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golfing eagles 05-19-2021 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1946851)
A roundabout is nothing but a traffic light replacement. Treat it the same as the light at Morse and 466a. Always yield if someone IN EITHER LANE is in the circle. If you want to go right enter in the right lane. If you want to turn left enter in the left lane. If you want to go straight thru, either lane work. Same as a traffic light. So simple even an idiot should be able to do it.


Look at the previous 159 posts and see if you can come up with an idiot percentage!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Malsua 05-19-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1946852)
Our roundabouts are two three lanes, and in some cases flowing left and right, (Hemel Hemstead) yet we have no problems negotiating them 'cos we 'follow the science!!':icon_wink:

The really complicated ones have lights. I know the one outside of the Copthorne Hotel where we have stayed frequently is, to put it mildly, insane. I will drive two miles out of my way to avoid it. That particular one is a circle pierced by four lanes and has 2-3 lanes circling in a whirly gig of chaotic motion. It's not because I can't figure it out, I have actually gone on it a bunch of times, it's because I'm usually jet lagged and now I'm on the opposite side of the road. I can just go the opposite way and not have to deal with trying to re-wire my brain to go the other way. It really messes up your instincts and takes a day or two and a good night sleep to get it sorted.

JMintzer 05-19-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1946853)
Look at the previous 159 posts and see if you can come up with an idiot percentage!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I'm estimating a solid 50%... (and I'm being generous...)

CFrance 05-19-2021 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1945801)
No, NO, NO!!!!

NEVER take first exit from left lane. NEVER!!!. First exit is NOT an "option"

Right(outer) lane is for 1st and 2nd exits
Left(inner) lane is for 2nd and 3rd exits.

That is why you should NEVER enter a RB with traffic in EITHER lane.

Signals are nice, but I don't trust anyone with their signal on, anywhere. And for the driver who is stupid enough to come right along side you in a RB, they can't see them anyway.

Everyone should print this out and tape it to their sun visor. It's the clearest, most correct explanation of roundabout rules. And the part about yielding to both lanes is most important, and the one that people ignore the most.

Two Bills 05-19-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1946885)
The really complicated ones have lights. I know the one outside of the Copthorne Hotel where we have stayed frequently is, to put it mildly, insane. I will drive two miles out of my way to avoid it. That particular one is a circle pierced by four lanes and has 2-3 lanes circling in a whirly gig of chaotic motion. It's not because I can't figure it out, I have actually gone on it a bunch of times, it's because I'm usually jet lagged and now I'm on the opposite side of the road. I can just go the opposite way and not have to deal with trying to re-wire my brain to go the other way. It really messes up your instincts and takes a day or two and a good night sleep to get it sorted.

Actually the Highway dept. are putting traffic lights on many roundabouts these days.
Really frustrating to sit and wait for green when the old system worked perfectly well.
Still, some jobsworth has earned an 'innovation' bonus!
PS. Do you work for Mars? That's the only good thing to come out of Slough apart from the A4!

CFrance 05-19-2021 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by akerwin1909 (Post 1945811)
Yep, I was here 18 days and didn’t know that others didn’t know how to drive in the roundabout. I was hit on right side-$6k in damages that my insurance had to pay. Then the woman had the nerve to say it was my fault. Incredible...

I'm interested to know... who got ticketed? It should have been her, but you never know these days. Some sheriff's officers have given out incorrect information in the past.

CFrance 05-19-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1946253)
10000+ views so far. Roundabouts never seem to loose the luster no matter how many "Sumter County Sherriff" pamphlets are published. No problem - don't argue here - argue your standpoint to the Sherriff Deputy that hands you the traffic violation. I'm too lazy tonight to research but my guess is dog poop is still the number one thread.

It's a tossup. People are anal about roundabouts and dog poop.
(See what I did there?)

CFrance 05-19-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1946503)
It's Bostonian's.

It's Bostonians.

Lottoguy 05-19-2021 08:40 AM

Then that means if you wanted a SOLID white line in that spot then all the cars coming from the far right road (St. Charles) can only go right all the time.

Psacc0 05-19-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1945733)
Ah okay I spaced out on that first exit, it came up basically right after you entered.

This is the hard part though: what would you have done if the white car had come in from that spot, and was planning on going 2 exits away (one further than you)? He'd still be where he was, and you'd still be where you were, and he'd have the right to continue in that lane, and you'd still have the right to exit from your lane.

That's WHY these traffic circles are so harrowing. Because it really doesn't matter what lane you are "supposed" to be in. If I came in from the exit before yours, and I came in on the inner lane, and I'm taking my second exit...and you show up in the outer lane and you're taking YOUR second exit - we're both doing what we are allowed to do. Except - there's that risk that I'm going to try and take that exit I'm allowed to take, while you're still heading toward the exit you're allowed take - and there might just be a potential for a crash unless everyone is going at exactly the right speed, at exactly the right distance from each other, in exactly the right order.

