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lovsthosebigdogs 05-15-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tippyclubb (Post 877875)
They have a restaurant in Tampa that allows dogs on the patio and we have been there many times. Not once have we seen any problems, no barking, no growling or aggressiveness, and they don't relieve themselves on the patio. This restaurant is always jam packed and those that choose not to be around the dogs simply sit inside. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 877894)
Thank you, jayhawk. I think there is one other restaurant in TV that has the proper permits to allow dogs on their patio. I think it's Red Sauce. Or Cody's. Hopefully there will be more.

There are many restaurants in the Keys that have allowed this for years. Shoot, we were told by staff to bring our first golden inside one time at The Fish House in Key Largo, because it was too hot outside. They put us in a little out-of-the-way alcove booth. I'm sure it wasn't legal, but that's the Keys for ya.They are their own little kingdom. Key West is full of dog-patio-friendly restaurants, and in the six winters we spent there, we never heard a complaint in the newspaper or on a forum. It was just accepted practice.

Allowing pets on patios is a legal possibility in FL. A restaurant just has to apply for the permits. People will either get used to it or go elsewhere, but I don't think it will cause any of them to go out of business. The hotel industry has been forward thinking on this issue. It used to be impossible to find a hotel that accepts pets. People insisted on traveling with their pets. Lowes Hotels started out accepting pets, delivering a mat and bowls, a menu, and a goodie bag to your room. It was called Lowes Loves Pets. Hilton soon followed. The less expensive hotels started falling in line. Money talks. We will go where they are accepted, as will millions of others.

Frankly, we leave our 90-lb dog at home, for his own comfort, not anybody else's. He gets too hot outside in close quarters. But he would be among the best behaved dogs there. And he would love the chicken and steamed broccoli. Someday we might have a smaller dog, and then look out!

We have been to many restaurants with our dogs and they have never been a problem. I like going places with them and like like being included also. I am not a burger eater or really a meat eater for that matter so a restaurant that claims to be a "burger" restaurant would be one I would never go to. However, one that I can take my dog to encourages me to find something, ANYTHING, on the menu just to help them stay open. One dog lover in and a counter balance for those who dislike dogs and want to make a point by staying away when it's just a statement for them as well since they don't actually have to sit on the patio if they don't choose to. We plan our outings many times according to where our dogs can be included and appreciate it when it can include a restaurant.

Cisco Kid 05-15-2014 04:03 PM

It will be nice to have a place
 
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Where Everybody Knows Your Name.

More Wag, Less Bark.

Barefoot 05-15-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cisco Kid (Post 878324)
Where Everybody Knows Your Name.
More Wag, Less Bark.

Cisco Kid, you and DougB keep TOTV a fun place to visit!
I'm your :eclipsee_gold_cup: fan!

Josie70 05-16-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 877167)
Seems there are several of these places in Los Angeles. Los Angeles Restaurants featuring special Menus for Dogs - Los Angeles LA | Examiner.com

Los Angeles has Public Health Guidelines for Outdoor Dog Dining -- http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/vet...ngComplete.pdf

Yesterday I went to Too Jays and a lady walked in holding her little dog and then laying him or her on the seat next to her, she was in a booth. I called the manager over and he told me if he would say anything they would sue him bull she should follow the laws I really don't think anything was wrong with her . You can phony papers and say they need the dog for service. I don't have anything against dogs or cats but I don't want them where I go out dinner with my husband ....I will not go back to Too Jays anymore....I know I will get feed back from this post but to tell you the truth I don't give a dame I have my rights also...The village is getting out of hand with their pets I know they love them but think of the people who don't have a pet. Like I always say if the shoe was on the other foot how would you feel.....Even in stores where people buy clothes they put their dogs in the cart where people put their clothes in come on people wake up.....

Bonny 05-16-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Josie70 (Post 878679)
Yesterday I went to Too Jays and a lady walked in holding her little dog and then laying him or her on the seat next to her, she was in a booth. I called the manager over and he told me if he would say anything they would sue him bull she should follow the laws I really don't think anything was wrong with her . You can phony papers and say they need the dog for service. I don't have anything against dogs or cats but I don't want them where I go out dinner with my husband ....I will not go back to Too Jays anymore....I know I will get feed back from this post but to tell you the truth I don't give a dame I have my rights also...The village is getting out of hand with their pets I know they love them but think of the people who don't have a pet. Like I always say if the shoe was on the other foot how would you feel.....Even in stores where people buy clothes they put their dogs in the cart where people put their clothes in come on people wake up.....

You don't know if that little dog is trained to detect seizures or some other problem that person might have.

