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Now I must ask for a definitive answer to: "Can law enforcement issue citations on multi modal paths which are considered private property?" Are citations given only on shared streets such as Morse north of 466? |
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I would say that you cannot be ticketed on a cart path just as you can't be ticketed on the golf course for being a bad "driver" get it....driver...golf course..ha,ha. Sorry I just woke up and my sense of humor hasn't yet! You can only be ticketed on public roads. |
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Has anyone tried to stop a golf cart doing 20 MPH, good luck, I don't want to be around. :22yikes:
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Now for that definitive answer:
You can only be ticketed by the police in your golf golf cart if you are on a public street. The multi-modal trails are NOT public streets. On public streets, the speed limit for non-street legal carts is 20 mph. |
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If a trap is on a path and your going over 20 mph u may not get a speeding ticket but u can get an unregistered motor vehicle ticket. Whose going to argue with the officer and tell him he can't I've been passed on paths and my cart is legal 20MPH.
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From the VCCDD Minutes:
Valerie Fuchs, District Counsel, advised the Board that Florida Statute Chapter 190 does not provide the District with law enforcement authority. Ms. Fuchs stated jurisdiction for law enforcement of the streets, highways and roads is vested within the counties or cities in which the roads lie, which for District 3 is held by the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office (SCSO). In response to the question raised whether the SCSO could assist the District by enforcing speeding violations that occur on the multimodal paths along Buena Vista Boulevard, Ms. Fuchs advised, because the multi-modal paths do not meet the definition under Florida Statute Chapter 316 as a road, street or highway, the SCSO has no jurisdiction to enforce violations on the multi-modal paths that exist on District property. Valerie Fuchs further stated the District cannot enter into an Interlocal Agreement with the SCSO to provide for the law enforcement of those multi-modal paths along Buena Vista Boulevard because the District does not have law enforcement ability to grant to the SCSO. Ms. Fuchs advised the District does have the authority to place control mechanisms such as speed bumps or humps along the multi-modal paths to control speed if it so chose to do so. |
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Work with the Sheriff to measure the cart speed on the path and wait for the cart to cross a county road. If I'm not mistaken the offense would still be driving an illegal cart on a county road. The district could just ban the driver or the cart from private property and ask the sheriff to assist with a trespass order. Publish the names and pictures in the Sun of the speeders. Ban speeders from the golf reservation system. If speed bumps are installed the only winners will be the cart towing and repair services. |
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If they have no law enforcement juristiction why does the sherrifs golf cart ride them and why do they get called for an accident ?
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Where is this sheriffs golf cart riding the multi-model path? |
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I've never seen a police vehicle of any kind patrolling the multi modal paths. Has anyone ? :shrug:
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Sheriff Golf Cart
Has been seen on Morse Blvd GC trail also by Sea Breeze and coming south on Buenna Vista fron LSL.
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Maybe I'm not looking at all of this right, don't mean to offend anyone, but I do have opinions like everyone else on here. Here goes...
It seems to me that the speeding issue comes down to what's happening in many areas of society today and it's the "me, me, me" attitude. Whatever I want to do no matter if there may be consequences to others. It's the same with the rude parking issues in the squares. Who cares if you get blocked in...you're where I want to park. My cart's nicer than yours so I deserve the whole space. And on and on it goes. Are there always bad consequences? Of course not, but sometimes they are bad. This place is supposed to be for everyone's enjoyment...not just a select few. It seems to be getting more and more the latter, unfortunately. I thought most of us came here to enjoy life and get away from the proverbial "rat race", not bring it along. As far as getting passed by faster carts....happens all the time to us. I don't really care because I don't have to be anywhere first. Go for it. I get there when I get there at my little 19.6. If the speed is set to 25, then you will have those that have to go 30. Set it to 30 and they will have to go 35. The same thing happens on the highways and roads all the time. Speed limit is 35 - go 45+; speed limit 70 - go 80+; speed limit 85 - go 100, etc. Why? BTW, if you do have an accident with your golf cart on the paths, are you saying you don't think SCSO should be called since they don't have any jurisdiction on the paths anyway? How would that affect an insurance claim? |
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You crack me up! Is that like beer on the golf course? Don't "drink and drive" ROTFL |
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I can hardly drive when I don't drink imagine if I did drink and drive. I have a tee time later today and was thinking about using a designated driver! I hope people know what we're talking about otherwise I'm in trouble! :icon_wink: |
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You're right. People are people and this place is a mix of all types. People pass me and I pass people sometimes too. (my cart isn't modified) I'll only pass someone if it's safe and they are going less than say 15-16mph mostly just because it's easier to drive with the pedal to the metal. Yesterday I had an exception. I forgot about a 9:12 tee time and was very, very late. I passed someone who was going about 15mph on the trail and yelled as I passed "Sorry, I'm in a hurry". I got a dirty look and deserved it but as they say "poop happens". So no matter how nice of a guy I think I am while driving my cart I screwed up yesterday. The funny thing was that when I arrived at the clubhouse I was actually a day early cause my tee time was for today! I'll make up for it today by leaving early and letting someone pass me to balance out the world again.:police: |
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You said it well.....
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The speed limit is 20 MPG, go 20 MPH. |
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I've done it and everyone does it, but I have been told that it is illegal to cross the solid white line on the streets in order to pass someone.
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I have seen a Sumter County deputy in a cart on the MM near Arnold Palmer. About a year ago. He was heading south.
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The Fuzz
....Have seen SUMTER Sheriff Cart with RAY-GUN in "Caroline" Postal Station.......then....their cohorts in cars waiting in "Coconut Cove" Rec Center driveway
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On the way to the course this AM I came upon a golf cart going 11-12 MPH, I passed at 16-17 mph and saw the look on the driver's face that read "this guy is passing me overe 30 mph:D
On the way back home I came upon two more carts going 11-12mph. One driver just pulled over and let me go by at 16-17mph. However when I got the the next cart she just went truckin along until I found a clear flat and straight portion of the cart path to pass again 16-17 mph. I could not see one car in my travels this AM that exceeded 19 mph |
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