Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 404829)

Gracie, the minister is SalyBow. She stated she had witnessed the incident and was basically called a liar. That's just wrong.

At one point, it was implied the incident didn't happen because it wasn't reported in a local newspaper and that the original poster was making it up. Again, that's just wrong.

Yes, we speculate. It's human nature. But some of the comments were well beyond mere speculation. It was automatically assumed that the man didn't remember or know anything because he was on drugs, not because he'd been hit on the head with a pipe (that was my first thought on why he didn't know what was happening).

Maybe we should work more on getting facts and waiting before we condemn, judge or, yes, even speculate. There's something wrong when people call another a liar before all the facts are out. There's something sad about automatically assuming the worst about another human because something happened to them and they aren't one of "us." Isn't that how vigilantes work?

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 404747)

This thread is truly sickening. Not the incident. It happened, we don't know why and it is over and we will probably never know the facts.

Some of you basically called the OP and one of our members a liar. It seems that whenever something doesn't fit into the scheme of images of TV, then the poster is lying. It was said it didn't happen because it wasn't reported in either the Sun or the Sentinel. It was implied that the OP made it up since it was second- or third-hand information. One member was basically called a liar because she said she witnessed the incident. (BTW -- I know salybow -- not only is she NOT a liar, she is a minister. I think someone owes her a very sincere and abject apology.)

The victim had head trauma injuries. He wasn't from TV; he was under 55. Rather than thinking he might actually not remember and have no clue why it happened, it is decided it had to be drugs and he was lying to cover up his own guilt. Hope you guys never serve on a jury. It really is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and not just proven guilty on speculation.

Yes, there's a drug problem in outlying communities. There are also a lot of decent, hardworking people that live there. We don't know why the man was attacked. The odds of it being random are pretty slim, but road rage is a very good possibility, so is an argument at a restaurant or in the square, so is a debt being owed, so is .... Many scenarios are possible but we don't have the right to speculate.

As to the comment that, "In another thread regarding 'concealed weapon permits', there were several posters who indicated they always carried their pistols while in The Villages at night. What kind of chaotic damage would have been caused if one of those 'loose cannons' (no pun intended) had been there and started opening fire?" I am willing to bet that there were several people who were milling around who in fact were carrying. Most who carry are anything but loose cannons; they are very tightly controlled, especially when it comes to their weapons.

When did we become so suspicious and judgmental that we will accuse each other of lying? That we automatically assume the worst of another human when that human becomes a victim? Is it really that much easier to think the worst of someone on just pure speculation?

Originally Posted by BnCinME (Post 404567)

I just checked the Orlando Sentinal and didn't find anything. I agree with an earlier poster-it's a wonder that no one from TOTV was there and witnessed the incident. It appears to be third hand news. :blahblahblah:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 404855)

There are now 13 pages to this thread. What that says to me is that posters are concerned. Concerned people seek information. Informed people make demands of their leaders. I for one am very grateul for the interest in this issue. Go residents!

Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 404867)

It did happen. The man was hurt. I judge he was younger than TV age . The street was bloody but it was raining and head wounds do bleed profusely. A man jumped out of a red SUV and hit him over the head. He fell and hit hie head once more. Thay put him on a backboard and transported him to the hospital.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 404946)

Gracie, I'm sure the idiot who hit the guy felt he deserved it, but it could have been anything from road rage to commitment issues to owed money to drugs to .... Truth is my issue was more that we're so willing to judge and accuse in TOTV lately. I hope it quits soon.

Two members were basically called liars; I was accused of preaching; licensed gun holders/carriers were called loose cannons.

And, VG, feel free to not read my posts. I promise to have no problem ignoring yours.

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 404966)

:popcorn::popcorn:You need to share your popcorn.....giggle....
Everytime I see Brillo's post of popcorn it cracks me up BECAUSE that is what we all need to do, to so many posts on TOTV....I just love it! :clap2::clap2: