Oh my..... can someone build a bridge from Del Webb so I can get to the Villages with my golf cart? Maybe include the Flea Market too!

thank you for the distinct honor of being the first to publicly thank you. 6 years goes by real quick

Guest pass
 

Many renters are not aware of the difference between guest pass and white resident pass which means the owner gave up rights to renter. Snowbirds that own pay amenity fees year round not just when they are here.

I'm pretty sure he knows how the amenity fee works. The $50 comment pertained to an earlier post, in which a landlord would obtain guest passes for his renters, instead of temporarily surrendering his resident pass. But he would still collect $50 and pocket it. (There is no fee to obtain a guest pass.)

But, as Two Bills' Post 69 points out, why would a renter ever agree to that, unless they were very short term and didn't mind not having access to all amenities. Also, I don't think guest passes are issued for a stay more than 30 days but, never having tried that, I don't know for sure.

Actually, although Villagers can drive through the historic section gate and go to Aldi, Lowes, Wal Mart and other stores over there, I don't believe that they can drive into Spruce Creek.

And if the OP can drive anywhere in the Villages he can certainly get to Spanish Springs Town Square. He just can't get there through that gate.

I find it interesting that so many people from Spruce Creek are interested in driving their golf carts to The Villages but I've never heard of a Villages resident that wanted to drive his golf cart into Spruce Creek.

Spruce Creek is NOT part of TV
 

Because where you bought is not part of this community.

If you want to circumvent villages golf cart paths get a street legal cart and you should be able to get there. Otherwise tough luck or move.

Golf cart passage
 

There was some dispute coming from some business owner or land owner or developer about golf cart passage over to that Lowe’s area. It was not Lowe’s with the problem. It was some type medical housing business.

Any way at first all passage from the Villages to that area was blocked. However Villages residents complained that several doctor offices and medical facilities.

So at that point a gate was installed to allow Village residents access to that property while still restricting cart flow from other areas.

This was simply a business dispute by someone not wanting carts crossing their property.

It was not the Villages being restrictive of Spruce Creek residents.

The rationale , as I understand it, is the Village residents pay a cart fee to use and maintain the extensive cart paths. Since I use to live in Spruce Creek South I can understand your frustration as you can drive your car there but not your golf cart. Your money is good there to support the stores, restaurants and entertainment centers ( tickets are sold to the public) but yet you can't ride your golf cart over there. Years ago I suggested, on this site, that the Villages sell gate passes to our neighbors who support the villages. That money would be used to maintain the cart paths. The card users would have prove residency in a surrounding community like Spruce Creek South or Stonecrest. Both communities have great residents ! I don't know if the southern villages (South of 44) this plan would be good.

The rationale , as I understand it, is the Village residents pay a cart fee to use and maintain the extensive cart paths. Since I use to live in Spruce Creek South I can understand your frustration as you can drive your car there but not your golf cart. Your money is good there to support the stores, restaurants and entertainment centers ( tickets are sold to the public) but yet you can't ride your golf cart over there. Years ago I suggested, on this site, that the Villages sell gate passes to our neighbors who support the villages. That money would be used to maintain the cart paths. The card users would have prove residency in a surrounding community like Spruce Creek South or Stonecrest. Both communities have great residents ! I don't know if the southern villages (South of 44) this plan would be good.

Have you not read all these comments? We PAY for all the golf cart paths, pools, rec centers, etc. We do not want people from any other communities to come in to use these roadways and facilities. We don't care if you do or don't want to shop or eat in The Villages but you may if you wish. You must walk or drive a car to do that. The Villages is not your neighborhood playground.

That doesn't really make sense either ? This is far from a "private" community, (as around Orlando) I have friends in two of them, they are FAR above the financial ability of most (not all of course) of the people who live here. They pay nearly 10K a year for private roads ONLY, that is not their many other costs and fees. ALL of our roads are public, therefore why someone from S.Creek would have to live here and pay fees makes absolutely no sense to me, but, not on here to posture and pretend to be an expert ! I would think anyone could come in the auto or golf cart until such a day that this becomes some kind of private, exclusive, community.... doubt that's going to happen with the majority of "middle class" (?) people retired here. The "gates" are for optics only. At a private community, landscapers, appliance service people, EVERYONE stays OUTSIDE the gates, EVERYONE, until the home owner is called and present. If anyone has lived in one of these knows, this is true. In the block of my village, one half of the residents have golf carts, and exactly the same number of homes do not. Don't play and don't care to drive around in the open air or with roll downs or club cabs, prefer their own autos. There are no fees for carts unless one intends to run them ON the golf courses, so, don't think anyone has to live here or pay anything to come here. I think it's possible they just don't know the WAY to come from some of the nearby developments like Spruce C.

