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Whitley 12-27-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GoneFishing (Post 2285788)
Sounds like a great way to bring in the New Year!!

Much better than shooting a gun in the air.

DavidK 12-27-2023 09:49 AM

Are you sure the City of Wildwood is footing the entire bill for the fireworks? Many cities have sponsors that pay for the advertising. In Cincinnati, along the Ohio riverbank, the radio station WEBN and Toyota sponsor the fireworks. The city coveres traffic control and crowd cleanup.

kkingston57 12-27-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute!

Per latest census about 17K people in Wildwood = =/- $8.00 a person. Bet that all of the money is not from taxpayers.

paulajr 12-27-2023 10:15 AM

Hahaha
 
Not getting the responses you hoped for, are you?
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute!


cjrjck 12-27-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TeresaE (Post 2285781)
We Villagers need to remember that the town of Wildwood existed long before we arrived. The people who have called Wildwood their home are as entitled to their celebrations and traditions as we are entitled to ours. These people have seen a big change in their way of life because of us. I suggest that instead of complaining we celebrate with them as we are so fortunate to live here. Happy New Year!

I agree with your sentiments. But, I will remind you that TV did not encroach upon Wildwood unexpectedly. In fact, Wildwood intentionally annexed 5000 acres south of 44 around 2005 in hopes that one day TV would expand there, which they eventually did. It is a mutual relationship. Any Wildwood resident, even those living in TV, should have the right to voice their opinion on how their tax dollars are being spent.

Boston1945 12-27-2023 10:37 AM

So great that Wildwood is doing this for New Year's. That is what small-town America is all about.
Check out the link to see how Hawaii brings in the New Year. The best part is that all fireworks are illegal in the state
https://youtu.be/x34YIlD9gFQ

NJRICHARD 12-27-2023 10:39 AM

A FIREWORK WORKS GROUCH lives amongst us! Let's eliminate ALL the flowers, trees and while we are at it the grass!! These growing things require tax money to maintain! While we are at it close the art museums, stop all concerts, parades and CLOSE anything that makes us civil as humans. 'Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain and most fools do' (Ben franklin)

Indydealmaker 12-27-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute!

Why the negativity?

NavyVet 12-27-2023 12:17 PM

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LianneMigiano 12-27-2023 12:33 PM

What about all of the frightened pets?
 
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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2285643)
I think it is great they are offering entertainment on the holidays.

I've seen wonderful drone displays on the computer that would not disturb so many of our beloved animals as fireworks do on New Years and the 4th of JUL. It's a better alternative...

Villagesgal 12-27-2023 02:25 PM

People have complained for over 20 years that no towns near the Villages have fireworks on the 4th, now you are complaining that Wildwood is having a fireworks show. Can't win for losing. I for one am thrilled that they are doing this for their citizens. Very patriotic. I'll be there watching and cheering.

Normal 12-27-2023 03:31 PM

Not Really
 
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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2285870)
because thats who he is ,mr negative

Your interpretation isn’t on mark, but thank you. The broader picture is the informative mode for next year’s elections. Most incorporated Villagers of Wildwood need to stay informed of how there 100 dollar plus a month additional tax paid to Wildwood is spent.

I like fireworks, although I confess the 4th was really most applicable for my upbringing. Have you seen Wildwood? The money should be spent on the people, not placed up in smoke. I get though how some want fireworks more than once a year. I guess I care more about those less fortunate at a fault.

Love the Villages and never plan on moving. I hope you do to!

Normal 12-27-2023 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NJRICHARD (Post 2285854)
A FIREWORK WORKS GROUCH lives amongst us! Let's eliminate ALL the flowers, trees and while we are at it the grass!! These growing things require tax money to maintain! While we are at it close the art museums, stop all concerts, parades and CLOSE anything that makes us civil as humans. 'Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain and most fools do' (Ben franklin)

Love the flower change outs and tree, it’s part of why I like paying the amenities. We live in such a beautiful place. Paying 1500 a year to Wildwood so money can be misspent is another issue. One I hope will soon be resolved when all Villagers run Wildwood.

