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stanley 06-16-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1960482)
Understood. But you can't fine them or trespass them from the courses. Wish you could.

If there is a "problem" we call Community Watch and they call the Sheriff. Pedestrians are usually OK but the one's fishing are another story.

VApeople 06-16-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1960493)
Pedestrians are usually OK but the one's fishing are another story.

Pedestrians can be a problem if they steal my golf ball.

One time I hit a ball toward the water but it hit a person fishing and it bounced back into the fairway, so I was pretty happy. The fisherman, not so much.

fishon 06-16-2021 02:42 PM

Selfish people in The Villages??
Say it isn't so!

If we could just get rid of all of the old people, The Villages would be paradise on earth.

bilcon 06-16-2021 02:45 PM

I saw it the other day. Two morons walking along the course, no shirts, just out for a jolly walk while people were teeing off right in their direction. More and more people think they can do whatever they want. Off limits, except for golfers. I asked the golf office why can't put a small sign (course Closed) when the starter or ambassadors leave. You think I asked them to put up a wall around the course. You are absolutely right Marcoguy. I call them the "entitled people". I hope the dog meets Mr. Alligator, Mr Coyote or Mr. Hawk. Case Closed.


"I have never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong".

riley2011 06-16-2021 02:49 PM

Dogs on golf course
 
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Originally Posted by Marcoguy (Post 1960067)
Tonight was the first time I saw someone walking their dog on the golf course. Well it was also in the sand traps, fairways and on the greens. The dog was everywhere. I know for a fact this is not permitted. However, people do whatever they want when the Golf Ambassadors are gone.
I’d like to walk the golf course myself, but I know it isn’t permitted. I guess it will continue until something gets broke or a green gets trashed by a dog.

There really isn’t anything you can do because I’ve tried. I called the villages community security about it but they just tell me it’s not their jurisdiction.
Oh well

Won’t it be great when someone steps in dog crap? That might get someone’s attention.

riley2011 06-16-2021 02:53 PM

Dogs on golf course
 
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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1960519)
I saw it the other day. Two morons walking along the course, no shirts, just out for a jolly walk while people were teeing off right in their direction. More and more people think they can do whatever they want. Off limits, except for golfers. I asked the golf office why can't put a small sign (course Closed) when the starter or ambassadors leave. You think I asked them to put up a wall around the course. You are absolutely right Marcoguy. I call them the "entitled people". I hope the dog meets Mr. Alligator, Mr Coyote or Mr. Hawk. Case Closed.


"I have never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong".

It’s not the dogs fault. He has to go where the owner takes him.

karostay 06-16-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by positiveinlife (Post 1960398)
I understand you must walk your dog. there are hundreds of acres of public space let alone dog parks around. If you choose to use other peoples property , golf courses etc..
then please don't act so offended by someone calling you out for being lazy or just irresponsible...

Don't have a dog sorry
Get your facts straight so you don't sound I won't say

Stu from NYC 06-16-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1960475)
And I only thought that happened in the bleachers at Brownwood :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Asking for a friend, did you really see them at it?

golfing eagles 06-16-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1960549)
Asking for a friend, did you really see them at it?

I think it was before I moved here full time

Bill14564 06-16-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1960519)
I saw it the other day. Two morons walking along the course, no shirts, just out for a jolly walk while people were teeing off right in their direction. More and more people think they can do whatever they want. Off limits, except for golfers. I asked the golf office why can't put a small sign (course Closed) when the starter or ambassadors leave. You think I asked them to put up a wall around the course. You are absolutely right Marcoguy. I call them the "entitled people". I hope the dog meets Mr. Alligator, Mr Coyote or Mr. Hawk. Case Closed.


"I have never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong".

Entitled seems like the appropriate word but.....

Topspinmo 06-16-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 1960388)
Thank God. Hope they got hard time

Yep, sure the sheriff going stop actual criminal investigation and yell “ squad up. “ we have a criminal on a golf course”
All available officer ASAP.:duck:

Pairadocs 06-16-2021 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1960117)
Yes welcome to the "once friendly villages" sorry you received such negative comments from some Those must be the folk who break the rules. Wait until someone's golf ball lands in a "poo heap" we will never hear the last of it.

Not much difference to those dog owners who open the gate to the tennis/pb courts and let their dogs run around , so they dont have to chase them around. No they dont pick up after their dogs either. As another comment say wait until the snowbirds come, who treat the villages like a holiday camp.

One golfer suggesting to an Ambassador that the courses should be closed until "they get here" so they are in good condition. Quite the reverse I think.

You've summed it up quite well, amazing how things have changed over the years, Villages legally is on thin ground so to speak, in trying to enforce anything, but the lack of caring on the part of some residents, some visitors and way too many dog owners and golfers is stunning at times. Just the smell from the number of people who will take their dogs anywhere (but their own yard) to "deposit" makes one wonder about their thinking process ? Same with "golfers" who drive OVER the edges of traps and greens with gas and electric carts ! Just a sad comment on society that so many (not all of course) have no respect for self, others, the amenities, or their community ! Way to the world I guess.

Pairadocs 06-16-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1960470)
It's up to each course and their employees to enforce the rules. At the course I work at we are instructed to enforce them, and I, we do, as much as we can during our shifts. It's pretty safe to say that's policy across the board.

I believe you of course, and many other employees too I am sure, but WHY would one community have so many different sets of directives for EACH course ? You are correct I know, on one course when I passed an "ambassador" on my way to the next hole, I mentioned (NOT angry, not wanted some incident, etc.) with a light tone and smile: "you might want to keep an eye on the folks behind us, they have no handicap tag, but seem to do whatever they wish with their cart, including driving ONTO the apron, BETWEEN the lip of a trap and the GREEN, and even driving on area BETWEEN the various TEES ! ! Ambassador said: " I hear ya", and shook head slightly, " but we're told that's why we are ambassadors, not marshals, we are told not to reprimand residents or guests, it makes the place seem unfriendly I guess". I shrugged and just said, "yeah, I guess, but seems like that kind of attitude (I made it clear NOT HIS attitude, just in general) can really get costly ! ? How about the people who grind out cigarettes on the greens.... that seems like a "nothing burger" thing here too ? Go figure....

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmarr1 (Post 1960150)
Relax .. walking the golf course is safer then the streets after dark .. do find a lot of stray golf balls..

I’ll gladly walk the golf courses if permitted. My neighbors told me it was a no no.
BTW, I really appreciate your comment. Seriously, this has been very informative.

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1960605)
Yep, sure the sheriff going stop actual criminal investigation and yell “ squad up. “ we have a criminal on a golf course”
All available officer ASAP.:duck:

Didn’t realize the community security were actual Police. Thanks for the info.

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1960410)
You sound responsible. I do think they should use a lot of common sense when applying rules.

Ok let’s change the rule that doesn’t allow it. Simple.

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 1960273)
I really appreciate all the snotty, snide comments. It tells me who the people who post here really are. This not obeying the rules thing has gone too far. Take a photo next time and send it to the golf course you are on. It is private property and that is trespassing. As far as I see, the comments about snowbirds, the bad behavior and lousy park, the speeding of golf carts, etc. seems to exist here when the snowbirds are not here. Your assumptions about character and behavior are poorly placed and, I can only assume, poorly placed in all aspects of your life.

Thank you so Much for your comments! I am learning so much about the Villages now.

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1960169)
IF The Villages thought this was a serious problem, THEY would do something about it. Apparently, they do not see it as an issue serious enough to take action. Problem solved!

So that means even if there is a rule about something, you don’t have to observe the rule until the Villages sees it as a problem right? I am not being snarky, I truly want to get along and understand how things work here. Thank you so much for your comments. They are appreciated.

Papa_lecki 06-16-2021 06:23 PM

Is this thread still going one. Can we please have a dog poop thread?

