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tophcfa 12-24-2019 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1704455)
:icon_wink: Finish the statement...... "and they all stink!" :1rotfl:
“except for your own”. Now it’s finished 😎

Bogie Shooter 12-24-2019 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 1704446)
I started this because I thought it was amazing how far in advance the developer is thinking in terms of homes to already have plans for 60,000 new homes south of 470. But then it turned into the north vs south civil war, which is a shame.

On the lack of golf courses south of 44, I am a golfer that plays twice a week on championship courses and maybe once a week on Executive down south. It is not an problem for me to drive 30 minutes or less and get a free cart and play up north. I am 60 now so as I get older, hopefully a lot older, I may not want to drive. When this happens I suspect there will be at least a few championship courses down here and probably more executive courses if I want to dial back to just executives. Again, I am talking 15 years or more from now. I will also say there are very few golfers on my street and that really surprised me as I began to form my golf group down here.

Right now the amenities they have south of 44 are perfect for me. Connectivity, I really don’t care. More trails to ride my bike on, fantastic. Shopping, I have Amazon Prime for anything I want to buy and I don’t have to drive to a store. Groceries, a Publix 10 minutes away and WalMart in Leesburg less than 30 minutes away. Again, for me and my wife, these are no big deal and with the homes that are planned, the shopping will come.

Bottom line, we did our research, knew the bond amount and taxes, knew it was not connected and no guarantee of a date to complete, but love our lot and home down here in the frontier. We look forward to more people joining us as they build like crazy.
Refreshing to have a post from someone who actually lives south of 44.
So unlike those who don't and can only bash what they hear and not what they experience.

OhioBuckeye 12-24-2019 04:33 PM
Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1703947)
It might require a bigger gas tank on golf carts to be able to go all the way from the southern Villages to the Northern villages, play 18 holes, and return home. Notice I had to say go from the south to the north and not vice versa, because north is where the Championship Golf is located.
Yea, just about! But for sure an electric cart would be running awfully slow by the time you get home if you lived far south of TV. When the 60,000 homes get completed. You better get a gas cart.

EdFNJ 12-24-2019 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1704585)
Yea, just about! But for sure an electric cart would be running awfully slow by the time you get home if you lived far south of TV. When the 60,000 homes get completed. You better get a gas cart.
Not "for sure" but probably "for many." ;)

Brwne 12-25-2019 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dond1959 (Post 1704446)
I started this because I thought it was amazing how far in advance the developer is thinking in terms of homes to already have plans for 60,000 new homes south of 470. But then it turned into the north vs south civil war, which is a shame.

On the lack of golf courses south of 44, I am a golfer that plays twice a week on championship courses and maybe once a week on Executive down south. It is not an problem for me to drive 30 minutes or less and get a free cart and play up north. I am 60 now so as I get older, hopefully a lot older, I may not want to drive. When this happens I suspect there will be at least a few championship courses down here and probably more executive courses if I want to dial back to just executives. Again, I am talking 15 years or more from now. I will also say there are very few golfers on my street and that really surprised me as I began to form my golf group down here.

Right now the amenities they have south of 44 are perfect for me. Connectivity, I really don’t care. More trails to ride my bike on, fantastic. Shopping, I have Amazon Prime for anything I want to buy and I don’t have to drive to a store. Groceries, a Publix 10 minutes away and WalMart in Leesburg less than 30 minutes away. Again, for me and my wife, these are no big deal and with the homes that are planned, the shopping will come.

Bottom line, we did our research, knew the bond amount and taxes, knew it was not connected and no guarantee of a date to complete, but love our lot and home down here in the frontier. We look forward to more people joining us as they build like crazy.
We bought south of 44 BECAUSE there were so many homes planned for further south - in a few years we will be in the middle. On the south east corner of Warm Springs and TP, there is a medical facility planned. South of that, a new championship golf course. All this per a new Villages map shown to me last Sunday by a Villages agent holding an open house. Fingers crossed but good things are coming!