Ignatz 12-27-2023 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by matandch (Post 2285746)
Try putting your pet in a room with the radio or TV turned up to drown out the sound of the fireworks. Also there’s a comforting type of jacket that you can buy for your pet to help soothe your pet and keep him calm during the fireworks. Finally you can call your vet to prescribe a tranquilizer to calm and sedate your pet. If you think about it it’s only about an hour a year between the 4th of July and NYE.

Nice to think that it's that minimal of a problem.

However, the people that put on their own private shows with professional grade fireworks are random, so there are loud booms going off at various times of the evening and night on the holiday as well as the days before and after.

I have no problem dealing with my dogs during the time of the advertised show. It's the random detonations by these private folks that really screw things up for us.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-27-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285909)
Your interpretation isn’t on mark, but thank you. The broader picture is the informative mode for next year’s elections. Most incorporated Villagers of Wildwood need to stay informed of how there 100 dollar plus a month additional tax paid to Wildwood is spent.

I like fireworks, although I confess the 4th was really most applicable for my upbringing. Have you seen Wildwood? The money should be spent on the people, not placed up in smoke. I get though how some want fireworks more than once a year. I guess I care more about those less fortunate at a fault.

Love the Villages and never plan on moving. I hope you do to!

yes can’t wait for a bunch of old people controlling schools ,parks ,recreation and entertainment of young families , single people , minorities and lower income groups , I mean you have people here that don’t want flowers and complain about paying taxes for schools and I doubt reading your post you care at all about those less fortunate , more like the norm for many here where the mantra is I’ve got mine and I don’t care about anyone else

Bogie Shooter 12-27-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285909)
Your interpretation isn’t on mark, but thank you. The broader picture is the informative mode for next year’s elections. Most incorporated Villagers of Wildwood need to stay informed of how there 100 dollar plus a month additional tax paid to Wildwood is spent.

I like fireworks, although I confess the 4th was really most applicable for my upbringing. Have you seen Wildwood? The money should be spent on the people, not placed up in smoke. I get though how some want fireworks more than once a year. I guess I care more about those less fortunate at a fault.

Love the Villages and never plan on moving. I hope you do to!

What are you implying ? Yes, I’ve seen Wildwood, there are many well kept residential areas. Some, other’s not as well maintained. But that is everywhere……in every city.

Please share what your platform will be when you run for council.

Normal 12-27-2023 05:36 PM

Lol
 
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2285922)
What are you implying ? Yes, I’ve seen Wildwood, there are many well kept residential areas. Some, other’s not as well maintained. But that is everywhere……in every city.

Please share what your platform will be when you run for council.

I would never run. I guess I would like to vote for someone who was pro dissolution of Wildwood citizenship, or at least cut city taxes in half? Honestly, we get so little for the so much that we contribute. I do realize so much of the county doesn’t pay the additional 1500 a year for fireworks and parking garages. Obviously Villages candidates would be a shoe in in most cases to run the town.

JRcorvette 12-27-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute!

So what…. Wildwood is making tons of money and they want to give back to the people. :coolsmiley:

MrChip72 12-27-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute!

It's happening this Friday Dec 29th between 6-9pm.

It's also much more than just shooting off fireworks, it's an event:

"In addition to a professional fireworks display, the New Year’s party will feature music by Groove Slayers, a high-energy band from Orlando featuring horns, multiple vocalists and harmonies, and a repertoire ranging from soul to pop.

The event also will include a variety of food trucks, vendors, and family-friendly games. For those of legal age with proper identification, adult beverages will be available for purchase."


I'm sure between what the vendors, and food trucks are paying to be there and the profits on the adult beverages that Wildwood will make out just fine in covering most of the costs.

