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champion6 09-14-2019 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681032)
Well according to our neighborhood chat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again, look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle
It's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.

Taltarzac725 09-14-2019 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1681156)
It's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.
That is odd. I wonder why she/he stopped at 50?

Good that Community Standards was just calling the people to see if there were actually any problems with the law ornaments. That saves a lot of gas and time.

They should be anonymous though just in case there is something do some of these complaints. Some people can be quite vindictive.

karostay 09-14-2019 08:16 AM
I've been sited twice
Each time the complaint was unfounded..Contacted by community standards Via phone
My response was they should actually verify a complaint before calling and looking foolish

CFrance 09-14-2019 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681054)
Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom
She may have made these complaints via email. If so, you can demand a copy of the email under the Florida Sunshine law. Years ago someone from a neighboring village rode through Tamarind Grove and noted violations. That person then emailed the addresses and types of violation to deed compliance. Someone else went after the email and had to be given a copy of it. It was a woman from Buttonwood.


I'm so thankful for our Tamarind Grove CYV with stone landscaping and walls. But even in our Tamarind Grove designer, we just followed the rules. Easy peasy.

graciegirl 09-14-2019 08:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1681156)
It's unclear what "our neighborhood chat room" is.

However, on nextdoor.com, this was posted on Sept. 11:
"Ok Buttonwood neighbors, it seems a troll has struck our neighborhood. Today I received the dreaded call from Community Standards regarding a few lawn ornaments. I was told I was number 8 out of 50 complaints they received and they would not reveal the name of the one person making the complaints. All 50 were made by the same person. I’m guessing this person has no life and probably no friends. We will find out the identity of this person so to all that got hit, remember don’t get mad, get even."

Are we to believe that 50 Tamarind Grove homes and 50 Buttonwood homes have been reported? 100 homes reported in two groups of 50? Or 50 homes in Tamarind Grove and Buttonwood combined? Or ... WHO THE HE!! CARES.
Thank you Champion. That clears that part up at least.

NotGolfer 09-14-2019 08:40 AM
This whole subject has been beaten up and chewed and spit out all over the social media plus local "news" site way too much. In my opinion, all it does is stir up people's BP. I agree that trolls just need to find a hobby (other than doing this) BUT........there are so many ways to go with this. :popcorn: :boxing2:

Velvet 09-14-2019 08:41 AM
“A few lawn ornaments” do you get fined for each ornament separately?

The past owner left a couple of things on my front bed. Kind of hidden but if you’re weeding you can find them.

vintageogauge 09-14-2019 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 1681141)
I’ve been reported over 20 times for alleged weeds, if you saw how tiny the weeds were you would laugh you head off.
You sound proud of your weeds.

Chellybean 09-14-2019 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681148)
If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.
Again Gracie i think you are missing the point, your opinion may be your opinion and no one else in the neighborhood. If you don't live in that neighborhood then mind your own business. It is mean spirited no matter what way you look at it when someone goes around to report other neighborhoods infraction. Their life must be filled with hatred and very unhappy person, JMHO

tophcfa 09-14-2019 08:57 AM
Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

Chellybean 09-14-2019 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1681186)
Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.
That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

Velvet 09-14-2019 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681189)
That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO
This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?

Chellybean 09-14-2019 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681191)
This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?
i am not understanding your point? my reference was to complaint driven to selective enforcement lawsuit.

Velvet 09-14-2019 09:36 AM
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

Bogie Shooter 09-14-2019 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.
https://districtgov.org/departments/...%20Process.pdf

biker1 09-14-2019 10:25 AM
I believe it is actually quite the opposite. From a selective enforcement legal point of view, we are better off with a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and uniformly acted on. With the current system, Community Standards isn't responsible for monitoring. If they were responsible for monitoring, missed infractions could be the basis for selective enforcement legal actions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681189)
That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

njbchbum 09-14-2019 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.
Since you are not aware of the rule/regs re deed compliance, perhaps these websites will provide that info for you:

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...andardsFAQ.pdf

VCDD Community Standards

VCDD Community Standards

Velvet 09-14-2019 10:27 AM
Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.

graciegirl 09-14-2019 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.
NO one can complain about your flower bed if it is not pretty or has the Dahlias too close to the Hibiscus. NO objects or statuary or signs are allowed without asking community standards for permission and getting it first. If something is reported without permission, then it much be removed or you will be fined until you remove it or put it under your eaves. I think that the wealth referred to was about The Morses who put these rules in place. Check your deed restrictions. All people who don't like them, please don't move here. We have gobs aplenty who like them fine.

God save the King.

Bogie Shooter 09-14-2019 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681212)
Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.
Isn't it amazing what a few facts will do to an opinion?

CWGUY 09-14-2019 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1681210)
Since you are not aware of the rule/regs re deed compliance, perhaps these websites will provide that info for you:

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...andardsFAQ.pdf

VCDD Community Standards

VCDD Community Standards
:icon_wink: These are links to good information...... information people should read before buying.

