "They have dirty, greasy long hair". "Kids should not be allowed to listen to that stuff". "The words are obscene" (Remember Louis, Louis?). One generation need not enjoy or understand the music of the next generation. It has always, It will always be.

Originally Posted by SFSkol (Post 1554622)

Rap has many poetry elements,
Most rappers cannot sing, like elephants.
Folk songwriters with attitudes,
Who think their words are platitudes.
Some are written, others not.
Often listeners say, "What?"
Are they songs without a beat?
Because, wouldn't that be neat?
Most rhyming skills are capable,
But never one to be memorable.

"Peace and Love, Man," frowning with arms crossed.

Originally Posted by BK001 (Post 1554789)

Check out this site -- if you don't consider it hysterical, you lost a few years somewhere:


You've been Rick-Rolled - YouTube


LOL -- Just yesterday had to explain this to my sister.

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1554896)

Excellent!

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Originally Posted by BK001 (Post 1554789)

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1554913)

Can't understand the words? Also true of a great many songs from the 50's and 60's. It doesn't have a melody so it's not music. Then toss away Gene Krupa. As a bastion of my community I find it offense. That is exactly what art often should do. It should annoy you, challenge your assumptions, speak truth to power, show your least attractive attributes, A glamour shot is not art. Art can celebrate beauty but in its most powerful form it does not. Think Guernica.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1554950)

I have read some VERY interesting comments on this thread but still think I like Night on Bald Mountain better than;


I see you standin' there and know you cool.

You ain't no rapper and you ain't no fool.

You talkin sweet baby and I hear you mama

You ringin' my chimes and makin me warmah





Howm I doin????

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1554954)

Well then I would say you do know what rap is.


I like Night on Bald Mountain. I dislike jazz. I like oldies rock and up to the '90s. I love classical music. I don't like country.


I don't care if I don't know what they are. To each his own.


Here's Mozart done on a banjo. Watch the musician's face. How can you not love how he's into his music. That can be true with any artist in any form of music.
Rondo Alla Turca - Fast Banjo! - Jamie Dupuis - YouTube