It's Hot There 12-27-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2285814)
Not for long...currently about 25% of the homes in The Villages are in Wildwood, about half of the number of homes in unincorporated Sumter County. With all the new villages announced in the south that are in Wildwood, that gap is going to close quickly!

Nothing to do with the topic, but nice opinion.

Bilyclub 12-27-2023 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2285814)
Not for long...currently about 25% of the homes in The Villages are in Wildwood, about half of the number of homes in unincorporated Sumter County. With all the new villages announced in the south that are in Wildwood, that gap is going to close quickly!

They are cramming a lot of Villas down there, but seriously you need some documentation to be throwing the 25% out there.

shaw8700@outlook.com 12-27-2023 09:24 PM

Maybe the cost of the fireworks were subsidized by local businesses?

MrChip72 12-27-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285925)
I would never run. I guess I would like to vote for someone who was pro dissolution of Wildwood citizenship, or at least cut city taxes in half? Honestly, we get so little for the so much that we contribute. I do realize so much of the county doesn’t pay the additional 1500 a year for fireworks and parking garages. Obviously Villages candidates would be a shoe in in most cases to run the town.

To be honest, most of Wildwood looks like a place that would benefit from the extra money from the Villagers that are part of Wildwood. It's certainly not going to improve if they have less money. The city has lots of potential. I don't really care that part of my taxes goes to Wildwood. It's like a rounding error compared to my overall expenses.

My part of the Villages is in Wildwood and I would be very unlikely to vote for a Villages candidate over a non-Villages one. I don't think Wildwood needs retiree's whose main agenda is to not spend money telling them how to run things. They would absolutely NOT be a shoe in for Villages candidates to run the city.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-27-2023 10:35 PM

I used to enjoy fireworks displays, until one year a friend invited me to her friend's neighborhood, and they were shooting a huge multi-hundred-dollar kit in the middle of the residential street. The smoke, the sound of M-80's, the sparks flying into the trees - it was just all WAY too much for me and I ran away, horrified. I've hated them ever since.

My next door neighbor used to set them off in his back yard from June 1 til the end of July, almost every night. Sometimes the rockets would explode right above my maple tree and the sparks falling onto the branches had me panicking. They thought it was rather entertaining that they were creating explosions in a wooded neighborhood. I thought it was horrible, insensitive, nasty, and uncivilized. It was also illegal in my state, but half the cops in the town were shooting their own kits off in their own yards so there was really no one to report it to.

If that maple tree didn't merely have sparks on the branches, but any of those sparks had turned into an actual fire, it could've been a catastrophe.

The sound still sets me on edge, the closer it is to the house the more nervewracking it is. I am not fond of the sound of guns, or bombs, or explosions. Humbug, sure. I'll own that. I don't apologize for it.

justjim 12-27-2023 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2285660)
Most normal little towns and cities have these displays.


Didn’t see the cost explained in the news article?

The little town I came from
still puts on a very nice professional fireworks show for 30,000.

xcaligirl 12-28-2023 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2285736)
How nice for all you people who enjoy the sound of war, me... I'll be thinking of the misery it's causing most of the terrified animals and veterans.... who will spend 20 minutes suffering. I'll ache for the pets, who won't survive. Have fun!

At this end of the Villages (far north), we get people shooting off guns and what definitely sounds like illegal fireworks for HOURS 2 days prior to NYE and a couple days after. Our dog is terrified all night for multiple nights. 1 night for 20 min would be welcomed (almost). Just waiting for a major fire during this time of the year and 4th of July holiday.

It's Hot There 12-28-2023 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 2285998)
At this end of the Villages (far north), we get people shooting off guns and what definitely sounds like illegal fireworks for HOURS 2 days prior to NYE and a couple days after. Our dog is terrified all night for multiple nights. 1 night for 20 min would be welcomed (almost). Just waiting for a major fire during this time of the year and 4th of July holiday.

& Brownwood and South......it's duck hunting season.
Can hear gun fire every morning.

