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fdpaq0580 09-09-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2134643)
Appropriate punishment for these @rseh0l3$: Handcuff both their legs to the wheelchair and let them lead the life of those that they fraudulently imitated to be first in line for say 3 months. Doubt anyone would ever try it again.

I like the idea.

fdpaq0580 09-09-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2134650)
Bet over 90% of service dogs are fake. Brother had a real service dog. Dog had to have certain temprament, longevity and 18 months of training. Most so called service dogs appear to be for social purposes.

Service dogs, not "emotional support" dogs, should have license on their collar that is numbered and registered by the state. Anyone caught faking it does hard time and fines. Any company caught selling fake licenses is fined big and shut down with ceos getting prison.

ThirdOfFive 09-09-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2134691)
Service dogs, not "emotional support" dogs, should have license on their collar that is numbered and registered by the state. Anyone caught faking it does hard time and fines. Any company caught selling fake licenses is fined big and shut down with ceos getting prison.

For myself, I would be in favor of drawing and quartering, but...

retiredguy123 09-09-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2134691)
Service dogs, not "emotional support" dogs, should have license on their collar that is numbered and registered by the state. Anyone caught faking it does hard time and fines. Any company caught selling fake licenses is fined big and shut down with ceos getting prison.

And a stern talking to.

The problem is that they already do that with handicapped parking permits, but they allow any doctor to issue a permit. In my opinion, doctors do not do a good job of screening out those who don't need a permit.

fdpaq0580 09-09-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2134704)
For myself, I would be in favor of drawing and quartering, but...

I agree with you, but it is just so messy. Eww😠

golfing eagles 09-09-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2134709)
And a stern talking to.

The problem is that they already do that with handicapped parking permits, but they allow any doctor to issue a permit. In my opinion, doctors do not do a good job of screening out those who don't need a permit.

Doctor's role is to diagnose and treat, as well as prevent illness. It is NOT to "issue permits"---put some petty bureaucrat in charge of that.

JMintzer 09-09-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2134758)
Doctor's role is to diagnose and treat, as well as prevent illness. It is NOT to "issue permits"---put some petty bureaucrat in charge of that.

Funny, I've never ""issued a permit"...

I've filled out permit requests with the appropriate diagnosis for the patient which may or may not be approved by the local MVA...

retiredguy123 09-09-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2134764)
Funny, I've never ""issued a permit"...

I've filled out permit requests with the appropriate diagnosis for the patient which may or may not be approved by the local MVA...

"May or may not be approved?" If you are referring to a handicapped parking permit, the permit is issued by the state. But, they depend entirely on a doctor signing the application form. I don't think that any applications, signed by a doctor, are ever denied.

Michael G. 09-09-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2134772)
If you are referring to a handicapped parking permit, the permit is issued by the state.

And have you heard of anyone getting fined for parking in a handicap parking space??

retiredguy123 09-09-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2134778)
And have you heard of anyone getting fined for parking in a handicap parking space??

I think they will ticket and fine you if you don't have a permit. But, the problem is that there is no enforcement for someone who has a permit, but doesn't need one. They assume that, if a doctor signed the application, that the person needs to park in a handicapped space. With some exceptions, most people who have a medical condition are encouraged to walk more and not to park in a handicapped space. In those cases, why don't doctors refuse to sign the application?

golfing eagles 09-09-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2134784)
I think they will ticket and fine you if you don't have a permit. But, the problem is that there is no enforcement for someone who has a permit, but doesn't need one. They assume that, if a doctor signed the application, that the person needs to park in a handicapped space. With some exceptions, most people who have a medical condition are encouraged to walk more and not to park in a handicapped space. In those cases, why don't doctors refuse to sign the application?

Because it takes 10 seconds to sign it and 15 minutes to argue with a patient that you won't. Which is why you cannot put doctors in charge of this process. It doesn't take a medical education to figure out who qualifies for a handicap permit and who doesn't.

And yes, I have in the past refused to sign them, but rest assured, it never worked out well.

Tom1916 09-09-2022 05:16 PM

So much for people now days. It's only going to get worse.
 
So much for people now days. It's only going to get worse.
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2134409)
I have a daughter-in -law in a wheelchair.

Her and my son have been vacationing for many years between Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

They pack at least 3-4 large suitcases and until the last couple years, they had plenty of friendly help at the airport.

Now the last couple times they traveled there's no help with my daughter-in-law
and their luggage anywhere.

My son asks what was going on, and they said besides the lack of help, they also said people are buying wheelchairs just to get to the front on the TSA line.

Now how sick is that?

So much for the disability act.


coralway 09-09-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2134409)
I have a daughter-in -law in a wheelchair.

Her and my son have been vacationing for many years between Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

They pack at least 3-4 large suitcases and until the last couple years, they had plenty of friendly help at the airport.

Now the last couple times they traveled there's no help with my daughter-in-law
and their luggage anywhere.

My son asks what was going on, and they said besides the lack of help, they also said people are buying wheelchairs just to get to the front on the TSA line.

Now how sick is that?

So much for the disability act.





Dunno - does Mexico and/or the DR have a disability act?

Stu from NYC 09-09-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2134778)
And have you heard of anyone getting fined for parking in a handicap parking space??


Yes I have, an easy ticket for a parking enforcement operator who can argue they are not guilty?

manaboutown 09-09-2022 06:48 PM

A former girlfriend in CA had some very serious issues over ten years ago. She is ok today. Back then her physician issued her a "permanent" handicapped parking permit which she still uses to get up close parking to this day.


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