What? I think you are talking about renters. The owners of those TV houses they rent are paying amenity fees every month.

Not at that gate, for the obvious reason

Good answer. OP could go to Town Square & take the golf cart bridge across but, why would a non villager want to get into the villages?

Are you listening to yourself? What difference does it make how he enters the Villages? He can drive his car there, spend his $ at a business, avail himself of the entertainment, so why not come in on a golf cart? I am certain the merchants in the area would welcome his business, especially in these trying times.

The historic side gate is really not very effective in stopping people from entering The Villages. From what I understand, they are allowed to cross 27/441 near the entrance of their development. That gives them access to Rio Grande which they are also allowed to cross.

The Historic Side gate only makes it less convenient for them.

Everyone does have access. Just not by golf cart. From what I understand, The Villages residents pay for the multi modal paths.


People from all over the country, including Spruce Creek and Stonecrest can drive their cars to the squares.

One of the reasons that the gate was installed is that people from outside The Villages were coming over and playing on the executive courses after they had closed. The starters and ambassadors leave at 7:00. In the summer there is plenty of time to play nine holes or more.

Sorry but you are mistaken. The cart gate (located in the historic section) thru which you must pass to enter TV doesn't have a red button as the public gates. The cart paths are for residents of TV whose fees pay for upkeep and access is restricted via gate cards.

Hi, like this website, the golf cart paths are for our residents to use. You should be able to golf cart in Spruce Creek and enjoy their resident websites.

Thank you. I agree. Why should they be entitled to use our golf cart paths.? First of all Spruce Creek South is allowed to cross 441 by golf cart only at their entrance gate light. And that happened only about maybe 7 to 8 yrs ago. Before that they could not
It was given permission because people were complaining they could only use their golf cart in their community but wanted to shop in Wal-Mart and others stores on the east side if 441. But does not give you the right to use our golf cart paths that we pay for.

Golf cart access is via a golf cart path. The Villages owns that path, it is private property and accessible only by people who pay for the privilege of having a gate pass.

At one point, there was an impenetrable barrier between that back road and Paradise Avenue. No one could get in or out through it. It was because of security concerns that they put it up. Obviously outsiders were coming in, unimpeded, and causing problems.

But the VIllagers living there demanded it be taken down, as in many cases, golf cart access was their ONLY access to the medical facilities there (some people on the Historic side don't have cars, only golf carts).

After a few months it was taken down and replaced with swing gates and cameras. Even now, we get outsiders breaking through the gates, or waiting on the outside in their carts, for someone to let them in, claiming they "forgot their card."

And sometimes you see people trying to leave the Historic side, claiming they "forgot their card."

If I don't recognize you, and you are trying to leave the Villages toward the parking areas that have empty flatbeds, I'll check for your Villages ID. If you say you left your wallet at home, then you'll need to go back for it anyway to show the doctor's office your insurance card, or to pay for your products at the store.

But yes that's why you, someone who doesn't live in the villages, is not allowed to take your golf cart on private property that belongs to someone else.

That's an opinion, not an answer.

If landlord gives guests a free guest pass for a monthly rental, the landlord can continue to use his resident pass

Roads in The Villages are public, hence available to residents and non-residents alike. Multi-modal (golf cart) paths are not. They are maintained using private resident funding. Why should/would we make their use available to residents of a non-Villages neighborhood? Are you OK with us stopping by and using, for example, your pools????

Thank you for the answer. I was hoping that I could get thru to Lowes from Spanish Springs that way.
Happy Thanksgiving

We live in the Villages and last winter we took our golf cart to Stonecrest to play a round of golf. The course was a nice and challenging layout, the conditions were OK, but not great, and the Winter green fees were 1/2 of what we would have paid to play a Championship course in the Villages. We absolutely love being able to take our own cart golfing and it’s nice to have a lower cost option during the Winter months. When we finished playing golf we went out for a very nice dinner with the money we saved on green fees. We will be doing this again this upcoming winter.

Gate Access
 

I see people using the button to get through the gates all the time. Can't you do that?

What are you, the rudeness police? What I posted was a response that was actually not rude. "At the next district meeting for the Village of Spruce Creek why don't you ask that question". I answered their question in a way that put the onus back on them. It's not our responsibility as Villagers to change our ways to accommodate a non-resident.

Rrr

Golf car access
 

Ditto the other direction. We would golf car to Cheers in the Stone Creek country club if we could.

No, not at the gate under discussion. There is a gate on the historic side, golf carts only, that outsiders in golf carts would like to use to enter the Villages. It only operates with a resident pass. No red button.

The general public have been using our golf courses in the late evening and our pools all day long. They do not pay for the amenities, and have no right to use them.

They are welcome to come in their cars to the squares to see the entertainment, to eat in restaurants, to shop in stores. Executive golf, pools, rec centers, and other amenities are for residents and their documented guests only. Even the cart paths are maintained with our amenity fees.

So when a Village employee comes to the pool and asks to see everyone's Village ID, be glad. They are protecting your investment.

