[QUOTE=Jayhawk;877899]Yes, they were in business before April 18, but they were NOT in business 7 months earlier when the email you posted to support your position was originally written. Probably just an oversight on your part.

Now that is a fact. At your suggestion, I verified it


Maybe now you can verify they (still) don't have a permit as Wildwood hasn't even met to decide whether to issue them or not...and the permit has to come from Wildwood.

Still say all is OK, maybe another oversight.

May 12th , 2014 News Article you can Google it still if you desire.

http://www.**************.com/square...ng-restaurant/

Square 1 Burgers seeks approval for ‘doggie dining’ at its restaurant
May 12, 2014 By Meta Minton 81 Comments
Square 1 Burgers & Bar in Pinellas Plaza.
Square 1 Burgers & Bar in Pinellas Plaza.
Square 1 Burgers & Bar wants to offer “doggie dining” on the patio of the new restaurant in Pinellas Plaza in The Villages.
To do so, the restaurant must first persuade the Wildwood City Commission to approve an ordinance permitting dogs to dine alongside restaurant patrons.
It would be a first in the city of Wildwood.
“I don’t understand it, but I know it’s getting popular,” said Wildwood Mayor Ed Wolf.
The idea of an ordinance was presented to commissioners Monday night by Jason McHugh, Wildwood’s development services coordinator.
He said it is his understanding that other Square 1 Burgers locations offer doggie dining, including a special menu for canines.
The commissioners were open to the idea of an ordinance and will consider the measure at a future meeting.

What a treat that would be for these 4 legged guys!

I agree, jalopy:agree:

[quote=KeepingItReal;877904]



It doesn't have to come from ANYONE since they are located in Wildwood, Sumter County. This was verified in the last thread on this same topic:

To refresh your memory -


The state of Florida leaves it to each local government to decide whether they will require any kind of permit. Neither the City of Wildwood or Sumter County require one.

There is a requirement to post the health, safety, and general welfare rules so patrons can read them (I made a large 11"x17" sign that should be on display on the patio), but that is the only requirement.

I'm including a link to the Sumter County Code of Ordinances that directly addresses the issue of dogs in public food establishments. There is a lot of information in there, but what we discovered in all of my conversations with the city and the county is that at the very end of the ordinance (section d) the requirements for a permit expired in July of 2009.

DIVISION 3. SALES AND SERVICES

I appreciate your interest in standing up for the dogs, we think it's a great thing for people to be able to bring them out with them—now if I could only bring my cats . . . !

Have a good afternoon and please let me know if you have any other


Jarrod Dyer
Director of Communication
and Special Projects
Square 1 Burgers & Bar
o 813.902.3717
m 646.246.8049



So, they can't very well violate a law that does not exist.

Look, we are beating a dead horse. S1 is legally operating a business. If you don't approve of it, don't go there. I don't like Greek food so I generally don't go to Greek restaurants. But if I did go, I sure wouldn't gripe about their food.

IT IS ALL ABOUT CHOICES. Isn't that a great thing?

:bigbow:

[quote=Jayhawk;877911]

It doesn't have to come from ANYONE since they are located in Wildwood, Sumter County. This was verified in the last thread on this same topic:

To refresh your memory -


The state of Florida leaves it to each local government to decide whether they will require any kind of permit. Neither the City of Wildwood or Sumter County require one.

There is a requirement to post the health, safety, and general welfare rules so patrons can read them (I made a large 11"x17" sign that should be on display on the patio), but that is the only requirement.

I'm including a link to the Sumter County Code of Ordinances that directly addresses the issue of dogs in public food establishments. There is a lot of information in there, but what we discovered in all of my conversations with the city and the county is that at the very end of the ordinance (section d) the requirements for a permit expired in July of 2009.

DIVISION 3. SALES AND SERVICES

I appreciate your interest in standing up for the dogs, we think it's a great thing for people to be able to bring them out with them—now if I could only bring my cats . . . !

Have a good afternoon and please let me know if you have any other


Jarrod Dyer
Director of Communication
and Special Projects
Square 1 Burgers & Bar
o 813.902.3717
m 646.246.8049



So, they can't very well violate a law that does not exist.

Look, we are beating a dead horse. S1 is legally operating a business. If you don't approve of it, don't go there. I don't like Greek food so I generally don't go to Greek restaurants. But if I did go, I sure wouldn't gripe about their food.

IT IS ALL ABOUT CHOICES. Isn't that a great thing? :bigbow:




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IT'S ALL ABOUT FOLLOWING THE LAW, NOT OUR CHOICES.

Since you insist here is some more recent information from Mr. Holly that shows Mr. Dyer was totally mistaken in his statements and possibly explains why they are now trying to get the permit from Wildwood that has been required all along..