What you say could be true, but I have neighbors behind, two doors down, and across the street from me who have also been here 12-18 years and have never paid any kind of cart fee to maintain cart paths. None of these people play golf and have never had to pay a cart fee ! I too found it strange the very first time I went to pay my annual cart fee, why (?) I was not given some kind of annual sticker for the cart (had that in other golf communities (not retirement communities) where we've lived during our working lives. But here, have always been told, no sticker needed because it only comes into importance when you check in to play GOLF....other wise, no fees have to be paid because the only time it is checked is when you check in at the started shack and it shows on screen if you are paid or not ! ?

Press the RED button, this is not a private community and you don't need a "card". At manned gates, they absolutely have no legal right to refuse to let you in ! YOUR tax money pays for "our" roads as does "our" tax money pay for yours. It's only to "slow" traffic down a little, and frankly, the way double tandem landscape trucks, furniture delivery vans, and others just finding a shorter way to work who use this a a "cut through" and regularly do over 40 mph, the gate "illusion" does not do a whole lot, seen so many close calls, trucks trying to pass at 40 on very narrow streets, huge rigs with landscape equipment, big mowers better suited to farms than the majority of small lawns here, but helps some I suppose.
I think that is why so many are killed in golf carts, NOT because people come from other retirement communities and over whelm so much that accident rate is so high. MANY years ago, there were WARNINGS posted to automobiles: Caution, you are entering a GOLF CART community, Golf Carts have the right of way ! That was when we were still in our careers and rented directly from The Villages. Once we bought a lot and built here, those signs (sadly) began to come down until all were removed. I think that might help cut down some on accidents and deaths.... don't think it's folks from other retirement communities. Bet all the stores like Barnes & Noble, Target, City Furniture, on and on would not be here if these streets and roads were "private" ! ?

There is a golf cart only gate leaving the historic section allowing people to get to Lowes. No red button so you need your gate pass to get back.

I wish people would take the trouble to learn about their community. Fees do not go to the Morse family.

Thank you
 

That is exactly why I originally asked the question. I can drive our car everywhere in the Villages but at night it is very hard to find parking. It would be much easier with our golf cart. We spend money every time we go there. Giving access may end up being a good thing financially.

The “village police” have spoken. :blahblahblah::rolleyes:

You can take your golf cart to Stone Crest and Spruce Creek.

That’s the whole problem with the Villagers, you think you’re privileged!!!

Trail fees allow you to take your cart onto the executive courses. Your annual maintenance assessment (which everyone pays) pays for maintenance of lots of things in our community.

golf cart
 

I have no reason to go to Stone Crest or Spruce Creek. We pay maintenance fees and amenity fees to live here. Outsiders do not belong on our multimodal paths.

The OP has spoken. Gives true meaning to the reason for the thread.

The "back gate", sometimes referred to as the Lowes Gate, is between to houses on Paradise Blvd near the Boone Access gate (country club hills).
You can definitely get to stonecrest, but I dont know if theyll let you in.
The Lowes gate gives you golf cart access to Medical facilities, WaWa, Lowes, cracker barrel, Bealls outlet, Aldi's, Walmart, and some other stores and restaurants

Are you allowed to cross 27/441 in your golf cart?

I don't think that anyone owes you an explanation. The Villages has every right to determine who can used their multi modal paths.

But one answer is that about seven years ago, people from outside The Villages were coming in their golf carts and playing golf on our executive courses after hours. The starters and ambassadors would leave at 7:00 pm. In the summer there is more than enough time to play nine holes after 7:00. That is why The Villages decided to put up a gate. Originally it was a solid wall but many of The Villages residents complained that they couldn't get to the retail stores and medical facilities in their golf carts. Some residents do not have cars and only have their golf carts.

I know one woman who, at the time was working at Aldi. She did not have a drivers license and would take her golf cart to work. She was surprised when one morning there was a wall preventing her from getting to work. She was one of the thousands that complained. The result was the gate.