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1960172)
Solved, until some idiot get hit by a golf ball, or becomes Purina gator chow after dark. While I don't share the OPs enthusiasm for this problem, the fact remains that these people ARE trespassing.

So why is it that some of the same people who don't think blatant trespassing is a big deal get their undies in a bunch over a golf cart going 20.1 mph or junk mail being tossed in the postal station trash cans?

Oh, you mean you can’t throw junk mail trash cans at the postal stations? Wow, I didn’t know that. Guess I am busted.

Thank you for your comments. They help me understand!

Marcoguy 06-16-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1960073)
yawn

Hey, I guess this wasn’t such a yawn LMAO!!!!!

JMintzer 06-16-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1960405)
I work on a champ course and kick off more "trespasser's" during the winter months. Could be coincidence. :ohdear:

Well, the total population swells by close to 50% during the snowbird season, so there's that...

stanley 06-16-2021 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1960647)
Well, the total population swells by close to 50% during the snowbird season, so there's that...

Yep...it's not rocket science

RosemarySoso 06-16-2021 08:20 PM

You mean their choice?

photo1902 06-16-2021 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1960640)
Is this thread still going one. Can we please have a dog poop thread?

Agreed. It’s such a non-issue.

ryoungs 06-16-2021 09:07 PM

As a high school teacher, I coached cross country teams for many years. This was in Illinois. We sometimes ran on our local golf course. I figured the same thing was allowed here in The Villages -- but no, the first time I tried to jog on the golf course across the street from my home here, I got run off pronto by a player. It was almost dark, he was the last player of the day, and I was in no way interfering with his game. I guess that's just the way geezers get sometimes. But, you know, if that's the way it is done here, then I figure I need to follow the same rules. I do hate jogging on the streets though. LOL I have no advice on dogs, other than the owner should have their pet under control at all times. If dog walkers are not allowed on the golf courses, than dogs should not be there either.

Two Bills 06-17-2021 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1960549)
Asking for a friend, did you really see them at it?

Pretty sure we did as we drove past.
If they wern't, the lady in question was cleaning the cart windshield with her feet!:shocked:

b0bd0herty 06-17-2021 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcoguy (Post 1960067)
Tonight was the first time I saw someone walking their dog on the golf course. Well it was also in the sand traps, fairways and on the greens. The dog was everywhere. I know for a fact this is not permitted. However, people do whatever they want when the Golf Ambassadors are gone.
I’d like to walk the golf course myself, but I know it isn’t permitted. I guess it will continue until something gets broke or a green gets trashed by a dog.

There really isn’t anything you can do because I’ve tried. I called the villages community security about it but they just tell me it’s not their jurisdiction.
Oh well

Don't know of a Villages Community "Security." There is a Community Watch though and that is what they do: watch and report. They have no enforcement authority simply report. If it's something serious, I believe someone calls local law enforcement.

golfing eagles 06-17-2021 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 1960676)
As a high school teacher, I coached cross country teams for many years. This was in Illinois. We sometimes ran on our local golf course. I figured the same thing was allowed here in The Villages -- but no, the first time I tried to jog on the golf course across the street from my home here, I got run off pronto by a player. It was almost dark, he was the last player of the day, and I was in no way interfering with his game. I guess that's just the way geezers get sometimes. But, you know, if that's the way it is done here, then I figure I need to follow the same rules. I do hate jogging on the streets though. LOL I have no advice on dogs, other than the owner should have their pet under control at all times. If dog walkers are not allowed on the golf courses, than dogs should not be there either.

You mean expecting people to abide by the rules?????

karostay 06-17-2021 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1960702)
You mean expecting people to abide by the rules?????

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

DaleDivine 06-17-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1960431)
They need to rename this forum, The Complainer's Page. There's more complaining going on than there are solutions, or anything else.

I imagine racoons, gators, squirrels, rabbits... and maybe even deer use the golf course at night.