And if you are not sure Velvet you live in District 6 or you own in District 6. :ho:

Velvet 09-14-2019 12:30 PM
Thank you for all the information. I did not get the deed restriction til about 2 months after closing... but my relatives lived in different parts of TV for 30 years before they passed away. Never had a problem they thought was worth mentioning about lawn ornaments.

karostay 09-14-2019 01:03 PM
Next thing ya know someone will want to put an addition on there garage

njbchbum 09-14-2019 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681253)
Thank you for all the information. I did not get the deed restriction til about 2 months after closing... but my relatives lived in different parts of TV for 30 years before they passed away. Never had a problem they thought was worth mentioning about lawn ornaments.
Dunno know where your relatives lived - but - there are no deed restrictions on the properties in the Historic Villages - Country Club Hills, Orange Blossom Gardens and Silver Lake. Folks can display to their hearts content - and they do! lol

Velvet 09-14-2019 01:54 PM
One lived in the historic area and the other lived in district 1. I think they weren’t big into displays anyways.

I was interested in this thread because the person I bought from had dementia and left 2 small items in the front for bed; a weathervane among the bushes so small you can’t see, and a planter, then one more empty planter at the back. I thought they’d take them before closing but they just left them and I closed remotely. And someone stole a bush from the front, and a brick, they could have taken the planters....

graciegirl 09-14-2019 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681281)
One lived in the historic area and the other lived in district 1. I think they weren’t big into displays anyways.

I was interested in this thread because the person I bought from had dementia and left 2 small items in the front for bed; a weathervane among the bushes so small you can’t see, and a planter, then one more empty planter at the back. I thought they’d take them before closing but they just left them and I closed remotely. And someone stole a bush from the front, and a brick, they could have taken the planters....
Do you think the person that stole a bush and a brick is the same woman who is driving a red cart and reporting deed restrictions? And yes, I am kidding.

Velvet 09-14-2019 02:21 PM
I would have given her a tip if she also took the planters.

oldtimes 09-14-2019 02:24 PM
I just find it sad that these people have nothing better to do with themselves than drive around looking for violations. How pathetic.

billlaur 09-14-2019 02:43 PM
if they are breaking the rules ,then they need to b reported....:bigbow::MOJE_whot::boom:

manaboutown 09-14-2019 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1681287)
I just find it sad that these people have nothing better to do with themselves than drive around looking for violations. How pathetic.
I think she gets off on nosing around and causing grief for as many strangers as she can.

billlaur 09-14-2019 02:50 PM
hey chillibean, this person is doing a gr8 service to the villages,rock on ,keep it looking like it should....

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-14-2019 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1681186)
Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.
That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.

crash 09-14-2019 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681139)
I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!
Totally agree ridiculous. I believe that only people in that neighborhood should be able to complain otherwise mind your own business.

graciegirl 09-14-2019 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681310)
That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.
I don't know if that is how it is or not. I have identified myself when I made the call. However, what you seem to think is that there is process to change the procedure. There isn't.

Should is a word with many applications; what does the word "should mean - Bing

seoulbrooks 09-14-2019 03:37 PM
Agree with patfla06. Just follow the deed restrictions. Nothing to worry about, they can report all they like. Seems like a lot of talk trying to reflect the wrong in the wrong direction. You are in compliance with your deed restrictions or you are not. If you want them changed follow the process, don't just stick something in your yard and complain about someone reporting or using the excuse my neighbors like "it", or my neighbors do "it". Get a Life......

mills3186 09-14-2019 03:57 PM
Find out where she lives and put a bunch of lawn ornaments in her yard (late some night)

Villageswimmer 09-14-2019 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681310)
That would still require that Community Standards knows WHO is making the complaint.

That's why I feel that one criteria alone can solve a LOT of problems. Complaint-makers should be required to identify themselves to Community Standards.

They don't have to identify themselves to anyone else, and CS shouldn't have to identify them to anyone either. The buck stops with CS.

Okay. Then what?

manaboutown 09-14-2019 05:15 PM
How about limiting the number of complaints any single Villager can make in a year to 5 or 10?

This wack job appears to be making at least 50 at a pop.

Bjeanj 09-14-2019 05:29 PM
I’m not getting involved in this conversation other than to comment that quite often when I am driving around in my cart, I like to stop and admire someone’s landscaping. Now I’m afraid to stop and look. Someone may think I’m writing up a complaint.

Tom53 09-14-2019 05:33 PM
Obviously this person has a limited social life and enjoys this. My suggestion to "get even" with this person is the following;

- Get you neighbors together via the private neighborhood blogs
- Wait until late evening
- All go out and remove your violations

Imagine her shock and disappointment when she comes back and finds NOTHING to report!

You'll probably never see her again, isn't worth it?


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