I believe because the cart paths are maintained by the local CDD and we villagers pay an annual maintenance fee to the CDD, and one of the things that fee covers is the maintenance 0f the cart paths within the CDD.

Except then there are certain places the renter can't access--sports pools, for one. And in non-covid times, the classes were accessible to residents first, and then guests if the class was not filled.


If you come down and rent for the winter, it is preferable to have the ID card, not just the guest pass.

The issues with the carts are getting worse and worse ! The accidents deaths etc are probably higher than we know. I won’t ever get a cart and avoid them and anywhere they park.

True nothing is free here. In one form or another we pay for everything whether we use it ie not.Morse family needs as much money as possible

Agree with the first part, but you lost me with the snowbird addition... Can you explain how snowbirds pay $50 for 6 months of use? I thought the owner of the home pays every month for 12 months/yr no matter who or how long someone is there. Are you suggesting if they're renting that they're not effectively paying enough to cover the fees?

It’s a long dangerous ride by golf cart, be smart use a car.

That is not true. You can't cross CR466A or CR44 at a light in a Golf Cart. Read the ENTIRE law carefully not just parts that may SEEM to support your incorrect assumption.

Statutes & Constitution
:View Statutes : Online Sunshine

There are many other applicable sections in sections 2,3 & 4 in the link posted above (read it ALL) but this one is the most applicable:

(3) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, a golf cart may be operated for the purpose of crossing a street or highway where a single mobile home park is located on both sides of the street or highway and is divided by that street or highway, provided that the governmental entity having original jurisdiction over such street or highway shall review and approve the location of the crossing and require implementation of any traffic controls needed for safety purposes. This subsection shall apply only to residents or guests of the mobile home park.

Our club had a 2hr discussion about this with a Lieutenant from the Sumter County Sherrif's office at one of our meetings a number of months ago mainly discussing street legal carts. However your comment IS CORRECT if the golf cart is street legal as long as there is a "street legal" road on both sides of the highway. like crossing 441 at Rolling Acres or Morse or B.V. at 466 and 466A.

If you want golf cart access to The Villages, move to The Villages. You are not part of our community and do not merit the privileges we enjoy and for which we pay.

If you are paying for a rental, who in their right mind would accept a guest pass?
Nonsence.

Duh!

It's simple. You're not a Villager. Sell your house in Spruce Creek and purchase in The Villages where you will then have access to all of our amenities. Frankly I'm tired of the people who live outside of The Villages feeling a sense of entitlement for something you have no right to enjoy.

It’s not luck that we were able to buy in TV, we worked, saved and did our research. Luck had nothing to do with it.

Ttt

Cheers in Stonecrest
 

Cheers in Stonecrest, run by the previous owners of Demshars in Spanish Springs, is open to the public. Great food and service.
Restauran | Cheers at Stonecrest Country Club | United States

Street legal
 

. You can’t drive a street legal cart on 441 which is what you would have to do to get into TV.

HUH? That is EXACTLY what I put in the post you just quoted so not sure of your point however you stated:
It IS a special deal for STONCREST since "provided that the governmental entity having original jurisdiction over such street or highway shall review and approve the location of the crossing and require implementation of any traffic controls needed for safety purposes." \

See what happens if a cop sees you crossing 466A, 466 or 44 in a golf cart on Morse or BV.

You must have missed the part that the owner pays amenities fees 12 months per year, even if they only use the house 3 months. That does not change even in death, until the house is sold. The renters $50 is just more icing on the cake. I am surprised as a resident you didn’t know how amenities fee works

I really get upset when I read things like "Morse family needs as much money as possible".

It is not a SHAME to have a profit when you run a business.

When you successfully run a business you also are providing employment for OTHER people.

When you successfully run a business it generally grows and gets bigger.

I believe that there is a limit to what money can buy. Many people very much like the Morse family have started with not much and carefully grew their business until they became hugely successful with more money than they need. That does not make them wrong, bad, or evil.

There are people who are underhanded and greedy. They are everywhere, and probably due in part to the fact that parents are NO longer on hand every minute during a child's first five years when rules and moral standards are imparted.

Or maybe it is due to other factors. We all have our views on why some people have ethics and some do not.

I have never met anyone who ever said to their beloved children, "Do well in school, so that you can grow up and not make much money, and continue to live off of us and if that doesn't work, someone will give you public assistance". NO ONE says that or thinks that.

So when I read people say that the Morse family is greedy, I almost always think they are jealous, don't live here, haven't learned to save and do without and delay gratification and work hard.

Help me down.

Villagers pay amenity fees, part of which go to pay to maintain the multimodal cart paths which are located on private property owned by the Villages. They are not open for public use. You want golf cart access, buy a home in the Villages. We are not allowed to use your privately owned pools and rec centers, you are not allowed to use ours. Simple as that and it makes total sense that way.

It's war
 

now that we know spruce creek south has invaded the villages i think it's time we rolled out the barbwire, mobilize our fleet of classic cars, surround them with our softball army,arm all our archers and dam up the water supply to scs until they unconditionaly surrender.