Quote:

Karl E. Holley, AICP, CFM
Director of Development Services
Sumter County Board of Commissioners
7375 Powell Road
Wildwood, Florida 34785
(352) 689-4463
www.sumtercountyfl.gov

"There seems to be a bit of confusion on the part of the parties involved. The first clarification that needs to be made is that the subject business is located within the corporate limits of the City of Wildwood, and is therefore not subject to the Sumter County Land Development Code. The second is that Section 509.233 of the Florida Statues simply provides for a local exemption from the Federal Food and Drug Administration Food Code, which has been adopted in its entirety by the State of Florida. The FDA food code prohibits non-service animals in the dining areas of food service establishments which are subject to the Code. F.S. 509.233 is still completely in effect, but had it been allowed to expire, it would NOT have authorized restaurants to allow dogs in food services areas without permits; it would have prohibited local governments from exempting restaurants from the requirements of the Food Code. I do not know if the City of Wildwood has adopted "code provisions" which would establish a process for the implementation of the local exemption, but if they have not, the presence of dogs in any of Square 1’s dining areas would be prohibited by Florida Statute".

Dogs dining on the patio with little menues written in doglish. :a040:
That's a business we'll be supporting!

A new Atlas Recreation Center for Pets. :pepper2:

This will be great!! Can't wait! Our pups will be treated well!!

Now we're barking - I mean talking!!!

Yes!!!!:bigbow:

:bigbow:

We have been to many restaurants with our dogs and they have never been a problem. I like going places with them and like like being included also. I am not a burger eater or really a meat eater for that matter so a restaurant that claims to be a "burger" restaurant would be one I would never go to. However, one that I can take my dog to encourages me to find something, ANYTHING, on the menu just to help them stay open. One dog lover in and a counter balance for those who dislike dogs and want to make a point by staying away when it's just a statement for them as well since they don't actually have to sit on the patio if they don't choose to. We plan our outings many times according to where our dogs can be included and appreciate it when it can include a restaurant.

It will be nice to have a place
 

Where Everybody Knows Your Name.

More Wag, Less Bark.

Cisco Kid, you and DougB keep TOTV a fun place to visit!
I'm your :eclipsee_gold_cup: fan!

Yesterday I went to Too Jays and a lady walked in holding her little dog and then laying him or her on the seat next to her, she was in a booth. I called the manager over and he told me if he would say anything they would sue him bull she should follow the laws I really don't think anything was wrong with her . You can phony papers and say they need the dog for service. I don't have anything against dogs or cats but I don't want them where I go out dinner with my husband ....I will not go back to Too Jays anymore....I know I will get feed back from this post but to tell you the truth I don't give a dame I have my rights also...The village is getting out of hand with their pets I know they love them but think of the people who don't have a pet. Like I always say if the shoe was on the other foot how would you feel.....Even in stores where people buy clothes they put their dogs in the cart where people put their clothes in come on people wake up.....

You don't know if that little dog is trained to detect seizures or some other problem that person might have.

No judgments, just two questions -

1. Are you a retired doctor or medical professional who can judge whether or not this person qualifies for some type of service dog?

2. Would you also never return if, instead of a small lap dog, it was a full size Labrador service dog?

After considering these questions, maybe you will fell different. If not, certainly your right.

Have a great Villages day !!!

:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

If there wa$'nt an advantage , they would not do it. There are many dollar$ in the pet industry to be made. Dog-Friendly Restaurant Guide - DogFriendly.com
They are not con$idering this just to be nice. Bu$ine$$ is bu$ine$$.

There was a post earlier where someone said they had about the same encounter at TooJays and the manager asked the person with the dog to leave - and they did. Doesn't sound as if there is a sound policy on the matter.

Anyhow, the manager can ask if it is a service animal and what it does for the person. The manager cannot ask the person what kind of disability they have.

When the manager told you he could be sued if he asked, did YOU get up and leave AND tell the manager he lost you as a customer?

Yesterday at Publix I saw a couple enter the store with their darling little pooch in the baby seat of the cart. Manager stopped them at the door and advised dogs were not allowed. They commented they had just seen someone the other day in the store with a dog so they thought it was okay. Manager explained some get by us. It was handled well by all parties. I would probably draw the line at bringing a dog to a grocery story, but I'm pretty open to most other situations.

Probably a different manager on duty at the time. Apparently service dogs don't have to have an identification tag on them. I think they should for the comfort of everybody concerned.

As you know, the service dog vest and papers can be bought on the internet for not much money along with "rules" that tell the non-legit users what to say to intimidate restaurant owners.

In my opinion, the only dogs that should be allowed in a restaurant are Seeing Eye Dogs for the blind people.

With that breed of dog (pit bull) not too surprised.