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Bill-n-Brillo 02-07-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 449936)
Bill, please fire up the popper!
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Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 449960)
........ As Sgt. Estaurhaus said: "Let's be careful out there".

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RichieLion 02-07-2012 12:37 PM

It really really bothers me that so many want more interference in their daily lives, as if we don't have enough.

"Please Big Brother, save us from ourselves"..........Bah!!

ajdeck 02-07-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 449759)
My understanding is that carts are allowed on streets in TV because of a special waiver/exemption in the vehicle code passed by the legislature. As mentioned above, previously carts were only allowed in daylight hours. If the legislature can allow carts on streets, it can also ban them. All it would take is for someone to decide to sue declaring that the state/county/locality created an unsafe situation that resulted in injury (the Morse bridge crossing) and our use of carts could be examined and revoked. Think of the buffalo situation.

I would expect the political clout of the Morse's and the importance of TV to Sumter county would prevent that, but you just don't know.

Bottom line is to be careful out there with carts. They're not toys. And for those who get a thrill from their 35 mph carts, you just might kill the golden goose.


That's where I think TV has gotten caried away - street legal carts.

It should be restricted to low mph carts and on carts paths or trails/streets at set a side for them. If you need to go that fast then what are you doing in retirement? Also, if you need to go that fast best take your car, it goes even faster.

rubicon 02-07-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 449602)
Now with accident numbers being collected and maybe or maybe not golf cart accidents are on the rise. Will golf carts always be allowed on TV streets and paths?

Posh08....By the time they collect sufficient data to make a reliabe and supportable claim most of us will be with our ancestors. That is my way of saying compiling such stats for cart use is just plain silly.;albeit it may help solidify that multi-modal paths were not the brightest creation.

My guess is that the majority of people having problems with driving their carts are the same people who are having trouble driving their cars.

paulandjean 02-07-2012 03:53 PM

Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

Villages PL 02-07-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 449642)
You are so right, any driver of a golf cart needs to be licensed to drive them. And this includes people renting.

One of the big attractions that brings many people to the villages is the right to drive a golf cart when they can no longer drive a car. That's partly what a golf cart community is all about; it's not just about golfing.

I knew a woman who came here from New York City and had never driven a car and probably couldn't afford one. So she bought a golf cart. Granted, she was a terrible driver and eventually side swiped a car. :) But not everyone is going to do that and there is a big demand for this lifestyle.

I own a car and have never owned a golf cart. But I would think twice about requiring golf cart drivers to be licensed. We are all getting older and may need to use a golf cart in the future, when we no longer qualify for a driver's license.

In the mean time, be careful. When you see a golf cart, don't assume it will stop at stop signs and don't assume it will not run you over as you go for your walk. :duck:

eweissenbach 02-07-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 450094)
Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

YOU have to be kidding. You really think people would not benefit from knowing how to handle situations that are particular to golf carts, golf cart paths, merging, where to exit, how to handle tunnels, who has right-of-way, what streets and areas are off limits, among others? I think most people can learn these things relatively quickly, but would save a lot of the learning curve, and possible problems, by taking a quick online course and exam. Maybe I'm the only one but I would have been happy to have some instruction on the rules and particular traffic flow of TV prior to coming here. I was a driver education instructor for many years, so maybe I am more sensitive to the situation than others.

rubicon 02-07-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 450094)
Study the rules of the road. You have to be kidding, Golf cart instruction,here it is. key on,gas,brake, lights, turn signal, forward and reverse. stop and go. What in the world do we need instruction for. I would feel insulted to take a test to drive a golf cart. Money maker is the only reason they would think of license for carts. Do not give them any ideas.

pauland jean....whoooa! key, gas, brake forward reverse you are going too fast for me :MOJE_whot:

CarGuys 02-07-2012 07:43 PM

Agree
 
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Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 449627)
The carts don't need to be banned, but the drivers of carts need to be licensed, just like for autos. Seems that not one cart driver knows what STOP means or when or where you should just stop, like never stop in the lanes of travel, especially on a curve. Ban some drivers, its not the carts fault.

As you may know there is a cure for ignorance, but stupid has not cure.

It's like folks have been forced to obey vehicle traffic laws and then get a cart and it all goes to Heck! Still rules of the road for common sense safety!

Ignorance can be fixed with education but stupidity takes great salesmanship

Skybo 02-07-2012 07:54 PM

I don’t discount the number of accidents caused by bad golf cart drivers, but I think the most prevalent and dangerous problems that cart drivers face are the speeding and inattentive vehicle drivers that we share the roads with.