Welcome to America.

Bay Kid 12-28-2023 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2285979)
I used to enjoy fireworks displays, until one year a friend invited me to her friend's neighborhood, and they were shooting a huge multi-hundred-dollar kit in the middle of the residential street. The smoke, the sound of M-80's, the sparks flying into the trees - it was just all WAY too much for me and I ran away, horrified. I've hated them ever since.

My next door neighbor used to set them off in his back yard from June 1 til the end of July, almost every night. Sometimes the rockets would explode right above my maple tree and the sparks falling onto the branches had me panicking. They thought it was rather entertaining that they were creating explosions in a wooded neighborhood. I thought it was horrible, insensitive, nasty, and uncivilized. It was also illegal in my state, but half the cops in the town were shooting their own kits off in their own yards so there was really no one to report it to.

If that maple tree didn't merely have sparks on the branches, but any of those sparks had turned into an actual fire, it could've been a catastrophe.

The sound still sets me on edge, the closer it is to the house the more nervewracking it is. I am not fond of the sound of guns, or bombs, or explosions. Humbug, sure. I'll own that. I don't apologize for it.

As a young person fireworks were only on the 4th of July. Now they go off for most any excuse. For this reason I have lost interest, except on the 4th of July.

Whitley 12-28-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2285920)
yes can’t wait for a bunch of old people controlling schools ,parks ,recreation and entertainment of young families , single people , minorities and lower income groups , I mean you have people here that don’t want flowers and complain about paying taxes for schools and I doubt reading your post you care at all about those less fortunate , more like the norm for many here where the mantra is I’ve got mine and I don’t care about anyone else

Flowers, talk about blowing money (not literally). We pay for them to pull out perfectly healthy, beautiful flowers that have just started to mature and fill in, to be replaced with new flowers. And the pollen that is released doing this. One persons enjoyment is another persons sinus headache. I guess the point should be that if you have an issue, it is up to you to deal with it. I'm a person "at risk" regarding health. I will avoid crowded spaces, I will wash my hands repeatedly and I have my home cleaned multiple times a week. I wouldn't ask others to change their lives because of me. I had a dog who didn't like fireworks, or thunder, or loud motorcycles. I did what I could to comfort him. He is my responsibility. It gets so bad that at a local July fourth parade a resident tried to get bass drums removed from the band.

Whitley 12-28-2023 09:09 AM

Making noise at midnight (ie fireworks)is said to ward off evil spirits and intentions as you enter a new year. The noise scares off ill will and welcomes in happy celebration. Ancient Romans believed that if they spent the first day of the new year in a happy and pleasant manner, the rest of the year would follow along in the same way. Modern Romans continue this superstition by throwing massive parties with elaborate fireworks displays every New Year's Eve.

Topspinmo 12-28-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2286019)
As a young person fireworks were only on the 4th of July. Now they go off for most any excuse. For this reason I have lost interest, except on the 4th of July.

Any holiday all about making money. Making money means taxes and that makes it OK.:MOJE_whot:

kansasr 12-28-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2285962)
They are cramming a lot of Villas down there, but seriously you need some documentation to be throwing the 25% out there.

If you go to DISTRICTGOV.ORG and look at each districts adopted budget you can find the number of units in each district. Pretty easy to separate the districts that are within the city of Wildwood.

Normal 12-28-2023 10:22 AM

So Gracious
 
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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2285967)
I don't really care that part of my taxes goes to Wildwood. It's like a rounding error compared to my overall expenses.

My part of the Villages is in Wildwood and I would be very unlikely to vote for a Villages candidate over a non-Villages one.

Tax and spend mentality is for you, but not most retirees. To you a 100 dollars plus per month is nothing. To many retirees it is more. A lawn service, a couple nights out, a church donation, the electric bill, money for a grandchild?

Don’t kid yourself by thinking people don’t care if they are paying for nothing while their neighbors who live in other unincorporated area don’t pay a dime.