The property on which the medical facilities, Lowes, Wawa, Aldi Wal Mart and all of those other businesses is not part of The Villages nor is it part of Stonecrest, Spruce Creek or any other development. The people that own it have allowed golf cart traffic. I'm sure that it's in their best interest as it probably increases sales from The Villages and Stonecrest.

I don't know if people in Spruce Creek South are allowed the cross 27441in their golf carts to get over there or not. I do know that The Villages went through a lot of expense to build a golf cart bridge so that out residence can cross safely.

Cart fee? Are you rambling about the Executive Courses Trail fee?

In the case of you using your cart.......yes we are!

Maybe read the replies on this thread before you start yelling? If you had, you'd know that this gate does not have a red button.
And outsiders tax money does NOT pay for upkeep of multi modal paths, RESIDENTS DO.

Yep, we're saying the same thing. We both understand how fees work. Not sure why someone stated that snowbirds were getting by for $50 for 6 months when the fee is certainly paid by someone and likely passed on in the rent.

Simple. Because we pay to maintain the cart paths in TV, you don’t.

Right. And, those multi-modal paths are not "golf cart paths" only, although they may appear that way. They are supposed to be for walkers, runners, bicyclers, maybe skaters, too.

Key card for what?

If you mean the gates, just push the red button to open them.

If I recall correctly what I read last week, over a period of about eight years there were over 800 golf cart accidents in The Villages. A huge percentage of those led to people being hospitalized, and another large percentage of the injuries were due to people falling out of the golf cart because of the accident.

Accordingly, I’ve purchased from Amazon a set of seatbelts for my twenty year old golf cart (which came with the house), and I’ll be installing them soon. It’s easy. I always wear my seatbelt in my car. Why shouldn’t I wear one in my golf cart? What if I have a passenger, take a sharp turn, and the passenger falls out? Would I be liable? And if I don’t have golf cart insurance, would it come out of my pocket?

Sorry, but I don't buy that argument. Yes, the roads are publicly funded, but the MMPs are NOT. Why should someone get to use a path that they did not pay for, and it's ridiculous to state that makes Villagers "entitled" (not your statement). The nearly 10K/year in a truly gated community, of which there are plenty in Florida, is not just for private roads. It is a HOA fee that covers the private gates, the roads, the clubhouse/rec center, the common area landscaping and just about everything else that we pay for in TV, only more expensive. When you go to a movie and pay for a ticket, and someone sneaks in and sits next to you, are you "entitled" for thinking they don't belong there? For thinking if they want to use this theater they should pay for the privilege? And not everyone who sneaks in from the outside intends on spending money at the stores----they are sneaking onto exec courses after they close and using pools, again without paying for the privilege.
If people want everything to be "free", and to have "equal rights" and the same standard of living, I would suggest they consider emigrating to North Korea. We are a capitalist nation and as such there will always be those that can afford a better home, golf course, community etc.

See the dozens of posts in this thread that explain that this gate does not have a red button.
Does anyone actually read a thread, or do they get so excited to comment that they just jump on that reply button. It's really getting annoying.

It tends to expose a level of ignorance....:duck:

Spruce creek is NOT a part of the Villages.
The only place you may need a gate pass is between Walmart and the villages. I have gon through that gate with no key card.

Mister Mxyzptlk, SIR
 

what part of p r i v a t e p r o p e r t y
do you not understand?
In some places they write
trespassers will be shot
others
trespassers will be prosecuted
you made a choice not to live in tv
get over it. Is it ocd?
Because you clearly have access to all but 1 gate
is it driving you mad?
If so bring a drs note to appropriate meeting to seek a remedy
maybe you'll find a card on the floor or in the mail who knows?
But you cannot strong arm your way in the way you presented your case

Come On Folks.... There is a lot of mis-information in this thread....Cut to the Chase....People in Spruce Creek or elsewhere outside The Villages properties DO NOT PAY FEES IN THE VILLAGES. Therefore, the cart paths are not at their disposal . Same as I do not pay fees at Spruce Creek and become eligible to use their pools etc. It's not about being special. It is what A VILLAGER is eligible for and pays for. Do NOT confuse this with Trail Fees for Golfers on Executive courses. END OF STORY!!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

What I observe is somewhat ironic. 98% of cyclists blow through stop signs, about 75% of cart drivers, and less than 10% of car drivers, and yet these are basically all the same people. The ironic part is that those who are most vulnerable to injury on a bicycle are the least likely to follow the traffic directions that are designed to avoid accidents.