JoMar 12-25-2019 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1704617)
Not "for sure" but probably "for many." ;)
I agree, once TV gets that far south I doubt many will venture over 44. Similar to those in Spanish Springs venturing below 466A in large numbers. I also don't believe those moving in the years to come are as passionate about golf as us old folks are.

pauld315 12-25-2019 09:43 PM
No big deal, 250000 seniors just in TV driving to the north end on Morse to get to anything

joldnol 12-26-2019 06:08 PM
TV has property almost to Center Hill.

collie1228 12-27-2019 09:18 AM
I recently got on the Turnpike south from Wildwood and noticed that the new construction of homes starts right there at the entrance ramp, and continues for the next 5.1 miles to the Okahumpa service area. The houses closest to the highway get a pretty good view of the service area. Also noticed a lot of clear cutting of property on the opposite side of the Turnpike, which probably The Villages too, but I'm not sure. No conclusion from this, positive or negative, only that this is a lot of houses, stacked right on top of each other, for miles and miles.

Altavia 12-27-2019 09:30 AM
There is noise all over the Villages. I had a rental Villa that backed up to 466a. Road noise was so bad some times of the day you couldn't talk on the phone when on the Lanai. Pickup trucks with no muffler are everywhere. Didn't care since I didn't spend much time there.

Once you got a street or two away, the road noise was not so bad. The homes on the fringe catch the worst of it.

Encourage people spend some time early morning and after dark walking the site before purchasing any home/lot.

vintageogauge 12-27-2019 10:44 AM
There are evidently a lot of people that the noise doesn't bother, there are a lot of homes over there right on the Turnpike that have been sold and are occupied. I would rather hear wildlife myself so would not buy near a main road or highway. We had our Lanai enclosed with double pane sliders and can't even hear the birds anymore so maybe that is what these buyers will be doing to quiet it down.

capecoralbill 12-27-2019 03:31 PM
""We had our Lanai enclosed with double pane sliders and can't even hear the birds anymore""

How sad!

manaboutown 12-27-2019 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by capecoralbill (Post 1705225)
""We had our Lanai enclosed with double pane sliders and can't even hear the birds anymore""

How sad!
I can't hear the tick tock of my grandfather clock, crickets, frogs and birds anymore either because I am gradually losing my hearing. One of these days I really need to get a hearing aid!

On the upside the frogs during mating season used to keep me awake at night.

vintageogauge 12-27-2019 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by capecoralbill (Post 1705225)
""We had our Lanai enclosed with double pane sliders and can't even hear the birds anymore""

How sad!
Not sad, they're sliders and they do in fact open.

coffeebean 12-28-2019 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendaHB (Post 1704003)
One advantage to buying down south that no one has mentioned yet: nearly all of your neighbors will be fairly new as well, which I think makes it much easier to make friends and get plugged into a social circle. Sort of like going off to college (without the studying, LOL). That aspect appealed to me a lot, since I've never found it easy to make friends. It's especially hard when you move to an area where everyone there already has their social circles long-established.
We were lucky.....very lucky. We moved into a pre-owned home in a very established neighborhood. We were welcomed with open arms and have made many friends from our neighborhood. Having said that, there are so many more ways to meet people here in The Villages. There are clubs and activities which will afford you so many ways to meet new people. You just have to get out there.

coffeebean 12-28-2019 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1704080)
The bond is an opportunity? As i see it, the real opportunity involving the bond is to do what we did. We took advantage of an opportunity to buy a pre-owned home with a bond balance of zero : )
But....if you purchase a home with the bond paid off, wouldn't that be reflected in the asking price of the home and also be reflected in the purchase price?

vintageogauge 12-28-2019 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1705519)
But....if you purchase a home with the bond paid off, wouldn't that be reflected in the asking price of the home and also be reflected in the purchase price?
There are those that will say it does not but I believe that it does increase the purchase price and therefore the taxes will be higher based on the new selling price of the unit.

coffeebean 12-28-2019 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendaHB (Post 1704159)
Hey, maybe they'll eventually put in a light rail that runs all the way from Spanish Springs to the airport(s)! I can dream...

