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cappyjon, It is unfortunate that you and your wife have had to encounter such rude, aggressive and potentially dangerous behavior, especially from someone who lives on your street. Hopefully a visit from the police will convince your neighbor to adjust her attitude.
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If memory serves me, you have had prior incidents or an incident with road rage or something of that nature. Also I believe you confronted the other person before? Be careful. You don't now who may be packing a hog leg. |
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I'll take my chances with those who may be "packing a hog leg." I refuse to be bullied and simply ignoring the rude behavior guarentees it continues. IMHO it's time that people stand up to these rude bullies. That being said, in the latest incident the woman threatenend my wife and I thought it best that she contact the police. |
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You've hit on one of the real issues with street legal carts. If your top speed is 26 mph what are you doing on roads with 35 mph speed limits other than holding up traffic and causing peope to unnecesarily change lanes simply because you are holding up the normal flow of traffic. Can see where this would be very irritating especially when traffic is heavy. |
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What I am doing on the road is what I am legally entitled to do. The law says LSVs are allowed on streets with speed limits up to 35 mph. I encounter street legal carts on TV's roads EVERYDAY when I am driving my car, sometimes they slow me down, but I've NEVER found it "very irritating." NEVER. |
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What is wrong with a "street legal" doing 25 mph on a 35 mph road? Can I do 25mph in my car? I think I will start driving 25 mph on all 35 mph roads. I like gettin "the finger", it makes me feel like they are telling me I am "# one"! Lets not forget all the regular Golf carts going 25-30 mph on the paths that cut me off and give me the finger for going 19 mph. TV is still a very friendly Place until someone gets behind the "Wheel":mad:
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I feel your pain, Cappy. We've not been here that long and have seen/avoided some really rude and silly behavior. But, having said that, I still don't regret my choice to relocate to TV. No place is perfect and that includes TV. I choose to believe that the rude and inconsiderate are vastly outnumbered by the friendly and courteous!
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Sorry for your experience; but I’m afraid it may not be uncommon anymore.
If the speed limit is 35 and I’m going 25, the courteous thing to do is to pull over (when safe to do so) and let any backed up traffic pass – which is what I do. But 35 is the speed “limit”. If memory serves me correctly, there are some highways that have minimum speed limits, but not inside TV. As the seasonal and year round population increases, maybe a reminder campaign to “share the road” or something similar would be a good idea. I often am slightly amused when a hurried driver rips around me and we both end up at the next traffic light together. Maybe he/she eventually gets to their destination a few minutes (and, literally, on short trips, it is just minutes) earlier than they would have had they been a little less stressed; I wonder if they ever think that these aggressive driving attitudes increases the risk of the tiny mistake that might take the life of a cyclist, a golf cart occupant, the occupant of another auto, themselves or their passenger. We should become wiser with age; slow down out there – aggressive driving is dangerous on so many levels. |
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I vote for agreeing there is a minority of inconsiderate drivers here in TV (like every where else).....the other 90+++% are enjoying being here.
Just know that you live in an aging community and you just have to resign yourself to defensive driving...... I do not have any sympathy for those who choose to drive a golf cart in competition with automobiles and trucks. On so many levels that just does not make sense....in addition to the cost.....must be saving some seconds or even minutes matter that much to some retirees with plenty of time to ....RELAX. To each his own however and what ever.... btk |
[QUOTE=dalecrenshaw;539654]These people, and people like this, are going to ruin it for the rest of us law abiding, safe drivers, who are courteous to the rest of the people around us. It is a privilege to be able to drive our golf cart (on legal roads & pathways) and GEM Cars on the streets in the Villages. Where else, in the rest of the world can you do this. If we have enough incidents like this, with rude & dangerous jerks, they will take away our privileges. It is already hard to get golf cart insurance (especially for the snow birds) and the insurance will continue to go up with behavior like this. I just hope that the people in charge don't get to the point that they have had enough of stuff like this, and take away our privilege to drive the golf carts.[/QUOT
The same thing happened to us when we first came down here a car cut us off and she gave us the finger....There are alot of peoploe down here that are not very friendly you pick and choose your friends,and then get rid of the ones that you don't want.....Thank god the both of you were not hurt.....:wave: |
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Please all remember this is a community made up of over 90,000 people, without its own police force and a very limited amount of crime. Mostly
over indulgence as the cause. Point me to another city of this size that is better than The Villages for this social behavior and hardley any crime and I will sell and move there. Also remember there are hundreds of people that get togehter to hear music every night and they do it with class and peace. So there is one alleged "nut" that is anti social and uses bad behavior as a way to get attention or get rid of his/her anger. That is pretty darn good for a community as popluated as The Villages. Count yourself lucky that you found and moved to The Villages. Pray for the poor unfortunate person that threatens someone. This is a retirement community..If you are in a hurry then for gods sake move to NY City, Chicago or Miami and come back when you can respect others.:wave: |
Cappy: I really can't add anything to the posts as they pretty much say everything. One point, should you or any of us, run into road rage it is best to report it immediately as it is happening. The police can't do much except talk to the person or persons later. I am interested to see if you get any response at all from the Sheriff's Department.