Jayhawk 05-16-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Josie70 (Post 878679)
Yesterday I went to Too Jays and a lady walked in holding her little dog and then laying him or her on the seat next to her, she was in a booth. I called the manager over and he told me if he would say anything they would sue him bull she should follow the laws I really don't think anything was wrong with her . You can phony papers and say they need the dog for service. I don't have anything against dogs or cats but I don't want them where I go out dinner with my husband ....I will not go back to Too Jays anymore....I know I will get feed back from this post but to tell you the truth I don't give a dame I have my rights also...The village is getting out of hand with their pets I know they love them but think of the people who don't have a pet. Like I always say if the shoe was on the other foot how would you feel.....Even in stores where people buy clothes they put their dogs in the cart where people put their clothes in come on people wake up.....

No judgments, just two questions -

1. Are you a retired doctor or medical professional who can judge whether or not this person qualifies for some type of service dog?

2. Would you also never return if, instead of a small lap dog, it was a full size Labrador service dog?

After considering these questions, maybe you will fell different. If not, certainly your right.

Have a great Villages day !!!

:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

maddie101 05-16-2014 11:32 AM

If there wa$'nt an advantage , they would not do it. There are many dollar$ in the pet industry to be made. Dog-Friendly Restaurant Guide - DogFriendly.com
They are not con$idering this just to be nice. Bu$ine$$ is bu$ine$$.

buggyone 05-16-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Josie70 (Post 878679)
Yesterday I went to Too Jays and a lady walked in holding her little dog and then laying him or her on the seat next to her, she was in a booth. I called the manager over and he told me if he would say anything they would sue him bull she should follow the laws I really don't think anything was wrong with her . You can phony papers and say they need the dog for service. I don't have anything against dogs or cats but I don't want them where I go out dinner with my husband ....I will not go back to Too Jays anymore....I know I will get feed back from this post but to tell you the truth I don't give a dame I have my rights also...The village is getting out of hand with their pets I know they love them but think of the people who don't have a pet. Like I always say if the shoe was on the other foot how would you feel.....Even in stores where people buy clothes they put their dogs in the cart where people put their clothes in come on people wake up.....

There was a post earlier where someone said they had about the same encounter at TooJays and the manager asked the person with the dog to leave - and they did. Doesn't sound as if there is a sound policy on the matter.

Anyhow, the manager can ask if it is a service animal and what it does for the person. The manager cannot ask the person what kind of disability they have.

When the manager told you he could be sued if he asked, did YOU get up and leave AND tell the manager he lost you as a customer?

gomoho 05-16-2014 12:34 PM

Yesterday at Publix I saw a couple enter the store with their darling little pooch in the baby seat of the cart. Manager stopped them at the door and advised dogs were not allowed. They commented they had just seen someone the other day in the store with a dog so they thought it was okay. Manager explained some get by us. It was handled well by all parties. I would probably draw the line at bringing a dog to a grocery story, but I'm pretty open to most other situations.

justjim 05-16-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 878707)
There was a post earlier where someone said they had about the same encounter at TooJays and the manager asked the person with the dog to leave - and they did. Doesn't sound as if there is a sound policy on the matter.

Anyhow, the manager can ask if it is a service animal and what it does for the person. The manager cannot ask the person what kind of disability they have.

When the manager told you he could be sued if he asked, did YOU get up and leave AND tell the manager he lost you as a customer?

Probably a different manager on duty at the time. Apparently service dogs don't have to have an identification tag on them. I think they should for the comfort of everybody concerned.

buggyone 05-16-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 878723)
Probably a different manager on duty at the time. Apparently service dogs don't have to have an identification tag on them. I think they should for the comfort of everybody concerned.


As you know, the service dog vest and papers can be bought on the internet for not much money along with "rules" that tell the non-legit users what to say to intimidate restaurant owners.

In my opinion, the only dogs that should be allowed in a restaurant are Seeing Eye Dogs for the blind people.

TVMayor 05-18-2014 12:50 PM

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Report: Pit bull bites waitress at Oviedo Outback

By David Breen, Orlando Sentinel

11:10 a.m. EDT, May 18, 2014

A pit bull bit a waitress Saturday evening at an Outback Steakhouse in Oviedo, WKMG-Channel 6 is reporting.

The waitress was putting a water bowl down for the dog in the restaurant's outdoor dining area when she was bitten. She suffered a flesh wound.

Seminole County Animal Control is expected to quarantine the dog today, WKMG said.
Report: Pit bull bites waitress at Oviedo Outback - Orlando Sentinel

justjim 05-20-2014 01:56 PM

With that breed of dog (pit bull) not too surprised.


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