If the white car was entering from the right (3 o’clock) you’re correct, he can go straight. However, he cannot enter while the dash cam car is coming. All cars in the roundabout (both lanes) have the right of way. Once no one is coming, he can enter the roundabout and go on across to the far exit (9 o’clock).

DavidCovid 05-19-2021 09:05 AM

In my opinion, in order to minimize a crash within the roundabout it may be beneficial for the traffic engineers to draw on the pavement, on each lane at the moment a vehicle enters the roundabout and mark the path each lane can travel. Example - If a vehicle enters the roundabout from the right lane, the line will follow either a direct straight path or the ability to turn right.

Bill14564 05-19-2021 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidCovid (Post 1947029)
In my opinion, in order to minimize a crash within the roundabout it may be beneficial for the traffic engineers to draw on the pavement, on each lane at the moment a vehicle enters the roundabout and mark the path each lane can travel. Example - If a vehicle enters the roundabout from the right lane, the line will follow either a direct straight path or the ability to turn right.

Sort of like the markings on the green signs posted at the entry to each roundabout in the Villages?

rustyp 05-19-2021 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1945535)
Before too many feet are inserted into mouths study this. I would have published the entire pamphlet but the majority wouldn't read it anyway.

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:popcorn:

Remember way back to post #13 ?

Malsua 05-19-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1946950)
Actually the Highway dept. are putting traffic lights on many roundabouts these days.
Really frustrating to sit and wait for green when the old system worked perfectly well.
Still, some jobsworth has earned an 'innovation' bonus!
PS. Do you work for Mars? That's the only good thing to come out of Slough apart from the A4!

It's been a couple years since I've been to the facility in Slough, but no, it's not Mars. That building shut down as a production facility and is just a sales office now so I probably will have no reason to go back. Our main EU production facility is in Brebach Germany, near Saarbrucken. We have offices all over the world though and probably 6 in Germany alone.

I do love driving on the Autobahn. Had this Fiesta ST rental a couple years ago. This is a Fiesta body with a rally suspension and a real motor with around 210hp. It does indeed hit the limiter at 223kph.

Number 10 GI 05-19-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1946838)
Funny, but I have lived in NJ for the past 25 years and driven in Europe quite a lot over the last 15. I can think of only one circle anywhere near me that has two lanes. It also has a stop light. The circle is intersection is 287/202/206 in Somerville. It's also only kinda 2 lanes. At one spot it drops to one lane, so if you're in the wrong one, you have to merge out.

I also have gone through probably 100 circles around SW Germany where we have a facility so I get there frequently. All of them are single lane. There are a couple near our England facility in Slough that typically have 4-6 cars in the roundabout continuously all day. It is quite busy. I don't see all these massive queues you folks keep talking about. Single lane.

Was driving in Barcelona, Spain a number of years ago, there were a few round abouts that had 4 lanes.

CFrance 05-19-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1947073)
Was driving in Barcelona, Spain a number of years ago, there were a few round abouts that had 4 lanes.

The one around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris has 7 lanes and 12 entrances. And traffic entering it have the right-of-way.

The Craziest Roundabout in Europe - Arc de Triomphe in Paris - YouTube

Two Bills 05-19-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1947091)
The one around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris has 7 lanes and 12 entrances. And traffic entering it have the right-of-way.

The Craziest Roundabout in Europe - Arc de Triomphe in Paris - YouTube

The amazing thiing is it works, and during rush hour, is basically controlled by pedestrians using the pedestrian crossings in the side streets

nn0wheremann 05-19-2021 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1945438)
What you see here happens constantly. When will people finally learn the correct way in a roundabout?

Another Idiot Driver In The Villages - YouTube

You are the idiot. He was in the roundabout before you so he had right of way. You further violated when you attempted to pass him in the roundabout. You get the roundabout Bozo Of The Week award. Just be glad you did not try that stuff in Chicago.

golfing eagles 05-19-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 1947161)
You are the idiot. He was in the roundabout before you so he had right of way. You further violated when you attempted to pass him in the roundabout. You get the roundabout Bozo Of The Week award. Just be glad you did not try that stuff in Chicago.

That nonsense wins today's official:

Two Bills 05-19-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 1947161)
You are the idiot. He was in the roundabout before you so he had right of way. You further violated when you attempted to pass him in the roundabout. You get the roundabout Bozo Of The Week award. Just be glad you did not try that stuff in Chicago.

:ohdear:

hal195z 05-20-2021 07:28 PM

If you are in the right lane when entering a traffic circle you may exit at the first or second option. If you are in the left lane you may exit at the second or third exit or continue to the fourth exit thus making a U-turn and going back the way you came. Using your turn signal when exiting a traffic circle is a very good idea but is not a law here in Florida. Look out!!!


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