It certainly sounds like the lady involved has a mental/behavior problem. There can be many causes for behavior like you described. As you indicated, she did not respond rationally when your wife attempted an "adult discussion" of the incident. Street Legals, trucks, cars, scooters/motorcycles, bicycles, golf carts, runners and walkers can co-exist in TV but it takes some patience on all our parts. I don't know if it can be changed but it might help if they would change the speed limit on Street Legals to 30 or 35 miles per hour. If I had one, I think that I would contact my State Legislators regarding the possibility. Anyway, lets all be careful out there. |
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Some posters have so many issues and confrontations. My wife and I Have owned in TV for 2 yrs and relocated here a year ago. We have had one or two head shaking episodes, but certainly no more than when we were living in the Balt/Wash area. What are we missing?? We have found TV on the most part to be very friendly.
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My wife doing home health in the villages and sees this happen all the time.People are in a hurry and going 10 under bothers them.Even at this time of year see back ups caused by slower moving vehicles.It makes it unsafe.I would never own one its only a matter of time before someone gets hurt.Either carts need more speed or limits lowered.Your always going to have bad auto drivers why put yourself in harm.
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My husband and I were in our street legal cart when we first moved here a few years ago and encountered a woman yelling at us that we are not allowed on the road she was so mad at us it looked liked she wanted to run us off the road because she kept looking at the side of our cart and getting closer. This was on buena vista coming back from the Miona Rec Center. It was scary and she really scary. She was driving a large sliver car could this be the same person?
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With all that has been said, I'd just like to add a note on the confrontation issue.
Keep in mind that Florida does have the "stand your ground" law. While you may be very polite in your confrontation with the rude offender, they may view your confrontation as threatening. There are nut cases everywhere, and one might (I saw might) even be a neighbor. |
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There are several issues here. One is the prudence of driving a street legal on a road with a 35 MPH limit. As a street legal owner myself, I would never do it and shake my head in wonderment about why anyone would do so.
Of course the real issue here is one of "friendliness" versus road rage and clearly those who exhibit such rage are in the wrong. A third issue is captured in the title, concerning the question of this being the "friendliest hometown". For it to not be the friendliest, one would have to point to other communities where driving 10 mph under the limit in a golf cart (when there are designated golf cart lanes/paths available) is met with a friendly wave and a smile by 100 percent of the residents. I dare say that if you were to do this in any community in the country you would find at least a few who would give you the one-finger solute or worse. |
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Wow that's awful. It should not be that way. Unfortunately the more crowded we get here, the more likely we are to run into alot of rude people. sort of takes away from the "friendliest hometown atsmophere" I remember yrs ago we all waved to each other while driving in our golf carts. Don't see that anymore. sometimes TOO many people does not make for a great community. Your entitled to drive on road if your street legal. And the neighbor isn't very nice at all to have treated you that way. sorry you had to experience this.
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WOW!!! All of this for a couple of summer time incidents with probably permanent residents. If you think it's bad now just wait several months for all of the snowflakes, renters and other visitors to descend upon us with their attitudes and fury. :22yikes:
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Some of the posts here speak as if TV is the only place where road rage exists. And thus we become the Unfriendly hometown.
I challenge anyone to say they never saw idiots driving cars/carts/bicycles/scooters back in there hometowns in a dangerous way. Folks its everywhere. And to say one is considering moving because somebody cut you off at the pass is really sad. |
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1st You seem to be a butt-head magnet
2nd You found another 1 percenter. My math indicates in a community of 90000 there will be about 900 1 percenters. 3rd There are only 898 more people like her in TV. Happy hunting!:police: |
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With that being said, I break the law every day on the highway by driving in excess of 80 MPH and I do get irritated by slower drivers if they are in the fast lane. I just go around them and be on my way. If you can go around a slower vehicle on the highway, why not a golf cart or LSV in The Villages? And please don't point out that some roads in The Villages aren't 2 lanes. The original post in this thread pointed out that they do not drive their LSV on main roads without 2 lanes. If you are in a car and a golf cart or LSV is slowing you down, just take the time to go around them safely. We are all supposed to be mature adults. There is no need for vigilantism or proving to someone else that you don't like a certain law. If you feel that strongly about the law, then go to the state legislature and try to get the law changed. FYI the law on LSVs or NEVs are across the country and are legislated on a state by state basis. Good luck. |
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My daddy used to say that there are two kinds of drivers. The ones that drive slower than him were idiots and the ones that drive faster than him were maniacs. Before anyone asks which one I am, I'm both at one time or another.
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