Or like Craigslist Page called RANTS AND RAVES...
No deer but wild boar and bear. And those mean Sandhill Cranes that walk through the traps and don't rake afterwards.
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

DaleDivine 06-17-2021 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1960555)
I think it was before I moved here full time

That was on the stage at Sumter Landing.
:a040::MOJE_whot::1rotfl:

JMintzer 06-17-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1960688)
Pretty sure we did as we drove past.
If they wern't, the lady in question was cleaning the cart windshield with her feet!:shocked:

https://i.imgur.com/7XBViMd.jpg?fb

bilcon 06-17-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1960344)
Yes, absolutely, you should not cross on someone else's property, I agree.
The golfers choose to get up early, drag their clubs,wear their cleats and parade all over the course...daily. why are people so upset if a person walks a paved path 12 hrs later???? (let's remove the dog from this equation). Its truly doing the very same thing,, only on a different schedule....and we don't make divets. Lol. We all equally pay.

Because those of us who live on the golf course don't want people trespassing behind our homes. We don't know who you are and for all we know you could be there other reasons. Stay Off the golf course unless you are playing. There are enough places to walk without trespassing.

bilcon 06-17-2021 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ryoungs (Post 1960676)
As a high school teacher, I coached cross country teams for many years. This was in Illinois. We sometimes ran on our local golf course. I figured the same thing was allowed here in The Villages -- but no, the first time I tried to jog on the golf course across the street from my home here, I got run off pronto by a player. It was almost dark, he was the last player of the day, and I was in no way interfering with his game. I guess that's just the way geezers get sometimes. But, you know, if that's the way it is done here, then I figure I need to follow the same rules. I do hate jogging on the streets though. LOL I have no advice on dogs, other than the owner should have their pet under control at all times. If dog walkers are not allowed on the golf courses, than dogs should not be there either.

Did you also teach your students to trespassing on private property? Great Role Model.

Bill14564 06-17-2021 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1960830)
Because those of us who live on the golf course don't want people trespassing behind our homes. We don't know who you are and for all we know you could be there other reasons. Stay Off the golf course unless you are playing. There are enough places to walk without trespassing.

You are concerned with someone's identification and purpose when they walk on a concrete path behind your home but you don't have the same questions when they walk on a concrete or asphalt path in front of your home?

stanley 06-17-2021 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1960847)
You are concerned with someone's identification and purpose when they walk on a concrete path behind your home but you don't have the same questions when they walk on a concrete or asphalt path in front of your home?

The concrete and asphalt in "front" of one's home is usually "public" property. Those "concrete paths" behind ones home on the golf course are "private property". Pretty simple really. What's so hard to understand?

Bill14564 06-17-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bilcon (Post 1960832)
Did you also teach your students to trespassing on private property? Great Role Model.

If it is owned by the Villages and maintained by our amenity fee then is it really private property?

Yes, I understand that it is possible to "trespass" on public land. Yes, I understand that there are rules though I can't seem to find the rules regarding the golf cart paths. But I also understand how easy it is to use a phrase such as, "trespassing on private property," without actually knowing if it is private property or trespassing.

Bill14564 06-17-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1960853)
The concrete and asphalt in "front" of one's home is usually "public" property. Those "concrete paths" behind ones home on the golf course is "private property". Pretty simple really. What's so hard to understand?

Not hard to understand at all. Neither is my question or the statement in the post I was replying to.

stanley 06-17-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1960855)
If it is owned by the Villages and maintained by our amenity fee then is it really private property?

Yes, I understand that it is possible to "trespass" on public land. Yes, I understand that there are rules though I can't seem to find the rules regarding the golf cart paths. But I also understand how easy it is to use a phrase such as, "trespassing on private property," without actually knowing if it is private property or trespassing.

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1960856)
Not hard to understand at all. Neither is my question or the statement in the post I was replying to.

The Villages Golf Course Administration is just a phone call away, "maybe" they can explain it for you.

Call Golf And Tennis Administration at 352-753-3396 for more information on membership enhancements or other golf/tennis issues.


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