Already it's WAY too far to go by golf car from the southern to northern end or vice versa, even if all the bridges and tunnels were in place. A lot of Villagers would rather not have to drive their cars, so a good little light rail system would actually make a LOT of sense here. :)
Then what do you do for transportation once you get to your destination on the light rail?

coffeebean 12-28-2019 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Aw Man (Post 1704195)
I’ve been here 5 years now and I love The Villages, but this is still something I just don’t understand. Why, oh why, unless you’re going to and from a golf course, would anyone prefer to drive around The Villages in a golf cart rather than in their comfortable, climate controllable car?
Driving a golf cart is part of the lifestyle that folks buy in to. I personally do not drive our cart in the middle of the day during the summer. I would much prefer to drive our comfort controlled car. I do, however, love to drive the open air cart in the morning during the hot summer months. It is absolutely beautiful, even in the middle of summer. Driving the cart seems to be so much closer to nature and you can enjoy and appreciate the beauty around you much more than driving in the car. But.....that's just me.

coffeebean 12-28-2019 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1704199)
Really?

A couple miles to a square. A short ride to a sunset watching spot. A quick drive to a rec center to play billiards. Those times...among many other reasons...scream for a fun golf cart ride. :)
Agree.....driving the cart to the pool. PERFECT!!!

Two Bills 12-28-2019 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1705230)
I can't hear the tick tock of my grandfather clock, crickets, frogs and birds anymore either because I am gradually losing my hearing. One of these days I really need to get a hearing aid!

On the upside the frogs during mating season used to keep me awake at night.
I have a state of the art hearing aid, and I can hear a mosquito pass wind from 200 yards away.
Unfortunately, all that wind passing, still drowns out a lot of human speech!

coffeebean 12-28-2019 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1704318)
Easy answer, no Championship golf south of 44
Really? I didn't realize that. Is this why The Villages is not being marketed as a golf community south of 44? I've read the people are saying south of 44 is more for nature walks and such but not so much for golf. Now I understand.

Two Bills 12-28-2019 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1705539)
Really? I didn't realize that. Is this why The Villages is not being marketed as a golf community south of 44? I've read the people are saying south of 44 is more for nature walks and such but not so much for golf. Now I understand.
Nature walks once installed need very little maitainance.
Golf courses do!

coffeebean 12-28-2019 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brwne (Post 1704698)
We bought south of 44 BECAUSE there were so many homes planned for further south - in a few years we will be in the middle. On the south east corner of Warm Springs and TP, there is a medical facility planned. South of that, a new championship golf course. All this per a new Villages map shown to me last Sunday by a Villages agent holding an open house. Fingers crossed but good things are coming!
So.....there WILL be championship golf south of 44. Thanks for clarifying this.

Bogie Shooter 12-28-2019 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1705546)
So.....there WILL be championship golf south of 44. Thanks for clarifying this.
This has been stated many,many times on this site......

CFrance 12-28-2019 08:53 PM
I hope there will be more than one championship course for 60,000 homes.

asianthree 12-29-2019 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1705566)
I hope there will be more than one championship course for 60,000 homes.
With so many complaints on the cost to play Championships, When this course is finished, I bet you can get a tee time just as easy as you can on any other championship course.
Our priority group plays 4 days a week, there are unbelievable amounts of tee times, ten years ago it was a different story.

Heytubes 12-29-2019 08:42 AM
Think about short term rental so you can take your time looking. Better to invest a bit of $$$ for a rental than buying and then finding out you could have found a better location or deal. You’re gunna love it here. Welcome.

JoMar 12-29-2019 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1705532)
Then what do you do for transportation once you get to your destination on the light rail?
I suspect The Villages Golf Stores will rent you one for a nominal fee :)


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