Over 10 years, without raises in the rate, taxes are 15,000 dollars on a home. Nothing to you.

Let’s ask the rest of the villagers who are unincorporated if they would like the same privilege.

It's Hot There 12-28-2023 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2286097)
Tax and spend mentality is for you, but not most retirees. To you a 100 dollars plus per month is nothing. To many retirees it is more. A lawn service, a couple nights out, a church donation, the electric bill, money for a grandchild?

Don’t kid yourself by thinking people don’t care if they are paying for nothing while their neighbors who live in other unincorporated area don’t pay a dime.


Over 10 years, without raises in the rate, taxes are 15,000 dollars on a home. Nothing to you.

Let’s ask the rest of the villagers who are unincorporated if they would like the same privilege.

Not seeing any point here.

offiprood 12-28-2023 10:26 AM

[that is a great plan to bring the community together. And spend money to help local businesses. QUOTE=Normal;2285640]Come on out and see your Wildwood tax money blown up on New Years!

A $138,000 contract with Zambelli Fireworks to provide a 20-minute display on July 3 this year and a seven-minute display for New Year’s, possibly at midnight.
That’s about 5 thousand dollars a minute![/QUOTE]

Normal 12-28-2023 10:55 AM

Point
 
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Originally Posted by It's Hot There (Post 2286100)
Not seeing any point here.

The point is much of the Villages south of 44 are taxed by a city that doesn’t even support them. Not just a small amount, but by more than a hundred dollars per month. Then they spend it on fireworks (This isn’t just the 4th which we all expect).

I so appreciate the rhetorical question. Thanks! I’ll try and spell it out for you:

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2285640)
Tax and spend mentality is for you, but not most retirees. To you a 100 dollars plus per month is nothing. To many retirees it is more. A lawn service, a couple nights out, a church donation, the electric bill, money for a grandchild?

Don’t kid yourself by thinking people don’t care if they are paying for nothing while their neighbors who live in other unincorporated area don’t pay a dime.


Over 10 years, without raises in the rate, taxes are 15,000 dollars on a home. Nothing to you.

Let’s ask the rest of the villagers who are unincorporated if they would like the same privilege.

We are taxed for the sole benefit of Wildwood,

Money raked in is used for things like 50,000 dollar parking spaces next to city hall and fireworks for additional holidays like New Years.

I hope this helps?

It's Hot There 12-28-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2286114)
The point is much of the Villages south of 44 are taxed by a city that doesn’t even support them. I hope this helps?

If you live South of 44, this should be of no surprise to you.......Wildwood Taxes, Most Cities have fireworks, Sometimes it's difficult to see the benefit of taxation, etc.

If you don't live South of 44, why post??

Bill Dozer 12-28-2023 12:33 PM

Pretty Flowers
 
Those pretty Flowers compliment our surroundings!

Normal 12-28-2023 12:45 PM

Yes They Do
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Dozer (Post 2286146)
Those pretty Flowers compliment our surroundings!

Great point!

Absolutely, one of the things I like about where we live. Those amenities are well worth it and have a lot more permanency than a quick fireworks show. We live in a beautiful place

Villagesgal 12-28-2023 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2286097)
Tax and spend mentality is for you, but not most retirees. To you a 100 dollars plus per month is nothing. To many retirees it is more. A lawn service, a couple nights out, a church donation, the electric bill, money for a grandchild?

Don’t kid yourself by thinking people don’t care if they are paying for nothing while their neighbors who live in other unincorporated area don’t pay a dime.


Over 10 years, without raises in the rate, taxes are 15,000 dollars on a home. Nothing to you.

Let’s ask the rest of the villagers who are unincorporated if they would like the same privilege.

Don't see your point. You bought in the City of Wildwood with your eyes wide open. We bought in the unincorporated area for a reason, lower taxes. If that additional tax money matters, then don't buy there. Simple as that.


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