And from what I’ve seen, contractors and delivery drivers are the absolute worst offenders. Every single day, while driving down St. Charles I see contractor trucks pulling trailers or large delivery trucks going 10 or 15 mph over the speed limit. When they pass carts travelling in the cart lane they either blast by them within a foot or two or else they cross over the center line. They do this regardless of oncoming vehicle traffic, which results in the oncoming vehicles swerving into the cart lane on their side of the road. It’s just human nature and instinct to pull to the right when you suddenly see an oncoming vehicle in your lane, and one of these days there is going to be a golf cart there when it happens.

I frequently see contractor and delivery trucks, as well as personal cars, roll through stop signs and into the cart lane before they even start to look to the left. Those folks are usually talking on a cell phone. And I’ve almost been sucked out of the cart lane by large speeding trucks. Southern Lifestyle Furniture delivery drivers are especially bad about that (speeding on St. Charles). I can’t wait until all of the construction and landscaping is finished in the Tamarind Grove area. I just hope that the residents of TG, St. James and the other Villages along St Charles live that long. We’ve already had one cart driver fatality caused by a landscaping vehicle.

Having said all that, I agree that some kind of mandatory golf cart safety briefing would be a good idea. It may be easy to drive a cart, but it’s also pretty easy to turn them over, which new cart drivers may not realize. More than anything, there are a lot of defensive driving tactics specific to driving a cart in TV which would greatly benefit anyone who hasn’t already learned them the hard way.

Mikeod 02-07-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 450198)
Having said all that, I agree that some kind of mandatory golf cart safety briefing would be a good idea. It may be easy to drive a cart, but it’s also pretty easy to turn them over, which new cart drivers may not realize. More than anything, there are a lot of defensive driving tactics specific to driving a cart in TV which would greatly benefit anyone who hasn’t already learned them the hard way.

I don't disagree about trucks and cars intruding on carts, but I also see carts that don't seem to be able to stay in their dedicated lane, drifting over the line and back. And those drivers who can't seem to keep their knees and legs inside the cart. Add them together and you get a dangerous interaction between body parts and cars. And that may be a reason cars and trucks cross the double yellow when passing a cart.

Since TV is designed as a golf cart community, it would be advantageous for there to be some information regarding cart rules of the road presented to new owners of both new and resale homes. I know there are plenty who will scoff at the idea, "I've driven golf carts before. I know how to do it." But I'll bet they haven't driven golf carts sharing the road with large trucks and cars. And driving a cart at 20 mph is different from the 10-15 on a golf course. A golf course is different from what we have here.

Skybo 02-07-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 450210)
I don't disagree about trucks and cars intruding on carts, but I also see carts that don't seem to be able to stay in their dedicated lane, drifting over the line and back. And those drivers who can't seem to keep their knees and legs inside the cart. Add them together and you get a dangerous interaction between body parts and cars. And that may be a reason cars and trucks cross the double yellow when passing a cart.

Since TV is designed as a golf cart community, it would be advantageous for there to be some information regarding cart rules of the road presented to new owners of both new and resale homes. I know there are plenty who will scoff at the idea, "I've driven golf carts before. I know how to do it." But I'll bet they haven't driven golf carts sharing the road with large trucks and cars. And driving a cart at 20 mph is different from the 10-15 on a golf course. A golf course is different from what we have here.

Yep, I completely agree!!

billethkid 02-07-2012 10:09 PM

studying the rules, taking and passing the driver's test, registering the vehicle and learning the laws for vehicle ownership......all of what has been proposed for golf carts already exists for the motor vehicles on our streets called CARS and it certainly has had no effect on the safety, accident rates, carelessness, etc.....as was said earlier in the thread it ain't the vehicles it is the nuts behind the wheel.

I always maintain TV is FL friendliest hometown....unless they are behind the wheel!!

Just adding the the humor of the thread:)

btk

graciegirl 02-08-2012 06:05 AM

No one is going to take our golf carts!
 
The length of this thread so quickly, the number of posts, the intensity of the responses, shows how much we LOVE driving around in golf carts.

You Dickens Posh...doing this to push our buttons. Well it worked!!!

Gerald 02-08-2012 06:05 AM

Lets think about this, cars go speeds always upto and over the speed limit and weight tons. Golf carts go about 20mph and weight is much less. Now this may be just a thought but which one do you think would create the most damage. If a ban should ever be needed it would be on cars in the villages.


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